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Old 17th October 2012   #1
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Getting Nebula 3, which libraries?

I'm about to get Nebula 3 and I wanted some suggestions regarding the libraries I'd need. I tested Nebula Free and I really like it, but I'm still a bit confused about what to buy. I don't want to end up with 50 different libraries because I prefeer to keep my workflow streamlined. I just want to cover my basic needs in an efficient way and be confident that what I'm using can deliver good results. Here below are my ideas:

Eq's

AlexB VbEQ (that's a 550a, right?) and maybe APE channel from analoginthebox (550b, right?). Is there a 560 library somewhere? I also found the old BAE-API free library, is it good?
I'm also going to buy Doc Fear to have a Pultec style Eq (or is the AlexB PoolTeQ better?).

Reverbs

I need some good reverbs, but I found only 1 library I'd like to buy, the VNXT EMT140, and I'd be happy to receive some suggestions.

Console

I'm mixing mainly EDM, synth pop and background music, sometimes acoustic stuff, but not so often. Which console would you recommend(AlexB MBC or MWC?)? Actually, do I really need a console library or would that be overkill, as all tracks are later mastered with analog gear? How CPU intensive are the console libraries compared to Eq's?

Vocal chain

Compressor (hardware, usual suspects) -> Doc Fear -> Reverbs
Would I be able to replace the hardware with a 76D library from AlexB or should I wait for improvements in Nebula compressors? Which reverbs libraries are fine for vocal treatment? The idea is to get a full vocal chain ITB so I can process everything when I don't have analog gear at hand, or to just level down 2-3 db with an hardware compressor during tracking and then add more compression ITB if needed. Does this sound as a decent plan?

Sorry if my ideas are appearing a bit confused... but they are I thank you by now for your suggestions!
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I'm about to get Nebula 3 and I wanted some suggestions regarding the libraries I'd need. I tested Nebula Free and I really like it, but I'm still a bit confused about what to buy. I don't want to end up with 50 different libraries because I prefeer to keep my workflow streamlined. I just want to cover my basic needs in an efficient way and be confident that what I'm using can deliver good results. Here below are my ideas:

Eq's

AlexB VbEQ (that's a 550a, right?) and maybe APE channel from analoginthebox (550b, right?). Is there a 560 library somewhere? I also found the old BAE-API free library, is it good?
I'm also going to buy Doc Fear to have a Pultec style Eq (or is the AlexB PoolTeQ better?).
For EQ's, I'd go over to the AITB site and pick up all of their EQ libraries - APE, Fate, Mammoth, Doc Fear... they're 25% off for the next couple of days so there's no reason not to...

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I need some good reverbs, but I found only 1 library I'd like to buy, the VNXT EMT140, and I'd be happy to receive some suggestions.
I think you're on the right track here. Maybe check out the STN verbs too... Also, AITB just released their TC reverb library called Phonocamptica. Looks pretty deep and it's on sale too...

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I'm mixing mainly EDM, synth pop and background music, sometimes acoustic stuff, but not so often. Which console would you recommend(AlexB MBC or MWC?)? Actually, do I really need a console library or would that be overkill, as all tracks are later mastered with analog gear? How CPU intensive are the console libraries compared to Eq's?
I'd look into CDSM's The Globe, Tride-N-True or Q8 libraries. The AlexB MBC is a favorite of a lot of folks too. I don't think you need to go crazy here. Just pick up one or two that you like the sound of and you'd probably be set...

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Compressor (hardware, usual suspects) -> Doc Fear -> Reverbs
Would I be able to replace the hardware with a 76D library from AlexB or should I wait for improvements in Nebula compressors? Which reverbs libraries are fine for vocal treatment? The idea is to get a full vocal chain ITB so I can process everything when I don't have analog gear at hand, or to just level down 2-3 db with an hardware compressor during tracking and then add more compression ITB if needed. Does this sound as a decent plan?
Sounds like a good idea. I wouldn't wait for nebula to be updated to address compressor behavior, though. There are already a few really good comp libraries available like CDSM's The Drum Compressor, Cupwise's Rayphlex and Gemini's Kultcomp. Mix these with a little hardware and I think you'd be in pretty good shape.
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For EDM you definitely want AlexB MLC. I purchased many consoles, and after flushing out a lot of stuff I never use, I only kept CLC and MLC for consoles. I mainly use MLC.
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^ All of the above + All of 3rd party libraries

Nebula is absolutely fantastic and the 3rd party libraries are just as good. I've been working with Neb for a few weeks now and my excitement hasn't gone done yet.
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^ All of the above + All of 3rd party libraries

Nebula is absolutely fantastic and the 3rd party libraries are just as good. I've been working with Neb for a few weeks now and my excitement hasn't gone done yet.
I have the same response, although I have been using it slightly longer. Nebula is a serious pain, but often worth the trouble, particularly the virbs that are easy to use other than the system hit.
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I've had it a while now and the EQ's still amaze everyday ,the cooltec is just simply stunning
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Thank you very much for your suggestions!
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Watch out! Don't buy too many programs, just like hardware, you need to live with and learn each new bit of gear.

For EQ I suggest the AlexB BMeQ:

AlexB Nebula Programs - BMeQ PRO: Black Master EQ PRO

It has all the frequencies you need, shelf and peak. I would have said Doc Fear (AITB - Nebula Libraries & Audio Plugins), but i don't like the new copy protection. They are both great and REALLY all you need to mix an amazing album.

Doc Fear is a pultec clone and has great smooth highs, BMeQ is modern clean and punchy. When i say that, don't get hung up on it, it's a 'little bit more smooth' and a 'little more punchy'. It is not going to alter things that much, using Nebula itself with any programs will alter things a lot over your tracks to make it all sound better.

In fact, if you are working native 96k go with BMeQ, 44.1 Doc Fear. If you are new, don't worry why just obey my commands....

All the EQ's do sound a little different BUT the main thing to think about is how flexible they are. Many have very limited frequency choices, you need one good one that can do everything you need. They all sound much better than normal plugin EQ's, that's the main thing.

For reverb, only the VNXT EMT140 plate... AMAZING. Get ValhallaRoom for digital reverb, stick a nebula pre-amp in front of it to make it sound more 3d or coloured. Bricasti m7 is being sampled right now and will be free anyway, so that will be there for you soon too.

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Don't miss the Rayphlex 661×2 Compressors, Set A for drums, AMAZING:

Nebula release: Rayphlex 661

FORGET all the other comps, they don't really work properly. Rayphlex A and B are the first with the improvements needed. Don't listen to anyone telling you otherwise unless you want to enter a world of problems.

Have a great time with Nebula!
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Don't miss the Rayphlex 661×2 Compressors, Set A for drums, AMAZING:

Nebula release: Rayphlex 661

FORGET all the other comps, they don't really work properly. Rayphlex A and B are the first with the improvements needed. Don't listen to anyone telling you otherwise unless you want to enter a world of problems.

Have a great time with Nebula!
I have Rayphlex and yes it's amazing. However I much prefer CDSoundMaster's THE Drum Compressor on drums (obviously) lol
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Thank you David!
Yup, I don't want to buy too many libraries because I would just end up losing time... as I did with plug ins in the past
I already bought Doc Fear and it's very interesting on the hights! I already used the 550b from the old free nebulaprograms library, a very nice Eq too.
I usually work 44.1 kHz or, more often, 48 kHz. I'll have to buy very soon VbEQ to nebulize a project where I used 550a vst plugins on many channels. Is BMeQ different from VbEQ, besides the fact it has smaller gain increases?
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