Stereo aux sends in Cubase SX?

[Natural Mystic]

Is there a way to do discrete stereo aux sends in Cubase SX? Say for instance you have your drums sub mixed to a stereo group channel. Using the aux send on this channel can you actualy send the stereo mix to a stereo fx channel with a compressor plug, reverb, eq, etc and will the fx channel retain the stereo image/panning from your drum sub mix? I've tried doing the parral compression trick for drums using this method but upon further tests I realized the send summed the stereo info from the drum sub mix to mono and then only sent this mono info to the stereo fx track. Make sense??? Can anyone help?

[John The Cut]

I would suggest you have a MONO FX channel setup. I dont have any trouble here.

[redroom]

Use two sends and pan one send left and the other right

[Absolute]

I dont think it sums them to mono..maybe you used a mono plug or didnt have Stereo engaged on one of the plugins

[Ziggy!!]

A stereo aux?

right click on the track headers in the mix or edit window and choose "add fx channel track", then select a stereo fx channel.

Route each individual drum track to the same fx track using the "sends" menu's (which can be accessed 3 different ways but im sure you know how to get to them)...

It will maintain the panning infomation, unless you have chosen a mono fx channel or plugin.

[Red_venom]

If your soundcard has internal busses can cubase take advantage of those in a similar way to how ProTools handles bussing?

Anyone know.. Im wanting to pick up an RME or M-Audio card for Cubase use only and it would just really improve the program to me if it had internal busses that I could use for say, sending one FX track to another.

[Bob Yordan]

It sure would be cool if it was possible to route a channel in the mixer to
more than one group track at a time. thumbsup

It could open up opportunities to make mode advanced mixes.

[Ziggy!!]

Originally Posted by Bob Yordan

It sure would be cool if it was possible to route a channel in the mixer to
more than one group track at a time. thumbsup

It could open up opportunities to make mode advanced mixes.

In what situation would you need such a thing? I can't think of any reason to route a track to multiple group channels...

[garysjo]

Originally Posted by Ziggy!!

In what situation would you need such a thing? I can't think of any reason to route a track to multiple group channels...

Think Michael Brauer..

[John The Cut]

Originally Posted by Bob Yordan

It sure would be cool if it was possible to route a channel in the mixer to
more than one group track at a time. thumbsup

It could open up opportunities to make mode advanced mixes.

Hi Bob,

You can!

Just use the sends - you can route a channel to wherever you want. If you want a direct send click the 'pre fader' icon.

welcome, btw

[Bob Yordan]

Hi Guys

@Ziggy!! : Yup Micheal Brauer is one scenario. Also cross fading between 2 group would cool.
Different effect set ups for different parts, just switch between groups.

@mogWai : Howdy, thanx. Yeah, but I would like to have some kind of fast switching between multiple
groups, like eg track 1,3,6,7,8 to group 5 in one automation or perhaps group 4,5,6 to group 7. But it is very possible
alternative to that, that you suggest.

[Absolute]

Originally Posted by Ziggy!!

In what situation would you need such a thing? I can't think of any reason to route a track to multiple group channels...

said the guy with no imagination

haha...just kidding bro. Big hug

[Natural Mystic]

Wow, thanks for the help guys. I didn't think I'd get so many answers so soon. It turned out to be my mistake, I had something setup wrong. It's all good now. Something of interest I just noticed... you can only send fx channels to the main buss. I'm on SX2.2.something... is this different in version 3?

[Ziggy!!]

Originally Posted by Bob Yordan

Hi Guys

@Ziggy!! : Yup Micheal Brauer is one scenario. Also cross fading between 2 group would cool.
Different effect set ups for different parts, just switch between groups.

That can all be done using aux fx channels too though, there are plenty of ways to approach it.


If you are really set on doing it with groups, Mogwai gave you one way...

For the scenario you mentioned:

Change the output of tracks 1,3,6,7 & 8 to group 5, and the output of tracks 4 & 5 to group 7, then on the tracks that double up (6 in your example) route it to group 7 within the channel sends... done. You can decide if you want to use pre or post fader sends.

[John The Cut]

Originally Posted by Natural Mystic

Wow, thanks for the help guys. I didn't think I'd get so many answers so soon. It turned out to be my mistake, I had something setup wrong. It's all good now. Something of interest I just noticed... you can only send fx channels to the main buss. I'm on SX2.2.something... is this different in version 3?

well I cant remember how it works in 2.2 but in 3.1 you can route the FX channels to any of your main outs, but only 1 - so you could have the main mix going to Stereo 1/2 and the FX to Stereo 3/4.. but no way to send them to both... but there are sends on the FX channels... I dont have it switched on at the mo, so I'm lost on this one

In fact, cubase's routing of groups has always been a bit weird.

What we need in 4 is a way to route say Group 2 back to Group 1, and indeed a way to route the FX to more than 1 output.

[Bob Yordan]

Originally Posted by Ziggy!!

That can all be done using aux fx channels too though, there are plenty of ways to approach it.


If you are really set on doing it with groups, Mogwai gave you one way...

For the scenario you mentioned:

Change the output of tracks 1,3,6,7 & 8 to group 5, and the output of group 4 & 5 to group 7, then on the tracks that double up (6 in your example) route it to group 7 within the channel sends... done. You can decide if you want to use pre or post fader sends.

Yup, when I think of it, it might be as easy using sends, and automating group on/off + fader movements.
This also has the advantage of individual volume control from each track. The Micheal Brauer scenario should also
work. Just switching to another group does not include a possibility to adapt the volumes to the new effect rack.



I did try that scenario a while back, but there was some disadvantage that I dont remember now.

[dubrichie]

what i would like in sx4 is:

ability to put inserts on master outputs.

ability to route fx channels to group channels.

ability to move plugins up / down slots on a track or between tracks without losing settings a la PT.

probably some other stuff i can't think of right now.

regards,

richie.

[Westex]

Originally Posted by Natural Mystic

Something of interest I just noticed... you can only send fx channels to the main buss. I'm on SX2.2.something... is this different in version 3?

I've stopped using so many FX channels in favor of group channels. The routing is a lot more flexible this way.

Also, remember that you can only route group channels to other group channels with a higher number. Check page 236 of the Cubase manual for the lowdown.

[mixedup]

Originally Posted by dubrichie

what i would like in sx4 is:


probably some other stuff i can't think of right now.

regards,

richie.

...you'd be thinking of easy to use sidechaining! Fingers x'd for SX4...