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Old 2nd November 2012   #1
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Best SSD drive - recording audio over and over

I understand that SSD drives (at least a while ago) get worse the more that they have date written to them.

Is there an SSD drive that would be great for a recordin g drive, that I can write on over and over and not lose its speed, performance, etc? Just wondering if a new technology has come along to preserve drives for lots of writes.

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I use the LaCie SSD via thunderbolt to record five days a week for the last year. No issues whatsoever. Not sure what you're referring to in terms of a SSD "getting worse" as you read / write continually? Maybe some links? That's intriguing... Anyway, my experience w using this SSD to record on has been nothin but sunshine. Worth the investment, it smokes my old 7200 rpm drive.
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The amount of time you'd have to keep it in order for it to start wearing out is just not something to worry about. After 2-3 years you'd probably want to upgrade it anyway as the new ones get faster and faster.
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what he's referring to is an ssd without trim support. over time without using a trim app they slow down. you need to have the data you use more often closer to the drive's onboard memory controller i/o rather than further down the chain. this will keep it working faster. on smaller ssd's this isn't much of an issue with later fatser onboard chips say a sandforce 2 controller on a 60-120 gb drive.


with a larger drive and a controller chip with less lanes you have a chip designed to be used to access certain amounts of flash doing double the work and getting 1/2 the speed... there's only so much bandwidth the controller chip has and it has to do housekeeping tasks like a cpu does and add it all up....
the longer data sits on the drive the more work it has to perform on tasks like wear levelling and trim and i/o also suffers as the chips out now aren't designed to handle large flash banks
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The Angelbird SSD's keep on working. We did record passes until there was only a few MB left, they still keep their speed up, even with RAID 0.
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The Angelbird SSD's keep on working. We did record passes until there was only a few MB left, they still keep their speed up, even with RAID 0.
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Never heard of them, thanks for the heads-up!

This sounds interesting:

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Memory chips are produced on a large round wafer, then cut into many little pieces that go inside the finished chips. Those on the side of the wafer are subject to malfunction, bad performance and way shorter lifespan, and are therefore cheaper. Most other companies buy only those cheaper chips in order to keep the price low… And lose your data! Angelbird picks only the chips in the centre with the highest number of working sectors. Other firms can expect over 30% RMA (Return rate) because of that. Angelbird’s RMA is stable at 0.5%, and this is the reason why.
I wonder how much of this is just marketing and maybe a non issue if you buy from Intel or Samsung. Does anybody know?
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I wonder how much of this is just marketing and maybe a non issue if you buy from Intel or Samsung. Does anybody know?
Well OCZ & Crucial had this business model in the RAM market, buying cheaper binned parts and selling them overvolted. Many of the RAM parts would fail initial validation at stock SPD's anyway, so the 'overclocking' parts that became popular were largely a business model of overvolting them to get them working which also buys you the ability to set the speed a bit higher for increased sale price. Get this price high enough and you can deal with huge failure rates, even better that they were offering this stuff to overclockers who are liable to just assume it's their fault and not RMA it. To what degree OCZ is doing this now, I'll let you judge..but I'm certainly more than hinting. Nothing wrong with this for the average consumer, but Samsung is what OEMs used for ages for good reason. Crucial has fared a bit better lately, and of course even Intel has had its teething issues with certain models.

Anyway I would say that the degree to which the statement you're quoting is true is the degree to which you head towards consumer oriented SSD's.
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Thanks for your reply, valis. The part about consumer products makes sense. Going by price points for the better SSDs, personally I'm going to stick to regular 7200 drives for a while longer.
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I understand that SSD drives (at least a while ago) get worse the more that they have date written to them.

Is there an SSD drive that would be great for a recordin g drive, that I can write on over and over and not lose its speed, performance, etc? Just wondering if a new technology has come along to preserve drives for lots of writes.

THANKS in advance.
there is just no reason to use an SSD for a recording drive unless you are doing say 100+ tracks live simutaneously @ 96k (large madi rig)
its just plain pointless..

for samples absolutely, as an OS drive its kinda nice. audio NO.

samsung, intel would be my recommendation

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I use a simple OCZ drive for my OS and mixing sessions. As mentioned, i cant really see much benefit using it for recording, as normal mechanical hard drives are pretty good at write speeds.
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