Best Ethnic drums plug for PTHD ?

Jonathan Starr · 19th September 2006

I'm working on a project using PTHD 3 Accel to record a band with a lot of programmed as well as pad triggered percussion sounds. Currently the sounds are being generated in Roland units designed for performance work, and we're taking analog audio out into DI's into the 192.

The Roland units have midi out, and I feel that we could get cleaner and better sounds if I use them to trigger internal sounds via midi and avoid the cheezy A/D converters in the Roland. To do this, I need patches with lots of Indian and African and Latin percussion sounds, tabla and mridingam & dolak etc.

Can anyone recommend something? All I have now is Xpand, which has limited preset patches. I am enamoured with the organ and piano sounds we are getting with NI B4II and Synthogy Ivory, and hope that there is something for percussion in the same class.

Jonathan Starr · 20th September 2006

Anyone ?

mtrepani · 20th September 2006

Two package that comes to mind are Yellow Tools Culture, and EastWest Quantum Leap RA; (maybe EWQL Stormdrums too)...

Culture
RA

I've used Culture only, which is much cheaper than RA, and is specifically Percussions. Depending on your preferences, keep in mind also that Culture uses a USB dongle authorization (NOT an iLok), where RA (and Stormdrum) are NI Kompakt player, thus Challenge/Response authorization.

I was hooked when I watched the Demo video for Culture, which displays more a day to day operation and result, as opposed to the "tweaked to death" demo songs from EWQL!!!

Both run as RTAS, and can use multiple outputs to separate the instruments onto their individual tracks.

You're just gonna have to test for yourself and decide which to pick, or get them all!!!

Martin

Jonathan Starr · 21st September 2006

Thanks Martin,

Culture looks like the better choice, since it has more relevant instrument choices and it is one third the price of RA.

I don't understand why they created their own proprietary dongle instead of using iLOK. I guess they are trying to keep the dollars in house instead of paying fees to Pace, but it is shortsighted.

Ruudman · 21st September 2006

make sure to check out Best Service, ZeroG and Swar while you're at it.

Good luck thumbsup

ruudman

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Jonathan Starr Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2005 Location: Wailuku, Maui, Hi Posts: 1,048 Thread Starter	Best Ethnic drums plug for PTHD ? I'm working on a project using PTHD 3 Accel to record a band with a lot of programmed as well as pad triggered percussion sounds. Currently the sounds are being generated in Roland units designed for performance work, and we're taking analog audio out into DI's into the 192. The Roland units have midi out, and I feel that we could get cleaner and better sounds if I use them to trigger internal sounds via midi and avoid the cheezy A/D converters in the Roland. To do this, I need patches with lots of Indian and African and Latin percussion sounds, tabla and mridingam & dolak etc. Can anyone recommend something? All I have now is Xpand, which has limited preset patches. I am enamoured with the organ and piano sounds we are getting with NI B4II and Synthogy Ivory, and hope that there is something for percussion in the same class. __________________ Aloha, Jonathan Starr Big Gorilla Sound Twixt reef & jungle Wailuku, Maui

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Jonathan Starr Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2005 Location: Wailuku, Maui, Hi Posts: 1,048 Thread Starter	Anyone ?

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mtrepani Gear interested Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 16	Two package that comes to mind are Yellow Tools Culture, and EastWest Quantum Leap RA; (maybe EWQL Stormdrums too)... Culture RA I've used Culture only, which is much cheaper than RA, and is specifically Percussions. Depending on your preferences, keep in mind also that Culture uses a USB dongle authorization (NOT an iLok), where RA (and Stormdrum) are NI Kompakt player, thus Challenge/Response authorization. I was hooked when I watched the Demo video for Culture, which displays more a day to day operation and result, as opposed to the "tweaked to death" demo songs from EWQL!!! Both run as RTAS, and can use multiple outputs to separate the instruments onto their individual tracks. You're just gonna have to test for yourself and decide which to pick, or get them all!!! Martin