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Old 27th November 2006, 06:12 AM   #1
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Question Is RME Total Mix better than Cubase/Logic Mixer?

I've been researching on the net for my new FW interface, and now I'm leaning towards RME FF400 'cause it seems to be the most reliable device on both platforms (mac&win).

I want to know if the 42bit resolution of Total Mix will give me better sounding mix than Cubase/Logic's 32bit floating point mixer.

Has anyone actually mixed the same song using both your DAW's mixer and the Total Mix?

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Old 27th November 2006, 11:51 AM   #2
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I've been researching on the net for my new FW interface, and now I'm leaning towards RME FF400 'cause it seems to be the most reliable device on both platforms (mac&win).

I want to know if the 42bit resolution of Total Mix will give me better sounding mix than Cubase/Logic's 32bit floating point mixer.

Has anyone actually mixed the same song using both your DAW's mixer and the Total Mix?

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I do the comparison everyday, and I prefer the Total mix to the cubase one.

It is just my personal opinion..

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Old 28th November 2006, 07:12 AM   #3
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thanks everyday,

Very interesting.
I should get it and try it myself.
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Old 28th November 2006, 08:26 AM   #4
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I wouldn't recomment buying an interface with Total MIX for the reasons you are using to make your decision.

The difference will negligible or minimal at best.

Total MIx's strength lies in other areas, namely routing and latency free monitoring.
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I wouldn't recomment buying an interface with Total MIX for the reasons you are using to make your decision.

The difference will negligible or minimal at best.

Total MIx's strength lies in other areas, namely routing and latency free monitoring.
Yeah right. Just out of curiosity.
But the reason why I'm getting FF400 is mainly the sound quality, reliability and stability.

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Old 28th November 2006, 09:22 PM   #6
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Yeah right. Just out of curiosity.
But the reason why I'm getting FF400 is mainly the sound quality, reliability and stability.

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Well then, in that case get it.

The DA and AD on the fireface is great for the money and the stability is second to none. Total mix is the icing on top.
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I wouldn't recomment buying an interface with Total MIX for the reasons you are using to make your decision.

The difference will negligible or minimal at best.

Total MIx's strength lies in other areas, namely routing and latency free monitoring.
Near-latency free.

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Old 28th November 2006, 10:02 PM   #8
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Near-latency free.

Define "near".

Total Mix input switching is ZERO latency because it directs the input of the sound card directly to the output in the hardware, allowing you to hear the input at the playback channel in real time.

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Define "near".
It's 'near', because the signal travels via the A/D converter thru Totalmix thru the D/A converters, complete zero latency can only be achieved via an analog routing.

Converters always have some latency while they convert analog into digital. (this is the same for every offering on the market, Lynx, Motu, Apogee)

Still the delay is unavoidable and is too small to bother most people, furthermore it's advantage is that it doesn't change no matter how your buffersettings in the software are set.
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It's 'near', because the signal travels via the A/D converter thru Totalmix thru the D/A converters, complete zero latency can only be achieved via an analog routing.

Converters always have some latency while they convert analog into digital. (this is the same for every offering on the market, Lynx, Motu, Apogee)

Still the delay is unavoidable and is too small to bother most people, furthermore it's advantage is that it doesn't change no matter how your buffersettings in the software are set.
Is it any better than ASIO direct monitoring supoorted by most audio interfaces?
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Old 29th November 2006, 05:06 AM   #11
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Near-latency free.

Hey if the latency is so insanely small that no singer in the world can hear it then I will call it latency free
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Maybe your singer can't hear it, but have your drummer play through an analog monitor mix (no latency) and something like TotalMix (~3ms latency), and he may well notice it. He'll accept it, but he may notice it.
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