SSL Waves Plugs

jredrecording · 14th November 2006, 08:56 AM

just wondering if i could get some feedback and opinions, it may have been discussed in here and if so, sorry all. but in any case, ive heard good and bad thing, and i trust in the slutz. so...whaddaya all think of them?

thanks

J

3rd world order · 14th November 2006, 09:02 AM

love the E-channel.. which has become essential to my mixing... even if it doesnt sound as good as the real thing the UI is amazing...

the other 2 i use but wouldn't live or die by...

swan · 14th November 2006, 01:40 PM

The e-channel is amazing just for its convenience, good thing it sounds great too!

RusRant · 14th November 2006, 03:49 PM

Definitly worth having. Great sound and flexibility.

studio freak · 14th November 2006, 05:09 PM

I have the plugins, I use them every day !!!
I really dont care if they sound close to the real stuff, if they sound good, if they can help your mixes in some way, thats what really matters to me.
I use URS eq also, very good plugins but waves ssl are really more punchy to my ears ( dont use so much of the G series Eq. I find the E-channel Eq. to be more musical ) .

I also find the ssl master compressor a little hard to master, but maybe it´s just me...?!

KrisNY · 15th November 2006, 07:50 PM

I like them a lot.

They're definitely the SSL sound, though - too harsh for some applications.

chadly · 15th November 2006, 07:54 PM

+1 for the Waves, though this it's a no-comparison comparison. I've not ran it against Duende.

I use all 3 quite a bit.

I actually really like the G eq, too. And the bus comp is pretty awesome.

Just my $.02. There are other great plugs out there too, but the Waves SSL really turned out to be a great bundle for me.

day-go · 15th November 2006, 08:00 PM

i love them--i'd go so far as to say the channel has the best sounding software eqs i've heard (sounds much better than urs to my ears). i particularly like them on drum overheads and bass guitar.

Arsene · 15th November 2006, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by day-go

i love them--i'd go so far as to say the channel has the best sounding software eqs i've heard (sounds much better than urs to my ears). i particularly like them on drum overheads and bass guitar.

I'll second that. Don't know if they even come close to a real SSL but I don't really care; that eq is just so nice - probably the most valuable addition to my arsenal!

taturana · 16th November 2006, 12:17 PM

definitely cool... can't mix anything without them nowadays....

Sirocco · 17th November 2006, 01:06 AM

the compressor is definitly hard to grasp if your using it for the first time

electraplay · 17th November 2006, 02:25 AM

sorry all, i posted another thread without looking here first.....im struggling with the master comp. what makes it so hard???

3rd world order · 18th November 2006, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electraplay

sorry all, i posted another thread without looking here first.....im struggling with the master comp. what makes it so hard???

the bus comp is hard?

I pretty much do the same thing with it as i'd do with a smart C2.. 4:1, 10ms, auto

knock off a few dB and fuggidaboutit

raal · 18th November 2006, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jredrecording

just wondering if i could get some feedback and opinions, it may have been discussed in here and if so, sorry all. but in any case, ive heard good and bad thing, and i trust in the slutz. so...whaddaya all think of them?

thanks

J

this has been discussed greatly. a search will give you alot of info.

2¢: the convenience of the E channel is great - everything on one plug. i wish they had the same for the G channel, which i prefer for alot of things. can't figure out why they didn't either make a dynamics section that you could use as a separate plug, or a G channel with dynamics on it like they did with the E.

imo the buss comp is very usable but it's not my FX384.

raal · 18th November 2006, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electraplay

sorry all, i posted another thread without looking here first.....im struggling with the master comp. what makes it so hard???

hint. try some of the presets so you can see what it's doing and how. can't remember what they're called but they're pretty self explanatory.

Rev. Robb · 18th November 2006, 07:01 PM

Two words of advice... Get them!! Worth every penny.

paddo · 19th November 2006, 03:40 PM

They do have the ssl sound and they are efficient plugs, they do however have one drawback.
Waves in there infinite wisdom do not support sidechaining in audio units only TDM.
This limits the use of the bus compressor as a master compressor/limiter.
That said they are very good in every other aspect.Go get em

Paddo

Protools Guy · 20th November 2006, 01:27 AM

Excellent bundle. Use 'em every day.

bentley · 20th November 2006, 01:53 AM

I'll give 'em another thumbs up.

While I'm not a huge Waves fan, these definitely work well for me.

zboy2854 · 20th November 2006, 01:59 AM

Same here. E channel is my first choice go-to plug for most things these days...

taturana · 20th November 2006, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by day-go

i love them--i'd go so far as to say the channel has the best sounding software eqs i've heard (sounds much better than urs to my ears). i particularly like them on drum overheads and bass guitar.

E-channel on bass guitar... good use... very funky... punchy sound...

all the other comps seem to mush it up....
sometimes you need to couple it with a warmer comp or eq....

bass drums snares toms . awesome...

g bus comp on overheads, drum busses in general...

other sounds maybe need warmer plugins... like urs, psp, nomad, uad,et....

stealthbalance · 20th November 2006, 07:18 AM

just wondering ..... does the e channel plug have auto make-up gain as the real desk channel compressor does?

thanks
s

raal · 20th November 2006, 07:25 AM

the stereo buss comp does. neither plug or hardware E channels have auto release.

taturana · 20th November 2006, 07:34 AM

i think none have auto makeup gain... g comp has auto release as said above....

SUPADUPA · 20th November 2006, 10:02 AM

yip .... get them ... best yet ...

d3man · 20th November 2006, 01:34 PM

Hmmmm...

I must admit that I didn't got desired results from that package. Maybe it needs more tweaking than other VST plug ins which I used - Waves R-Comp and IK Multimedia T-Racks....

****

I dropped Waves SSL from my work, but your good words about them will force me to learn them better!

Poplab Studios · 20th November 2006, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d3man

Hmmmm...

I must admit that I didn't got desired results from that package. Maybe it needs more tweaking than other VST plug ins which I used - Waves R-Comp and IK Multimedia T-Racks....

****

I dropped Waves SSL from my work, but your good words about them will force me to learn them better!

d3man,

give them a try, and take a little time to test them on some different instruments. i think the ssl plugs are def. worth the price!
for me the Comp is great on the master bus!it glues things together and it makes a nice punch!

cheers

zboy2854 · 20th November 2006, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthbalance

just wondering ..... does the e channel plug have auto make-up gain as the real desk channel compressor does?

thanks
s

Yes, the E channel plug has auto makeup gain in the compression section just like the desk. From Waves' site:

The dynamics section features a soft-knee compressor/limiter and an expander/gate modeled on the SSL LS611E. Like the original, it can be placed before or after the equalization section, and makeup gain is automatically applied to maintain a steady output level. The compressor’s adjustable attack lets you choose between the default auto-sensing function which responds to your source material or a fixed 1 ms. attack time.

raal · 20th November 2006, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zboy2854

Yes, the E channel plug has auto makeup gain in the compression section just like the desk. From Waves' site:

The dynamics section features a soft-knee compressor/limiter and an expander/gate modeled on the SSL LS611E. Like the original, it can be placed before or after the equalization section, and makeup gain is automatically applied to maintain a steady output level. The compressor’s adjustable attack lets you choose between the default auto-sensing function which responds to your source material or a fixed 1 ms. attack time.

oops. i thought he was referring to auto-release. sorry.

nadine · 21st November 2006, 01:08 PM

so , as someone interested in this product, and someone that using almost compressors on everything, and hearing a lot on the e-channel , the dynamics section of it , its good? does the job pretty good ? , won´t need the compressors im using ?
so im taking the other EQ is more directionated for mastering work? or work pretty good for tracks too?
thanks.

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14th November 2006, 08:56 AM	#1
jredrecording Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sherman Oaks, California Posts: 18	SSL Waves Plugs just wondering if i could get some feedback and opinions, it may have been discussed in here and if so, sorry all. but in any case, ive heard good and bad thing, and i trust in the slutz. so...whaddaya all think of them? thanks J

14th November 2006, 09:02 AM	#2
3rd world order Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ann arbor, michigan Posts: 1,949	love the E-channel.. which has become essential to my mixing... even if it doesnt sound as good as the real thing the UI is amazing... the other 2 i use but wouldn't live or die by... __________________ 3WO - Mixing Without Tears "Tape is a mangler.." -- Slipperman // "The idea of the perfect album is this amorphous thing we're always aiming at. For us, it can mean something full of imperfection. Part of our aim has always been to destroy the sound in a beautiful way. It doesn't mean we expect everyone would like it. I'm not sure we will ever get there... but the whole point of making music is at least to aim at your own idea of perfection." -- Boards of Canada

15th November 2006, 07:54 PM	#7
chadly Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Midwest Posts: 492	+1 for the Waves, though this it's a no-comparison comparison. I've not ran it against Duende. I use all 3 quite a bit. I actually really like the G eq, too. And the bus comp is pretty awesome. Just my $.02. There are other great plugs out there too, but the Waves SSL really turned out to be a great bundle for me. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- Chad Jacobsen Check out my blog at: www.cheshireomnimedia.com/blog/

17th November 2006, 01:06 AM	#11
Sirocco Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,641	the compressor is definitly hard to grasp if your using it for the first time __________________ Drum Sounds Used On Billboard Hits, Countless Tracks, & By Top Producers

14th November 2006, 01:40 PM	#3
swan Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 59	The e-channel is amazing just for its convenience, good thing it sounds great too!

14th November 2006, 03:49 PM	#4
RusRant Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B'ham, AL Posts: 583	Definitly worth having. Great sound and flexibility.

14th November 2006, 05:09 PM	#5
studio freak Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 120	I have the plugins, I use them every day !!! I really dont care if they sound close to the real stuff, if they sound good, if they can help your mixes in some way, thats what really matters to me. I use URS eq also, very good plugins but waves ssl are really more punchy to my ears ( dont use so much of the G series Eq. I find the E-channel Eq. to be more musical ) . I also find the ssl master compressor a little hard to master, but maybe it´s just me...?!

15th November 2006, 07:50 PM	#6
KrisNY Gear addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Suburban NYC Posts: 425	I like them a lot. They're definitely the SSL sound, though - too harsh for some applications.

15th November 2006, 08:00 PM	#8
day-go Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: kansas city Posts: 1,611	i love them--i'd go so far as to say the channel has the best sounding software eqs i've heard (sounds much better than urs to my ears). i particularly like them on drum overheads and bass guitar.

16th November 2006, 12:17 PM	#10
taturana Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,631	definitely cool... can't mix anything without them nowadays....

17th November 2006, 02:25 AM	#12
electraplay Gear Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 41	hard to master sorry all, i posted another thread without looking here first.....im struggling with the master comp. what makes it so hard???

18th November 2006, 07:01 PM	#16
Rev. Robb Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 406	Two words of advice... Get them!! Worth every penny. __________________ Respectfully, Robb

19th November 2006, 03:40 PM	#17
paddo Gear Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 39	ssl They do have the ssl sound and they are efficient plugs, they do however have one drawback. Waves in there infinite wisdom do not support sidechaining in audio units only TDM. This limits the use of the bus compressor as a master compressor/limiter. That said they are very good in every other aspect.Go get em Paddo

20th November 2006, 01:27 AM	#18
Protools Guy Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 1,032	Excellent bundle. Use 'em every day. __________________ I only need one more piece of gear...

20th November 2006, 01:53 AM	#19
bentley Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 108	I'll give 'em another thumbs up. While I'm not a huge Waves fan, these definitely work well for me.

20th November 2006, 01:59 AM	#20
zboy2854 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 5,077	Same here. E channel is my first choice go-to plug for most things these days... __________________ "Let me control the money, and I care not who makes the laws" -Mayer Rothschild "Any chairman of the Federal Reserve, is more powerful than even our president." -Ron Paul

20th November 2006, 07:18 AM	#22
stealthbalance Lives for gear Join Date: May 2003 Location: united states Posts: 625	just wondering ..... does the e channel plug have auto make-up gain as the real desk channel compressor does? thanks s

20th November 2006, 07:25 AM	#23
raal Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: mexico Posts: 3,685	the stereo buss comp does. neither plug or hardware E channels have auto release.

20th November 2006, 07:34 AM	#24
taturana Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,631	i think none have auto makeup gain... g comp has auto release as said above....

20th November 2006, 10:02 AM	#25
SUPADUPA Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 256	yip .... get them ... best yet ...

20th November 2006, 01:34 PM	#26
d3man Gear Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Zagreb Croatia Posts: 38	Hmmmm... I must admit that I didn't got desired results from that package. Maybe it needs more tweaking than other VST plug ins which I used - Waves R-Comp and IK Multimedia T-Racks.... **** I dropped Waves SSL from my work, but your good words about them will force me to learn them better!

21st November 2006, 01:08 PM	#30
nadine Gear interested Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1	so , as someone interested in this product, and someone that using almost compressors on everything, and hearing a lot on the e-channel , the dynamics section of it , its good? does the job pretty good ? , won´t need the compressors im using ? so im taking the other EQ is more directionated for mastering work? or work pretty good for tracks too? thanks.

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