PCI to PCIe Converter? Does/Can It Exist/Work With Pro Tools|HD?

777 · 10th September 2006, 04:19 AM

PCI to PCIe Converter? Does/Can It Exist/Work With Pro Tools|HD?

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aussie_techie · 10th September 2006, 04:32 AM

nope not at this stage anyway, only the PCIe card to PCI-X expansion chasis

777 · 11th September 2006, 01:27 AM

I don't mean chassis. I mean PCIe to PCI cable. Like a XLR to TRS but for the computer(if this exists, or it's possible). Anyone feel free to inform on this, or explain why it may, or may not be possible at all.

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AdamJay · 11th September 2006, 01:37 AM

PCIe to PCI ? or PCI to PCIe ?

777 · 11th September 2006, 01:58 AM

PCIe Computer to PCI Expansion Chassis. Can this work, or is it technically impossible. If so do you think that Digidesign will test it for working with Pro Tools|HD? I would'nt want to have to shell out another $1K to purchase an expansion chassis if a cable will to the job.

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lozion · 11th September 2006, 02:17 AM

this you mean?

http://www.mobl.com/expansion/produc...ion/index.html

Cheers,

Adria_BCN · 11th September 2006, 02:29 PM

I think he means a kind of "genere changer" which allows to connect a PCI card into a PCI-e slot. Am i right?

If is this what you mean, here at gearslutz was said not to be compatible with PT HD, but i cant assure you as i haven't checked by myself.

Hope to help,

robi · 11th September 2006, 02:58 PM

Only one I read about is:

http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite...express-16756/

Don't know about compatibility though.

Best, robi

aussie_techie · 12th September 2006, 11:23 AM

simply the slots work differently (PCI being parallel and PCIe being serial) so its not possible to simple have an adapter cable as the over simplified example of an XLR-TRS.

as robi mention there are some simple cards but dont know if they work with TDM cards, its unlikley that digidesign will ever test them.
on top of that you may be trouble egtting the things in your case, as they ass significant height to a card you cant simply slot them in unless you lower the mobother board and i dont think any case will have enough free space to mount the mobo that low.

easiest solution is dont buy a computer without PCI slots

Rob G · 14th September 2006, 08:25 PM

All,

According to 'Jill' at Magma a simple solution is to purchase the following:

Magma - PEHIFX1

which retails for $299.00.

It is supposedly a PCIe host card to be installed into your computer that connects up to the the same cable/multipin connector that goes between your computer's standard PCI host card, & PCI expansion chassis. 'Jill' says that you can hook this up to a non-64bit chassis(in my case a 13slot expansion chassis), & it will work just fine. But, call Magma at 800.285.8990 to verify this, and this especially for your particular application.

Rob G.

puuluu · 26th October 2007, 12:44 PM

Do you think this would work when trying to make a PTHD3 PCI work in a Mac Pro?
http://www.virtuavia.eu/shop/pci-exp...ox-p29809.html

wildpark · 26th October 2007, 01:31 PM

yes its anybody with knowledge over vituavia expansion and protools here !?

emaild them serveral times not answer at all !!

Switchcraft · 26th October 2007, 02:12 PM

I wouldnt trust those tings personally. Just trade in the cards for the new. Isnt it like 1k or something?

aussie_techie · 29th October 2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puuluu

Do you think this would work when trying to make a PTHD3 PCI work in a Mac Pro?
PCI Express to PCI Expansion Box - PC & Macintosh

that box wouldnt be long enough for TDM cards anyway

puuluu · 31st October 2007, 03:08 PM

^Bummer, the crossgrade is over 6000 USD from the dealer in Finland.

Jax · 31st October 2007, 05:41 PM

Rob,

When/if you try this, I'd like to know how well it works. I would be using this card with a Mac Pro running PTHD, and UAD PCI cards. What system are you tempted to try this with?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob G

All,

According to 'Jill' at Magma a simple solution is to purchase the following:

Magma - PEHIFX1

which retails for $299.00.

It is supposedly a PCIe host card to be installed into your computer that connects up to the the same cable/multipin connector that goes between your computer's standard PCI host card, & PCI expansion chassis. 'Jill' says that you can hook this up to a non-64bit chassis(in my case a 13slot expansion chassis), & it will work just fine. But, call Magma at 800.285.8990 to verify this, and this especially for your particular application.

Rob G.

olivia_nb · 31st October 2007, 07:20 PM

any thoughts on why this technology is so retarded expensive?

Jax · 31st October 2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olivia_nb

any thoughts on why this technology is so retarded expensive?

The PCIe card Rob mentioned is only 300 bucks, but yes, Magma's PCIe to PCIe chassis is exorbitantly pricey. My thoughts are that Magma believes it has the industry by the balls, that they are the defacto standard for this technology, and they know it. However, in this thread there's at least 1 other company with a similar offering (although I'd never use a chassis that needs a wall wart!).

I just might try the Magma PCIe card with an older expansion chassis. If it doesn't work, I can basically recoup my investment in the 2nd hand chassis, and hopefully just return the card.

The only things I'm doubtful about would be the card's driver compatibility with both PTHD and OSX... especially with Leopard fresh out on the street.

Jax · 31st October 2007, 10:26 PM

Here's a thread from the UA forum detailing what it takes to make the card mentioned above work with an older expansion chassis:

UAD Forums :: View topic - Magma?

A pair of $300 cards and a $99 cable to make them all play nice together, assuming you already have an older Magma chassis that uses the flat cable.

Still cheaper than buying a new Magma PCI chassis and a $300 card....

Friggin' circus!

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10th September 2006, 04:32 AM	#2
aussie_techie Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 2,040	nope not at this stage anyway, only the PCIe card to PCI-X expansion chasis

11th September 2006, 01:27 AM	#3
777 Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 171	I don't mean chassis. I mean PCIe to PCI cable. Like a XLR to TRS but for the computer(if this exists, or it's possible). Anyone feel free to inform on this, or explain why it may, or may not be possible at all. A 777 Subject.

11th September 2006, 01:37 AM	#4
AdamJay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,368	PCIe to PCI ? or PCI to PCIe ?

11th September 2006, 01:58 AM	#5
777 Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 171	PCIe Computer to PCI Expansion Chassis. Can this work, or is it technically impossible. If so do you think that Digidesign will test it for working with Pro Tools\|HD? I would'nt want to have to shell out another $1K to purchase an expansion chassis if a cable will to the job. A 777 Subject.

11th September 2006, 02:29 PM	#7
Adria_BCN Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 137	I think he means a kind of "genere changer" which allows to connect a PCI card into a PCI-e slot. Am i right? If is this what you mean, here at gearslutz was said not to be compatible with PT HD, but i cant assure you as i haven't checked by myself. Hope to help,

11th September 2006, 02:58 PM	#8
robi Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 73	Only one I read about is: http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite...express-16756/ Don't know about compatibility though. Best, robi

12th September 2006, 11:23 AM	#9
aussie_techie Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 2,040	simply the slots work differently (PCI being parallel and PCIe being serial) so its not possible to simple have an adapter cable as the over simplified example of an XLR-TRS. as robi mention there are some simple cards but dont know if they work with TDM cards, its unlikley that digidesign will ever test them. on top of that you may be trouble egtting the things in your case, as they ass significant height to a card you cant simply slot them in unless you lower the mobother board and i dont think any case will have enough free space to mount the mobo that low. easiest solution is dont buy a computer without PCI slots

14th September 2006, 08:25 PM	#10
Rob G Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hampton Roads, VA - U.S.A. Posts: 597	All, According to 'Jill' at Magma a simple solution is to purchase the following: Magma - PEHIFX1 which retails for $299.00. It is supposedly a PCIe host card to be installed into your computer that connects up to the the same cable/multipin connector that goes between your computer's standard PCI host card, & PCI expansion chassis. 'Jill' says that you can hook this up to a non-64bit chassis(in my case a 13slot expansion chassis), & it will work just fine. But, call Magma at 800.285.8990 to verify this, and this especially for your particular application. Rob G.

26th October 2007, 12:44 PM	#11
puuluu Gear interested Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13	Do you think this would work when trying to make a PTHD3 PCI work in a Mac Pro? http://www.virtuavia.eu/shop/pci-exp...ox-p29809.html

26th October 2007, 01:31 PM	#12
wildpark Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: dominikan republic,germany... Posts: 957	yes its anybody with knowledge over vituavia expansion and protools here !? emaild them serveral times not answer at all !!

26th October 2007, 02:12 PM	#13
Switchcraft Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philly Posts: 969	I wouldnt trust those tings personally. Just trade in the cards for the new. Isnt it like 1k or something?

31st October 2007, 03:08 PM	#15
puuluu Gear interested Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13	^Bummer, the crossgrade is over 6000 USD from the dealer in Finland.

31st October 2007, 10:26 PM	#19
Jax Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Rafael, CA Posts: 3,669	Here's a thread from the UA forum detailing what it takes to make the card mentioned above work with an older expansion chassis: UAD Forums :: View topic - Magma? A pair of $300 cards and a $99 cable to make them all play nice together, assuming you already have an older Magma chassis that uses the flat cable. Still cheaper than buying a new Magma PCI chassis and a $300 card.... Friggin' circus!