Thanks for the thoughts
For the moment Diva is out of what I can afford.
XLIS is from the developer of the PolyKB.. Its an emulation of the EMS VCS3.. apparently the first sorta portable synth.. famous for being used by Brian Eno and Floyd. It's older then the PolyKB so the modeling is apparently not quite as good... but I've heard many people talking about liking the PolyKB a good deal more then the DCAM stuff, on sonics anyway.. Here's the sound on sound review
The reviewer actually has experience with the real synth being emulated.. (which is quite rare).. the real thing was horribly unstable.. which is why people dropped them when the minimoog and arp 2600 came out.. but that erratic instability is also what was really cool about it.
Well the emulation doesn't capture the erratic unstable aspect of the synth.. but it seems to be quite good anyway... It's modular.. can be used as an effects processor.. has this kind of old synth-e quality that's like..
Anyway.. there's a $20 no brainer on an LE version of it.. which seems like quite an outstanding value.. so I sorta recommend you check it out..
I've been a lot more impressed by the samples I've heard of the XLIS 3 then DCAM.. and I kinda like that the XILS 3 is sorta different and not everybody knows about it.
So.. on the subject of feeling the need for soft synths...
I'm somewhat bored of the usual Native Instruments synths.. I've been a Komplete user since OSX 1... Omnisphere's awesome but a RAM hog.. all the Kontakt based stuff is good.. but I can only use so much of it in a 32 bit environment.
Reason's new rack extensions do have much better sonic options for analog sounds.. there's always been analog sound in Reason just that.. well at the very least, most of what is in there is rather old.
Now I know there's a bridge for Ableton on the PC side.. that lets you load 32 plugs in 64, but I don't know about there being anything on the Mac side.. so even with the revelation of there being a bridge I could use in DP.. some percentage of the time I'll probably need to go 32 bit.. just so I can have my full plug in folder.
I would say maybe 80% or more of my processor plugins aren't 64-bit. There's 64-bit upgrades out there for many of them.. but I did the math and the cost to bring everything to 64-bit was north of $1000...
So if you're thinking 32-bit.. For analog sounds.. my pallet is actually not all that big, but in 64-bit I think it's pretty good.
Diva looks nice.. but it's a little out of my price range in terms of what I can afford by midnight tonight.. and I don't have a good picture of what it's impact might be if I were to turn down the quality level.
Basically.. right now I'm working on projects where I'll put in 140 or so hours worth of work.. My last 2 project's in Reason had 60 instruments (sometimes an instrument in Reason is a number of virtual instruments).. and in DP I'm usually in the 30s...
At the moment each instance's will religiously have a Wave's stereo imager, RenEQ, one or another PSP EQ... and its possible that it'll have a Motu MW EQ... depending on what it is.. there maybe one or another compressor.. often some sorta warm it up type plug in..
My current default template in DP include 8 reverb aux's.. mostly altiverb.. but a little of IK's Hall, and Waves's Ren Reveb.. There's at least 4 delays... at the moment I'm using the waves H-Delay, 2 of PSP's delays, and a tape echo delay from Guitar Rig quite a lot..
I'm starting to play around with putting the NI SSL bus compressor on my master buss.. and some there vintage compressors on the drums and basses..
So what I'm trying to drive at in this limited picture is that there's a tun of crap going on in my projects..
Now DP has some management features where it renders stuff in the background and that can help... but the way I'm currently working.. freezing tracks doesn't really work for me... and any plug in that's processor hungry is going to mean there's going to have to be trade offs in other places.
I'm not against trade offs per say.. it's just that they are a factor to be thought about.
Oh I should have mentioned that the deal on the DCAM and the XILS 3.. they both have big deals going on where they're only $100, which is why I'm focused here. The XILS 3 is normally $200. On the subject of Digital Performer
I was not very excited about DP8.. I kinda felt like.. "I really don't need more guitar stomp box emulations" --and I say that as a guitarist.. I thought there were what looked like some cool new processors in there.. but some of that I already get in other plugins.. And I kinda felt like if you can get Logic for $200.. and really I'd be upgrading to DP for the 64-bit stuff (which I felt they should have gotten around to doing something about eons ago)..
It's sorta like an upgrade that just wasn't compelling.. and I was sorta annoyed by anyone saying "well you can just use your 64-bit plugs, you don't need a bridge cause most of them are 64-bit now anyway," cause who want's to spend north of $1000 to basically get what they currently have.. just to make it run in 64-bit mode?
So I heard the Reaper bridge was supposed to be good.. and.. well it seemed like it might be worth giving it a shot.. so I've been evaluating... but the truth is I'd rather prefer to stick to DP.. just cause I know it fairly well.. and it's important to me to have some tool I'm working with where I have high productivity levels.. and know deeply..
(I spend huge amounts of time learning new stuff and struggling to create work that's on the same level as what I can sorta do in DP without breaking a sweet)
But I hadn't heard about the bridge for DP.. so maybe what I should really be doing is saving my money to upgrade DP?
Still, I had had my eye on the XLIS 3 since reading about it in that sound on sound review a few years back. I suppose the that there seems to be some consensus that the DCAM stuff doesn't sound as great as it could.. certainly not if you compare it to the better analog modeled soft synths of the moment.