Apple added all this unusable stuff for lazy ass people,like some of the people in this thread that need instant do all things at one time fast food mixing.
Could it be that the reason some people want all these advanced features that enhance workflow and make our lives easier is because we actually use our DAWs in more complex ways and, dare I say, make more complex music?
Just a thought...
Alistair
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Anyway... at least in that Logic thread you were actually on topic.
Feel free to "moan" about the software you own all you want Jay, I don't mind, I don't care. You paid for the software so you have a right to moan if you so choose, as do others.
Thanks Jay. I'm glad we cleared that up. Best regards.
Could it be that the reason some people want all these advanced features that enhance workflow and make our lives easier is because we actually use our DAWs in more complex ways and, dare I say, make more complex music?
Just a thought...
Alistair
I was building virtual knobs and sliders when you were playing in the sand box son.
I already said I use kontakt for most of my syncing needs,yes you probably needs things that I don't,and that's life.
More complex music?Naw I'm a beast bro!
I been up and down with daws over the last 20 years.Im very efficient!
Multiple flex channels or elastic audio mean it should've been fixed before it got to that point.
But if you need it in a creative way,I still only need to address one track at a time and do it all the time.
I'll cut the clip that I need copy it then offset it in the Inspector.I slow it down or speed it up,and the original copy gets muted.
I like looking at all my changes,the muted edits show me the way,its very organized.
Either way you'd still have to nice through out the song not just a few bars.
Anyway... at least in that Logic thread you were actually on topic.
Feel free to "moan" about the software you own all you want Jay, I don't mind, I don't care. You paid for the software so you have a right to moan if you so choose, as do others.
Thanks Jay. I'm glad we cleared that up. Best regards.
Your best L!
But your right lawrence,I did feel the updated done left logic behind.
I'm concerned with the direction daws travel in,they directly affect me.
If studio one has so much that's great,I've stated before maybe ill own 4 daws one day.As a mentor I know a stable daw is the most important.
We are talking about probably the(subjectively) best over daw.
One bad update could change that.its my lively hood and many others.
Check this out.. (leave your speakers down/off, sound is annoying)...
Honestly, I dont think Studio One is as clean as Cubase... Cubase, to me looks more professional, clean. Easier to arrange, see the whole picture, not to mention the midi capabilities are phenomenal. Studio one looks like a rookie compared to cubase, (which it it).
Check this out.. (leave your speakers down/off, sound is annoying)...
Honestly, I dont think Studio One is as clean as Cubase... Cubase, to me looks more professional, clean. Easier to arrange, see the whole picture, not to mention the midi capabilities are phenomenal. Studio one looks like a rookie compared to cubase, (which it it).
I may have said things people didn't like.
But I did fire up my other s1 30 day trial to look for things that didst match up.its not about that.
It's about having a daw that does what you need it to do.its not about daws having the same features.
If studio one has so much that's great,I've stated before maybe ill own 4 daws one day.As a mentor I know a stable daw is the most important.
Peace L!
I hear you J.
Again... it was - never - about Studio One. It was about workflow in general and when you demonstrate workflow differences graphically you kinda have to use what you own.
(... or use a demo of something you don't own ...)
If I was an Ableton user or something I probably would have used examples from Ableton, or Tracktion, or something else. But I don't own those so I couldn't use them for those examples.
I used Studio One and Reaper examples because I actually own them and know them pretty well. Except for Cubase 5.5, those are actually the only other two DAWs I own and occasionally use. PT8 isn't installed here anymore and Sony Vegas is really a video editor, although it has some nice UI docking bits and it has real time audio clip effects inserts also.
So (by necessity?) the Studio One / Reaper examples were the only ones I could actually use, and also speak intelligently about for the comparison.
I could have said that DP's "Melodyne-like per arrange track" pitch editing design looks better than all of them, but I can't speak intelligently about DP because I've never owned DP. But on the surface, the design for that looks better than all of them.
Check this out.. (leave your speakers down/off, sound is annoying)...
Honestly, I dont think Studio One is as clean as Cubase... Cubase, to me looks more professional, clean. Easier to arrange, see the whole picture, not to mention the midi capabilities are phenomenal. Studio one looks like a rookie compared to cubase, (which it it).
just watching it and it crackles with 13 massive at yours? had to try it out with Cb5 and i have barely a green pixel in my asio performance @ 88khz and 32bit.. the rest was the same (13 massive with 1991 and 1 bar c3)
also with cb I can just Shift click and duplicate and can all this in a fraction of the time needed than in presonus...
what latency are you using?
edit nvm saw it
this video could be done in 15 seconds just with saved songs -.-
Anyway... at least in that Logic thread you were actually on topic.
Feel free to "moan" about the software you own all you want Jay, I don't mind, I don't care. You paid for the software so you have a right to moan if you so choose, as do others.
Thanks Jay. I'm glad we cleared that up. Best regards.
It must be a love hate relationship.The world is full of those.
Yup this is what happen when you start comparing daws.
Now drag and drop is inferior.I can't get with it,sorry.
I guess I'm old:(
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youre old and i am so young and dumb. If you think so. being old or young only is of matter if both have are of same intelligence and have invested the same amount of time with the same experience triggers.
sry that I prefer quicker use of DAW. Maybe I am to old - cannot lose much time.
actually the vid wasnt just that great. it was interesting to see - but I wasted like 10 mins of my live waiting for the aha effect.
And drag and drop normally is considered in and out of several applications not in the same app.. then its just a method.. in my eyes
but what do I know I started pc with dos 3.1 and sw audio with cubasis, reason, fruity loops etc some demos.. but really since cubase sx i didnt really switch for long.. so maybe there is something better out there than quickly doing stuff. dunno.
I'd love track transform ala Studio One V2. Freezing just isn't the same, though it is useful in it's own way. I have to learn how to get the most of out it.
I am really taking to Cubase now, despite being use to Studio One v1. I can't bring myself to upgrade to S1v2 as Cubase just feels much nicer to work in. Bigger faders, nicer midi editing, much nicer gui.
I love Cubase now and would like to keep at it, but I wish we could know the what and when version 7 as I am getting use to the screens but would love
1. Multiple plug-ins in one window, accessible via tab like S1v2.
2. Track Transform.
I also heard that in Digital Performer it creates a freeze file when you record a midi part, so that once you have recorded your part it is no longer accessing said virtual instrument, but a freeze file, and when you edit midi, it unfreezes it. Supposedly this all happens in the background, and would say me and other producers a lot of CPU as I like to have a lot of synths going at once as I try many ideas.
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