a new direction for reaper...video integration with audio multitracking/midi.

[manning1]

the sound for video/film folks might like to be aware of this.
its in the beginnings....but the latest release of reaper now includes initial video integration.(new releases of this product practically occur every few days...)
thus opening up the idea...strategically of ONE inexpensive application that does audio multitracking, audio effects and video and midi.
bear in mind this is the beginning of a new direction.
i'm just a user.......on the audio side and songwriting, ...but many reaper
users have been pushing for video integration to simplify their work procedure.
the applications are obvious.
1..sound effects and foley for film/video.
2..music for film/video.
thus eliminating the need to sync to external video devices from a pc for example.
now i'm sure in this beginning phase it wont fulfill certain advanced requirements.
but this app has a history of rapid development....so i just suggest this interesting development be monitored as to meeting each interested persons needs.
no flames please.....its just a heads up...i'm just a happy user of the product
(cockos.com for more info/user forums/demo etc)

[statikcat]

fyi.. every other daw does that and most for many years. It is cool that Reaper is adding it though.

[manning1]

cat....
yes there are a lot of products out there. at a price of course.
at this price point ive never seen anything that does what this one does tho.
already this app imho is a leading contender. within the year i expect it to be the app chosen by lots of folks when they comparison shop. due to the swift pace of development. which floors me frankly.
other apps one has to wait ages often for new releases.
this one.....users request something and bam...its there in short order.

[captain54]

It's got the same look and feel of Sonar and Acid Pro....It lacks the simplicity of Logic when it comes to arming and recording a soft synth.....but hey, it's a fraction of the cost...not bad for a cheap app

it did, however completely take over some menus in my other apps...when I open Cubase now I have 64 channels of Reaper via Rewire now floating around all my menus....

[olzzon]

Originally Posted by captain54

It's got the same look and feel of Sonar and Acid Pro....It lacks the simplicity of Logic when it comes to arming and recording a soft synth.....but hey, it's a fraction of the cost...not bad for a cheap app

it did, however completely take over some menus in my other apps...when I open Cubase now I have 64 channels of Reaper via Rewire now floating around all my menus....

it´s the same as with other programs that can run as rewire slaves.

But you can select whether reaper should install rewire if you dislike this behaveior.
I´m not sure i agree with you with the auto arming, but hey i´m mostly an audio guy, so i do prefer it this way, which is the same as PT.

BTW. don´t let the price fool you.

[manning1]

captain...
olzzon is correct 100 per cent.
as far as i understand it the rewire capability was sought by a lot of reaper users.
useing also other applications. in conjunction with reaper.
who wanted the flexibility.
its not trying to take over ....its just an optional usefull feature for those that need it. if you dont need it you dont use it.
if i remember it can be disabled when you install reaper originally.
as can other options if you dont need them.
just uncheck the items you dont need during the reaper install. this is what i did,
as i dont need certain features. i dont use rewire for example.
by the way cap did you check out the brilliant routing ??
and the plug in suite built in ?? as well as stillwells ??
theres some great features in the plug ins that come with the product. without necessarily spending big on added plug ins.

[captain54]

I checked out quite a bit of the features but quite frankly didn't see that it was all that much far and above what I normally use....it could be that I don't know that much about it..I really don't find that I have a lot of extra time to devote to exploring a new app...

in this day and age with all the options out there, an app would have to serve me martinis in a bikini in order for me to take time to switch over to using it full time...

you've got Sonar, Samplitude, Cubase/Nuendo, Logic, DP, Tracktion, PT, Acid, and probably another half dozen that I left out...the fact that it's cheap is not a major selling point for me...

[manning1]

cap....
i'll be brief..i got flu/ill gotta see docky......well i like rum n coke on the odd occasion. we agree on one thing....bikinis...lol. (one piece ??)

reapers got a lot of feature depth not sometimes apparent initially.
youll see a lot on the forums from someone....such statements as "jeesh i didnt know it could do that". or i tried it 2 months ago........man has it changed in 2 months.
pipeline has put out a series of nice videos on useage also.
it depends on your needs of course.
what do you use currently cap ?? out of interest ??
me personally i think its superb.

[captain54]

Originally Posted by manning1

cap....

what do you use currently cap ?? out of interest ??

Hope yu can kik yer flu...no fun

One piece bikini's...hell yeah


Logic 7 on the Mac
Cubase sx3/Acid 6 on the PC

Reaper did seem a little less CPU intensive than all of the above, which is a very good thing, especially since I had it running on a spare older (700mhz) laptop

[h2000]

Originally Posted by captain54

Reaper did seem a little less CPU intensive than all of the above, which is a very good thing, especially since I had it running on a spare older (700mhz) laptop

Wish I could say the same here...Reaper is 30-50% more CPU intensive than Vegas just in track streaming alone (no plugs). I've tried every setting and combination of buffering, and I've been through this several times on the Reaper forums. But, it's just not possible for me to use it on my systems (Athlon 2400+, Celeron 1.6)

Oh well.

[manning1]

cap....
feeling a tad better.
i think cos you got me thinking bout one pieces....lol.
(on that we agree.....lol.)

h2000,
normally for daw work i dont recommend celerons.
i like amd semprons/64's/duals and the new intel core duo processors.
normally for basic desktop daw work i recommend 1 gig ram, plus two hard drives 7200 rpm for desktops ....the fatter the cache the better....i prefer 16 mb cache.
drives are dirt cheap.
i tried rpr on an ath also worked well.
have you the latest rpr version ??,,,,cos i believe the devs updated the performance.
maybe its something machine specific.
list your specs n i'll see if theres anything obvious.

[h2000]

Manning: thanks for asking, but I'm not having any DAW issues. I've been running my Athlon +2400 machine for about three years. It is doing me fine and I do mixes of sometimes 40-50 tracks in Vegas with a UAD-1. The Celeron is just my old laptop which I used as secondary test for Reaper. BTW it also works great with Vegas.

When I tested Reaper, I took a Vegas project I was working on and saved as an EDL. Then I opened it and played it in Reaper to test it, and did the same in Vegas. Reaper used 30-50% more CPU to play the project. I know I've heard many people have the opposite effect, but I can only tell you what happens here, and on two different machines. My latest test was with v 1.32.

BTW, I've been following and trying Reaper since very early in the development (March). I've brought this up to Justin, Pipeline, and the forum and came up blank. I'd love to give Reaper a real run, but until I get a more powerful machine it ain't gonna happen.

[manning1]

h2k....
on performance.....maybe its cos u went the edl export route.
i dont know.
did you find the same when doing original tracks in rpr ??
without going thru the edl route ??
for me...ive had no issues. but i dont use edl convert.
i notice version 1.41 has just been released.

anyway all best.

[h2000]

Manning: I thought it could be project specigic, but then I tried a couple different projects and it was not. The edl thing is not any kind of converted format, because rpr opens the Vegas edl format. To make the test equal I opened the same Vegas edl file in both Vegas and rpr.
Anyway, I'll keep trying the newer versions and eventually I'll have to get a new machine and it will be a non-issue.