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Does anyone dislike VCC and VTM?

They are on sale really cheap right now and I see praise from everyone about these plugs. I want to test but only have ilok 1. Anyone want to talk me out of it?

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Never heard of anybody who would not like these plugins
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Ilok2 on the other hand.........
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I hate iLok but Slate makes awesome plugs and I'd rather see a good company stay in business,continue to produce new products,be able to afford to offer real tech support and constantly update & improve the products and not get raped by pirates and thieves.
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I've had no problems with ilok :knocks on wood:

Hopefully it stays that way.

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I like the VTM and didn't like the VCC when I demoed it, so I just bought VTM on sale
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VTM - only gives you a few options - if your a presto guy it works Ok.
UAD Studer and Ampex are way better for me as I tweak more.
But I use HEAT and Phoenix II more than VCC & VTM mainly because they are AAX DSP while slate plug-ins are native only.
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UAD Studer and Ampex are way better for me as I tweak more.
I agree that if you already have those plugins, having VTM is not that big deal.

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I like the VTM and didn't like the VCC when I demoed it, so I just bought VTM on sale
Why didnt you like it?
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Haven't found time yet to try VTM but VCC gets strapped across every music job I do here...
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Used to use VCC on everything now it's barely used at all!!
Seems to cloud up my mixes. Now I might use the neve here and there if something needs that particular type of girth (love that word !) but I find it easier to mix without it.
Old habits...
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From the looks of it, it seems like the VCC is a lot of work to deal with. Having to add it to every track up front and mix into it, then not really be able to bypass and get a fair comparison.

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Imo VCC adds a "fake high end to most tracks... I still prefer nebula for console emulation. VTM on the other hand can be real nice from time to time.

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Nebula isn't aax/rtas right?

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Sorry, what's VCC AND VTM?

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Heat is HD only it seems, so I can't go for that. Phoenix ii is more than double the price of the VCC/VTM combo, which is just too much for me.



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Sorry, what's VCC AND VTM?

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If you can only get one I would go with VTM. I use both but I don't put them on every channel. For what it's worth I'm still going to buy Phoenix II soon. When I demoed it I really liked it.
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I'm really tempted because the pair can be had for just $195 right now. Seems like a pretty killer deal since they are normally 2 bones each. Have you guys seen the price this low before?

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Didnt like VCC when I demoed it. Compared to NLS, it does strange things in bass region. I am happy with Cakewalk's Sonar X2 console emulations {SSL, Neve, Trident} on paar with NLS IMHO. Especially Neve version does miracles on mids...
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I really like both products. I wouldn't want to mix without VCC now that I've been using it. With VTM, I could go either way. VTM is great, but you don't NEED the tape sound. It is quite flattering to have the 1/2" 456 30ips on the mix bus, but I could also live without it.

VCC is more of a must-have purchase. I usually go for the Brit-N and set the levels of all the channels and the mix bus peaking at 0db on the VUl. I feel that if you're more conservative with the levels you don't get the console sound.
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Didnt like VCC when I demoed it. Compared to NLS, it does strange things in bass region. I am happy with Cakewalk's Sonar X2 console emulations {SSL, Neve, Trident} on paar with NLS IMHO. Especially Neve version does miracles on mids...
yeah NLS is different than VCC in that way. I tried NLS first, but I actually liked what VCC did too the bass.

NLS is cool too, but I feel that VCC does a better job emulating with crosstalk and all that. Also, VCC has more 60s/70s consoles. NLS is 2 80s consoles and 1 70s console. I like the sound of the 70s consoles more.
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I'm really tempted because the pair can be had for just $195 right now. Seems like a pretty killer deal since they are normally 2 bones each. Have you guys seen the price this low before?

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They're on sale for $195 now?! You'd be crazy not the pull the trigger on that deal... I paid $150 for each two months ago and thought that was a good deal.
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everyone was raving about vcc but i see as times change habits do too.
what happened ?
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If you read carefully audio forums, you find that name Steven Slate is almost untouchable. A lot of hype about his products and I am not saying that they are not great
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I think that Slate is almost the "best" company at the moment with Softube. Its really great to see how enthusiastic they are about their products. Also its nice to see that they take part to the discussions on the forum.

There are some companies who just throw their product out and support is quite hard to get after that.
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website shows 299 bucks! black friday was 199 but where is this 195 that thou has mentioned ?
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Didnt like VCC when I demoed it. Compared to NLS, it does strange things in bass region. I am happy with Cakewalk's Sonar X2 console emulations {SSL, Neve, Trident} on paar with NLS IMHO. Especially Neve version does miracles on mids...
Different strokes, I demoed both and didn't like NLS as much as VCC... both are good though
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Different strokes, I demoed both and didn't like NLS as much as VCC... both are good though
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AudioDeluxe has the deal. Really, NAMM is what's me holding me back right now. I don't want to blow all my cash then see something awesome at NAMM.

I agree that Softube is great too. Wondering what they have coming down the pipeline.

Also looking for a millennia piece from plugin alliance.

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I like trigger a lot.

I dont like VCC (the only plugin that blue screens my computer and does not fullfill the marketing expectations), VTM doesn't sound like tape to me (same goes for the UA Studer) and FXG magically disappears a lot of times out of my plugin folder. And yes I went trough all the slate ticketing/no answer/it's not our problem troubleshooting.

I still sell slate products, personally I am very happy with trigger and the dragon compressor.

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