Logic 8 Wish List? - Page 2

Psyko/Acoustics · 1st October 2006, 03:00 PM

A few less "we're the best" users.

MINOR · 1st October 2006, 03:23 PM

Besides the things that have been already mentioned I'd like to see a more streamlined GUI, an easier to use environment, and and and.

But I think what we really get to see is total iLife integration and podcast publishing right out of Logic plus 2 additional DVD full of brand new apple loops and some more stunning presets.

brrrr.... -__-

edit: oh I forgot... probably a totally new package design with enhanced specs ( minimal requirements: Mac Pro 2.0 Ghz :) )

kosi · 1st October 2006, 04:06 PM

http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewforum.php?f=12

Poplab Studios · 1st October 2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosi

http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewforum.php?f=12

the feature beat detective, that was mentioned on logicprohelp, that would be nice!

cheers

DeBasement · 1st October 2006, 04:21 PM

Hm.

I'd like to see Apple give a crap about Logic users. Maybe even answer their emails or contribute to the forums once in a while...

Then I'd like to see multi-channel virtual instruments that work as easily as their MIDI counterparts... You should be able to control at least panning and volume of multi-channel plugins without needing custom environment objects and aux channels.

Group editing and multiple-take "playlist" functions. Drum recording on Logic 7 is a PITA.

I don't want complete Sound Diver editing, but at least MIDI instruments should be able to ask for the patch names.

And PDC for external instruments (like Cubase/Nuendo's PING feature)

Better tempo mapping, follow external tempo and film scoring tools.

No more plugins, dance music toys, or garage band loops. Fix the bugs.

That'll do for now.

Reptil · 1st October 2006, 04:41 PM

Sound diver (integrated into environment ??)
sample accurate edit in arrange
intuitive audio editing
fix the bugs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigbaby987

i also hate when i double click on matrix page by accident, every part shows up... i hate that!!

drives me mad sometimes.

also I need to look sometimes at a matrix window, without it following the cursor. this behaviour should be optional.

DeBasement · 1st October 2006, 04:49 PM

Oh yeah, forgot.

FIX THE ZOOMING.

When you zoom in to a region, it should stay centered on your screen.

When you select a cycle range and zoom out to get it all on screen, it should stay on screen. (currently it shifts all around the freakin' place).

And maybe some larger font sizes or mixer objects for those of us who work on high resolution screens at arms' length? (Okay, now I'm just being whiney).

joshelevator · 1st October 2006, 05:30 PM

don't know if its possible but if posiible-work to get sidechains going with third party plugins for native logic.

DaveC · 1st October 2006, 05:35 PM

PC-version, funny nobody mentioned that...

n8tron · 1st October 2006, 05:40 PM

also, a price cut would be nice. Everyone thinks logic is a good deal cause of everything you get with it, but the competition is catching up.

dp 5: $500
cubase 4: $800
sonar 6: $600 (though with their 6,000 versions I wouldn't know which is most comparable to logic)
live 6: $600

all these have good quality processing plugins and instruments. I highly doubt logic 8 will cost less but I can still hope.

overclock · 1st October 2006, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibbon

I for some stupid reason at times find it hard to get a region to snap exactly to the grid.

seriously now, why is that? drives me banannas.

- b

AnalogBob · 1st October 2006, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeBasement

Oh yeah, forgot.

FIX THE ZOOMING.

When you zoom in to a region, it should stay centered on your screen.

When you select a cycle range and zoom out to get it all on screen, it should stay on screen. (currently it shifts all around the freakin' place).

Fix the Zooming, Elastic Audio like Live. Virtual Analog Summing Buss? Make Logic 8 work on both Intel and PPC Mac's so people with fast G5's won't be forced to upgrade.

Ashermusic · 1st October 2006, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbaby987

i also hate when i double click on matrix page by accident, every part shows up... i hate that!!

Interesting. I love that, particularly in the Score Editor, but I do it intentionally not by accident.

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n8tron · 1st October 2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashermusic

Interesting. I love that, particularly in the Score Editor, but I do it intentionally not by accident.

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I like it too, however i wish it was a bit more elegant as far as added and subtracting parts. plus I also accidently dbl click on it often on accident as well.

quincyg · 1st October 2006, 07:29 PM

I would like all the bugs fixed first and foremost. I'm tired of session and template corruption. Tired of memory errors. Tired of instrument drop out.
Need the automation copying to be fixed so that is doesn't screw up the automation that follows. Stability is critical. I is hard to use this product professionally if you have to worry about a session just becoming unusable or parts dissapearing from you session or audio instruments dropping out. And please don't ask me for more info on these bugs as they are well documented on the sonikmatter or apple forums. differen't versions have certain things fixed, but ultimately introduce new bugs. I am hoping that they are recoding this thing from the ground up.

Once those bugs are fixed i would love more pro tools style audio functionality. If Logic 8 isn't more stable I'm afraid I will have to starting thinking about alternatives, again.
I did hear that take lists were in the works.

Bump Music · 1st October 2006, 09:31 PM

The copying of automation sucks.

musicjon · 1st October 2006, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbaby987

btw.. i would love to be able to edit or process one peice of audio inside logic like pro tools' audio suite instead of having to make every track a certain effect.. that's really annoying .. yes, i know logic has audio suite, but it's nothing like pro tools.. that would be super nice... super nice.. i do many types of editing that's nothing like sequencing, so being able to do that would make life a little bit better..

In 7.2 FX bypass can be automated. It's not destructive process per region, but at least it's a workaround better than setting up another track.

Matthew Murray · 1st October 2006, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibbon

I've gotta disagree with you man, and I hope that a few people here agree with me.

The last thing that we really need is yet more presets, samples, softsynth, etc...

Tibbon -- er, I think (and this is just my best guess) that MINOR was cracking a joke. He was sarcastically implying that what we need is more loops, more cheesy surface stuff -- I think he was trying to make the point that apple has added a lot of silly gimmicky things and was pretending that we needed "more of it".

Rob G · 1st October 2006, 10:49 PM

Automatic Delay Compensation of all TDM/DAE audio steams, & plug-ins in addition to what's already covered by Logic Pro. I mean it does'nt even make sense to be able to access the TDM/DAE world if you can't sync things properly with it.

Rob G.

Bump Music · 2nd October 2006, 06:23 AM

How about Control Click on the fader changes the entire volume of the track that already has volume automation on it. I'm tired of zooming into the yellow meter on the arrange page and Apple clicking that.

Captin Al · 2nd October 2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump Music

I agree with EVERY SINGLE THING you all have said.

Basically.... make Logic equal to, if not better than Pro Tools, Nuendo, DP. Cuz right now, it's soooooooo FAR behind.

The other day, it took me 4 hours to edit and "beat detective" drum tracks in Logic. It took me 1.5 hours to do the same thing in Pro Tools. And I am super fast in Logic and I absolutely suck at Pro Tools.

I completly agree, there are a number of us PT users that use PT just for Beat Detective , if only Logic had one, surely that has to be number 1 wish for Logic 8!

gfx · 2nd October 2006, 11:34 AM

Rob G .

I asked apple directly about this recently at a show , there answer 'not in our interest' (has getting into bed with apogee got anything to do with this i wonder...) there big push is native so expect more crappy content , more instruments I never use.

I have loved logic for years , but since V7 im less and less enamoured with it.

Apple are breaking far to much , the support which used to be ace is now none existant.

My list of things :

Sample accurate edit ,
playlists ,
groups that work properly.
PDC for DAE
PDC for buses
Buses that allow mono sends to stereo channels etc
better import/export of songs from other setups
EXS over haul anyone?

I would go on , but....... whats the point? If I felt like apple cared one jot maybe it would make a difference.

Anyone confirm of deny whether logic 8 is ppc and intel friendly?

GFX

Roger Starr · 2nd October 2006, 02:05 PM

The question is whether there will be a version 8 at all? Also, LogicPro is now at 7.2xxx, who says they won't first come up with 7.3, 7.4, 7.5 etc.? And still, at the time 8 is going to be released, what versions of PT, Cubase, Nuendo etc. will we have then which has functionaliyt or whatever you want to have too? It's an everlasting battle. Most important question is whether Apple is seriously trying to push the pro market with a killer pro product or whether they are more consumer oriented. Roadmap, roadmap, roadmap...

Regards,

Roger

Tibbon · 2nd October 2006, 03:39 PM

Sometimes I do wish that corporations would openly act like some of the open source groups and show us their roadmaps for development for the next 3 years. Won't ever happen, but it would stop a lot of fighting if they were truthful (unlike Microsoft for some future announcements).

I am convinced more now than ever, that Apple bought emagic because to Apple it was cheap, and they wanted to rape the technology for their consumer apps (iLife and Garageband). The fact that they even released version 7 was probably just some concession to emagic and a few friends, but nothing more. Version 8 is looking doubtful to me now.

Might just have to buy a freaking HD right afterall.

Bump Music · 2nd October 2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx

Rob G .

I asked apple directly about this recently at a show , there answer 'not in our interest' (has getting into bed with apogee got anything to do with this i wonder...) there big push is native so expect more crappy content , more instruments I never use.
GFX

What exactly did you ask Apple about?

Ghost Logic · 2nd October 2006, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbaby987

i would love for logic to have the external effects pdc like cubase and nuendo.. that would be nice..

this feature is number one on my wish list

gfx · 2nd October 2006, 11:29 PM

Bump :

The prospect of PDC for DAE objects...

I feel apple + apogee want to fight HD PT of with there own system.

Call me paranoid!

:)

GFX

mersisblue · 3rd October 2006, 02:39 AM

text comments on the mixer

below the fader

Tibbon · 3rd October 2006, 07:26 PM

Context sensitive tooltips/balloons. Would be really nice to be able to know the name of a button, and perhaps a bit about it's function if you pressed Option or something while the baloon is floating... would be killer and sooo helpful for figuring stuff out at first.

The ability to turn this off would be nice too.

HiRaX · 3rd October 2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overclock

seriously now, why is that? drives me banannas.

- b

Take it off Smart

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1st October 2006, 03:23 PM	#32
MINOR Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 14	Besides the things that have been already mentioned I'd like to see a more streamlined GUI, an easier to use environment, and and and. But I think what we really get to see is total iLife integration and podcast publishing right out of Logic plus 2 additional DVD full of brand new apple loops and some more stunning presets. brrrr.... -__- edit: oh I forgot... probably a totally new package design with enhanced specs ( minimal requirements: Mac Pro 2.0 Ghz :) ) __________________ myspace.com/ishbeats

2nd October 2006, 03:39 PM	#54
Tibbon Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boston/MA Posts: 4,109	Wish corporations acted like open source groups Sometimes I do wish that corporations would openly act like some of the open source groups and show us their roadmaps for development for the next 3 years. Won't ever happen, but it would stop a lot of fighting if they were truthful (unlike Microsoft for some future announcements). I am convinced more now than ever, that Apple bought emagic because to Apple it was cheap, and they wanted to rape the technology for their consumer apps (iLife and Garageband). The fact that they even released version 7 was probably just some concession to emagic and a few friends, but nothing more. Version 8 is looking doubtful to me now. Might just have to buy a freaking HD right afterall. __________________ David Fisher (aka tibbon) What is Noise, Blog (DIY, gear, tech, etc) Follow me on Twitter

3rd October 2006, 07:26 PM	#59
Tibbon Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boston/MA Posts: 4,109	Context sensitive tooltips/balloons. Would be really nice to be able to know the name of a button, and perhaps a bit about it's function if you pressed Option or something while the baloon is floating... would be killer and sooo helpful for figuring stuff out at first. The ability to turn this off would be nice too. __________________ David Fisher (aka tibbon) What is Noise, Blog (DIY, gear, tech, etc) Follow me on Twitter

1st October 2006, 03:00 PM	#31
Psyko/Acoustics Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 410	A few less "we're the best" users.

1st October 2006, 04:06 PM	#33
kosi Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Berlin Posts: 612	http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewforum.php?f=12

1st October 2006, 04:21 PM	#35
DeBasement Gear nut Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 139	Hm. I'd like to see Apple give a crap about Logic users. Maybe even answer their emails or contribute to the forums once in a while... Then I'd like to see multi-channel virtual instruments that work as easily as their MIDI counterparts... You should be able to control at least panning and volume of multi-channel plugins without needing custom environment objects and aux channels. Group editing and multiple-take "playlist" functions. Drum recording on Logic 7 is a PITA. I don't want complete Sound Diver editing, but at least MIDI instruments should be able to ask for the patch names. And PDC for external instruments (like Cubase/Nuendo's PING feature) Better tempo mapping, follow external tempo and film scoring tools. No more plugins, dance music toys, or garage band loops. Fix the bugs. That'll do for now.

1st October 2006, 04:49 PM	#37
DeBasement Gear nut Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 139	Oh yeah, forgot. FIX THE ZOOMING. When you zoom in to a region, it should stay centered on your screen. When you select a cycle range and zoom out to get it all on screen, it should stay on screen. (currently it shifts all around the freakin' place). And maybe some larger font sizes or mixer objects for those of us who work on high resolution screens at arms' length? (Okay, now I'm just being whiney).

1st October 2006, 05:30 PM	#38
joshelevator Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 454	don't know if its possible but if posiible-work to get sidechains going with third party plugins for native logic.

1st October 2006, 05:35 PM	#39
DaveC Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 401	PC-version, funny nobody mentioned that...

1st October 2006, 05:40 PM	#40
n8tron Lives for gear Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 556	also, a price cut would be nice. Everyone thinks logic is a good deal cause of everything you get with it, but the competition is catching up. dp 5: $500 cubase 4: $800 sonar 6: $600 (though with their 6,000 versions I wouldn't know which is most comparable to logic) live 6: $600 all these have good quality processing plugins and instruments. I highly doubt logic 8 will cost less but I can still hope.

1st October 2006, 07:29 PM	#45
quincyg Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,434	I would like all the bugs fixed first and foremost. I'm tired of session and template corruption. Tired of memory errors. Tired of instrument drop out. Need the automation copying to be fixed so that is doesn't screw up the automation that follows. Stability is critical. I is hard to use this product professionally if you have to worry about a session just becoming unusable or parts dissapearing from you session or audio instruments dropping out. And please don't ask me for more info on these bugs as they are well documented on the sonikmatter or apple forums. differen't versions have certain things fixed, but ultimately introduce new bugs. I am hoping that they are recoding this thing from the ground up. Once those bugs are fixed i would love more pro tools style audio functionality. If Logic 8 isn't more stable I'm afraid I will have to starting thinking about alternatives, again. I did hear that take lists were in the works.

1st October 2006, 09:31 PM	#46
Bump Music Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 615	The copying of automation sucks.

1st October 2006, 10:49 PM	#49
Rob G Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hampton Roads, VA - U.S.A. Posts: 597	Automatic Delay Compensation of all TDM/DAE audio steams, & plug-ins in addition to what's already covered by Logic Pro. I mean it does'nt even make sense to be able to access the TDM/DAE world if you can't sync things properly with it. Rob G.

2nd October 2006, 06:23 AM	#50
Bump Music Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 615	How about Control Click on the fader changes the entire volume of the track that already has volume automation on it. I'm tired of zooming into the yellow meter on the arrange page and Apple clicking that.

2nd October 2006, 11:34 AM	#52
gfx Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 312	Rob G . I asked apple directly about this recently at a show , there answer 'not in our interest' (has getting into bed with apogee got anything to do with this i wonder...) there big push is native so expect more crappy content , more instruments I never use. I have loved logic for years , but since V7 im less and less enamoured with it. Apple are breaking far to much , the support which used to be ace is now none existant. My list of things : Sample accurate edit , playlists , groups that work properly. PDC for DAE PDC for buses Buses that allow mono sends to stereo channels etc better import/export of songs from other setups EXS over haul anyone? I would go on , but....... whats the point? If I felt like apple cared one jot maybe it would make a difference. Anyone confirm of deny whether logic 8 is ppc and intel friendly? GFX

2nd October 2006, 02:05 PM	#53
Roger Starr Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Millcorner, Holland Posts: 652	The question is whether there will be a version 8 at all? Also, LogicPro is now at 7.2xxx, who says they won't first come up with 7.3, 7.4, 7.5 etc.? And still, at the time 8 is going to be released, what versions of PT, Cubase, Nuendo etc. will we have then which has functionaliyt or whatever you want to have too? It's an everlasting battle. Most important question is whether Apple is seriously trying to push the pro market with a killer pro product or whether they are more consumer oriented. Roadmap, roadmap, roadmap... Regards, Roger

2nd October 2006, 11:29 PM	#57
gfx Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 312	Bump : The prospect of PDC for DAE objects... I feel apple + apogee want to fight HD PT of with there own system. Call me paranoid! :) GFX

3rd October 2006, 02:39 AM	#58
mersisblue Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 764	text comments on the mixer below the fader