LOGIC + PT question

5down1up · 17th October 2006, 12:02 PM

Just a short Q for the logic + tdm mix users.

I need to compensate some tracks when using outboard inserts.
In PT we have the holy features just switching to sample mode and move the files by the desired amount.
71 samples is the value i need to figure out in logic land.

how are you guys doing it ?

**DrDeltaM** · 17th October 2006, 12:35 PM

Use Expert Sleepers Latency Fixer plugin (free!): http://www.expertsleepers.co.uk/

It simply reports a set latency number to the host software (who will compensate), without having an actual latency itself. Hence: compensating for that I/O loop.

I use it in Logic all the time with outboard inserts, works great

5down1up · 17th October 2006, 12:47 PM

my rocking brother from belgium knows all the answers

i will try it ... but in fact of its AU i guess it wont help me on the TDM channels.
i know the 71 samples are around ~1.6 ms but i have no idea how to nudge a audio track in logic by that amount ?
and i cant find how to switch the timescale to samples.

**DrDeltaM** · 17th October 2006, 12:58 PM

Other option: Every region has a delay parameter (positive or negative). Standard, this is in midi-ticks, but you can switch it to millisec in the View menu in Arrange window.

The value still is related to midi-ticks tho. So if you want a finer resolution, you've to set a higher tempo.

Jens · 17th October 2006, 01:37 PM

If you double click the audio file/region you hopefully end up in the sample editor...There you can select samples in the view window..

/Jens

**DrDeltaM** · 17th October 2006, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens

If you double click the audio file/region you hopefully end up in the sample editor...There you can select samples in the view window..

/Jens

That's probably the easiest and best when the Latency Fixer plugin doesn't work

5down1up · 17th October 2006, 11:34 PM

thx @ D & Jens

I discovered the delay parameter setting already ... i need 2.61 ms ...
sadly you cant dial in for real the desired amount, just fixed numbers

( like D explained )

If i did get Jens idea right your advice is to shorten the regions by 71 samples and move it back to the original positions ?

Theres really no other way to move those regions 71 samples ?
Hard to believe ... but probably as Logic as it can be

Lemme try a lil to find a workable solution !!!

Every ideas welcome

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17th October 2006, 12:02 PM	#1
5down1up Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 1,373	LOGIC + PT question Just a short Q for the logic + tdm mix users. I need to compensate some tracks when using outboard inserts. In PT we have the holy features just switching to sample mode and move the files by the desired amount. 71 samples is the value i need to figure out in logic land. how are you guys doing it ? __________________ http://www.kaiportolano.com http://www.myspace.com/kaiportolano

17th October 2006, 12:35 PM	#2
DrDeltaM Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,623	Use Expert Sleepers Latency Fixer plugin (free!): http://www.expertsleepers.co.uk/ It simply reports a set latency number to the host software (who will compensate), without having an actual latency itself. Hence: compensating for that I/O loop. I use it in Logic all the time with outboard inserts, works great __________________ Mathijs Indesteege aka Mathew Lane mixing - mastering - audio restoration - plugins http://www.mathewlane.com DrMS. Focus on your stereo field. DrMS spatial processor RTAS/AU/VST plugin » Digital Audio Product Support Joystick Audio - Benelux High End Distributor http://www.joystick.be

17th October 2006, 12:47 PM	#3
5down1up Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 1,373	my rocking brother from belgium knows all the answers i will try it ... but in fact of its AU i guess it wont help me on the TDM channels. i know the 71 samples are around ~1.6 ms but i have no idea how to nudge a audio track in logic by that amount ? and i cant find how to switch the timescale to samples. __________________ http://www.kaiportolano.com http://www.myspace.com/kaiportolano

17th October 2006, 12:58 PM	#4
DrDeltaM Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,623	Other option: Every region has a delay parameter (positive or negative). Standard, this is in midi-ticks, but you can switch it to millisec in the View menu in Arrange window. The value still is related to midi-ticks tho. So if you want a finer resolution, you've to set a higher tempo. __________________ Mathijs Indesteege aka Mathew Lane mixing - mastering - audio restoration - plugins http://www.mathewlane.com DrMS. Focus on your stereo field. DrMS spatial processor RTAS/AU/VST plugin » Digital Audio Product Support Joystick Audio - Benelux High End Distributor http://www.joystick.be

17th October 2006, 01:37 PM	#5
Jens Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 279	If you double click the audio file/region you hopefully end up in the sample editor...There you can select samples in the view window.. /Jens

17th October 2006, 11:34 PM	#7
5down1up Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 1,373	thx @ D & Jens I discovered the delay parameter setting already ... i need 2.61 ms ... sadly you cant dial in for real the desired amount, just fixed numbers ( like D explained ) If i did get Jens idea right your advice is to shorten the regions by 71 samples and move it back to the original positions ? Theres really no other way to move those regions 71 samples ? Hard to believe ... but probably as Logic as it can be Lemme try a lil to find a workable solution !!! Every ideas welcome __________________ http://www.kaiportolano.com http://www.myspace.com/kaiportolano

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