Ipod owners please read this!!!!!

eskay · 1st December 2003, 05:08 AM

If anybody has an older ipod click on the following link, and you won't be very happy. Thanks.

http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

Klaseed · 1st December 2003, 07:12 AM

Just go here http://www.ipodbattery.com/, get a new battery and replace it. The old iPods are easy to take apart, and as long as you're not completely clueless, it's nothing to take the old battery out and put a new one in. Plus you get to look inside your iPod and marvel at the tiny hard drive.

I'm gonna email those guys and tell 'em not to be so lazy and do a little research before posting stuff on the web.

eskay · 1st December 2003, 07:23 AM

I don't think it's a matter of laziness, it's a matter of Apple not really giving a shit about their customers. If it doesn't cost much for somebody who is computer savy to change the battery, then how about the average person who is clueless? What are they supposed to do? Everybody who is on Gearslutz pretty much knows how to change drive's batteries, etc. You know we Apple heads, love to talk about what a great company Apple is and so forth, but you heard the tech support person say that it will cost them $255!!!!What kind of tech support is this shit!!

If Microsoft would have done this we would be on their ass faster than you can say Steve Jobs!! It's about Apple caring for their customers and those days are long gone. I'm pretty sure you remember the Dual Mirror G4's that were released that were louder than a vacuum cleaner!! If those cat's didn't set up the website www.G4noise.com, and raise some hell, Apple would have never swapped out the power supplies on those computers. I think you should hold off on your e-mail, and check Apple's track record on quality control the last year or so...it's not so great!

Paul Turpin · 1st December 2003, 07:42 AM

Yeah well - the info is still out of date. Apple has changed their whole ipod battery program. Not only will they now replacement them OUT of warranty for $99 - but its completely covered under applecare for $59. The original story does not reflect the current reality.

eskay · 1st December 2003, 08:03 AM

I guess $60 is O.K, not $100!!! I always get Applecare, for every Apple product that I buy. I worked as Apple repair technician for about 8 months, and I saw too many horror stories to ever get an Apple product without any warranty!! The information is not dated either. It has been in the last 2 months that Apple changed their policy regarding the iPods battery!! Just call up your local Mac repair shops and find out when this was changed and you will know I'm not wrong. I've been using Mac's for way too long, and I can tell you first hand, that quality control is going out the window!!! But at the end of the day, I still put up with it, cause I use my Mac every day so I can compose music.

Etnier · 1st December 2003, 03:25 PM

It's worth noting that the AppleCare program adds only a year to the original warranty.

This is the first I've heard of the $99 battery replacement cost. Can anyone confirm, or post links that verify this. I've got (actually my daughters own) a pair that I've got to decide on AppleCare for very soon.

Duardo · 1st December 2003, 03:49 PM

Quote:

The information is not dated either. It has been in the last 2 months that Apple changed their policy regarding the iPods battery!!

If it happened in the last two months...even if it happened at all, and the website doesn't reflect that...doesn't that mean it's out of date?

-Duardo

Bob Olhsson · 1st December 2003, 04:29 PM

Quality control is going out the window?

Apple hardware has always been terrible, beautifully-packaged bleeding-edge technology implemented in the cheapest possible way to build with no attention paid at all to reliability or repair-ability. Mac IIs were a sea of cold solder joints that made an MCI look like a Neve. Apple is also notorious for "recycling" hardware which means you are frequently buying "b-stock" sub-assemblies as part of "new" computers. Everybody I know who has been using Apples for more than a couple years has plenty of personal horror stories about Apple's hardware.

Those of us in music have bought Macs in spite of Apple, never because of Apple. And everything bad you've read about Microsoft is true too so don't anybody think I have a warm place in my heart for them.

Etnier · 1st December 2003, 06:38 PM

In Apple's defense (reluctantly), I don't believe there's anything unusual about recycling used/remanufactured parts as a function of factory service. And the Macs built in the late 90's were brick@#$*houses IMHO: I currently own a 533DP, a Digital Video iMac and a 15" flatscreen iMac. Only the latter has been any trouble.

faeflora · 1st December 2003, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Turpin
Yeah well - the info is still out of date. Apple has changed their whole ipod battery program. Not only will they now replacement them OUT of warranty for $99 - but its completely covered under applecare for $59. The original story does not reflect the current reality.

Why the hell should you have to pay for their bad design??? They should give em for free!

fifthcircle · 2nd December 2003, 04:40 AM

Apple

As my dual G4 has been sitting in the shop for 2.5 weeks because the f-in mobo died on it. Damn thing is under a year old- oh yeah, the screen and the power button have also died on it.

Piece of shit.

--Ben

tradershort · 3rd December 2003, 11:45 AM

Hmmm....Anybody got an opinion about reliability comparison between the G4 Pwr Books and the G4 Towers? I currently own a 1yr old 667 G4 Pwr Book. I need more processing and am thinking of upgrading. I'm looking at getting a new G4 Tower but after reading some of these posts I'm wary. Should I get a faster TiBook instead? Are they built any better than the towers or is it a wash?

I haven't had any issues w/my TiBook apart from the burner not liking certain CD brands.

Any guidance is much appreciated.

Damon

Bob Olhsson · 3rd December 2003, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Etnier
In Apple's defense (reluctantly), I don't believe there's anything unusual about recycling used/remanufactured parts as a function of factory service. ..

I'm not talking about factory service, I'm talking about "brand new" Macs that turn out to not be entirely brand new.

Etnier · 3rd December 2003, 07:27 PM

Sorry- you're right. I misread.

bjornson · 8th December 2003, 11:14 PM

Not to stand up and soap box for Apple, But FWIW, heres my list.
Desktops
Mac 512,
Mac plus
Mac se 30
Mac II
Mac fx
Quadra 700
Quadra 900
8100
9600
power comp 250 x3 (Don't really count)
mac 9600
biege G3
Blue and white G3
dual gig G4
G5
Laptops,
1400
5400c
Lombard G3
New 17"g4.
All these machines work,
and NOT ONE has EVER had to be repaired...
Maybe I need to buy some lottery tickets.

jeronimo · 15th December 2003, 04:15 PM

Dual G4 533 bought used - never had any problem.
G4 400 bought new... never had any problem.
PB G3 233 - bought new and never had any problem.
PB 500 FW - had a problem while replacing the PRAM battery, but was the tech's fault...
G3 450 B/W - bought new and never had any problem.
8500 and 9600 never had any problems.

--- I just tried a few lottery tickes... but no luck..... :(

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eskay Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 288	Ipod owners please read this!!!!! If anybody has an older ipod click on the following link, and you won't be very happy. Thanks. http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

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1st December 2003, 07:42 AM	#4
Paul Turpin Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Posts: 322	Yeah well - the info is still out of date. Apple has changed their whole ipod battery program. Not only will they now replacement them OUT of warranty for $99 - but its completely covered under applecare for $59. The original story does not reflect the current reality. __________________ Paul Turpin Bayside Digital Services bayside web page Clickpop Records clickpop web page

1st December 2003, 03:25 PM	#6
Etnier Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cape Elizabeth ME USA Posts: 303	It's worth noting that the AppleCare program adds only a year to the original warranty. This is the first I've heard of the $99 battery replacement cost. Can anyone confirm, or post links that verify this. I've got (actually my daughters own) a pair that I've got to decide on AppleCare for very soon. __________________ John Etnier Studio Dual

1st December 2003, 07:23 AM	#3
eskay Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 288	I don't think it's a matter of laziness, it's a matter of Apple not really giving a shit about their customers. If it doesn't cost much for somebody who is computer savy to change the battery, then how about the average person who is clueless? What are they supposed to do? Everybody who is on Gearslutz pretty much knows how to change drive's batteries, etc. You know we Apple heads, love to talk about what a great company Apple is and so forth, but you heard the tech support person say that it will cost them $255!!!!What kind of tech support is this shit!! If Microsoft would have done this we would be on their ass faster than you can say Steve Jobs!! It's about Apple caring for their customers and those days are long gone. I'm pretty sure you remember the Dual Mirror G4's that were released that were louder than a vacuum cleaner!! If those cat's didn't set up the website www.G4noise.com, and raise some hell, Apple would have never swapped out the power supplies on those computers. I think you should hold off on your e-mail, and check Apple's track record on quality control the last year or so...it's not so great!

1st December 2003, 08:03 AM	#5
eskay Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 288	I guess $60 is O.K, not $100!!! I always get Applecare, for every Apple product that I buy. I worked as Apple repair technician for about 8 months, and I saw too many horror stories to ever get an Apple product without any warranty!! The information is not dated either. It has been in the last 2 months that Apple changed their policy regarding the iPods battery!! Just call up your local Mac repair shops and find out when this was changed and you will know I'm not wrong. I've been using Mac's for way too long, and I can tell you first hand, that quality control is going out the window!!! But at the end of the day, I still put up with it, cause I use my Mac every day so I can compose music.

1st December 2003, 04:29 PM	#8
Bob Olhsson Motown legend Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Songwriter Gulch, Nashville TN Posts: 5,271	Quality control is going out the window? Apple hardware has always been terrible, beautifully-packaged bleeding-edge technology implemented in the cheapest possible way to build with no attention paid at all to reliability or repair-ability. Mac IIs were a sea of cold solder joints that made an MCI look like a Neve. Apple is also notorious for "recycling" hardware which means you are frequently buying "b-stock" sub-assemblies as part of "new" computers. Everybody I know who has been using Apples for more than a couple years has plenty of personal horror stories about Apple's hardware. Those of us in music have bought Macs in spite of Apple, never because of Apple. And everything bad you've read about Microsoft is true too so don't anybody think I have a warm place in my heart for them. __________________ Georgetown Masters 615 254-3233 Bob's room 615 385-8051 Music Industry 2.0

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Etnier Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cape Elizabeth ME USA Posts: 303	In Apple's defense (reluctantly), I don't believe there's anything unusual about recycling used/remanufactured parts as a function of factory service. And the Macs built in the late 90's were brick@#$houses IMHO: I currently own a 533DP, a Digital Video iMac and a 15" flatscreen iMac. Only the latter has been any trouble. __________________ John Etnier Studio Dual*

2nd December 2003, 04:40 AM	#11
fifthcircle Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,304	Apple As my dual G4 has been sitting in the shop for 2.5 weeks because the f-in mobo died on it. Damn thing is under a year old- oh yeah, the screen and the power button have also died on it. Piece of shit. --Ben __________________ Benjamin Maas Fifth Circle Audio Long Beach, CA http://www.fifthcircle.com

3rd December 2003, 11:45 AM	#12
tradershort Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 86	Hmmm....Anybody got an opinion about reliability comparison between the G4 Pwr Books and the G4 Towers? I currently own a 1yr old 667 G4 Pwr Book. I need more processing and am thinking of upgrading. I'm looking at getting a new G4 Tower but after reading some of these posts I'm wary. Should I get a faster TiBook instead? Are they built any better than the towers or is it a wash? I haven't had any issues w/my TiBook apart from the burner not liking certain CD brands. Any guidance is much appreciated. Damon

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jeronimo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Salvador, BA - Brazil Posts: 2,535	Dual G4 533 bought used - never had any problem. G4 400 bought new... never had any problem. PB G3 233 - bought new and never had any problem. PB 500 FW - had a problem while replacing the PRAM battery, but was the tech's fault... G3 450 B/W - bought new and never had any problem. 8500 and 9600 never had any problems. --- I just tried a few lottery tickes... but no luck..... :( __________________ Think Diferente! www.verticeestudio.com http://www.myspace.com/jelmet

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