Logic vs Cubase vs ProTools (DAW TEST)

[Sudad G]

A DAW sounds only as good as the man behind it

I just prefer using Cubase 6.5. Clients love the results and I get no complaints.

If I want more analog or vintage feel during mixing I plug Satson 1.2 in every channel and buss and I'm happy with it.

By the way - I think the prejudice against Cubase or other DAWs came from the time, where the people used the on board plugins of certain DAWs and in that case Logic or ProTools sounded little better. But today Cubase 6, ProTools, and Logic sound similar and if you just want to summing tracks without on board EQ, comps and effects the result should be the same.

So this discussion is ridiculous. Just look how many artists and professional users work with Cubase and Nuendo or with Logic, Ableton, Reason or ProTools.

My recomandation is - use the DAW where you feel familiar with and offers the most important functions for your work and you don't often need a manual.
An VST2.0/VST3.0 interface without compromise in compatibility, so that you can run every plugin.
For me Cubase has all this

Sudad G

[DAW PLUS]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

I think there's a business opportunity here for us programmer types:

A new suite of plugins to get your favorite DAW sound out of ANOTHER DAW !!

Of course all the latest would be represented as well as Atari based Notator for that vintage 1176-like vibe and perhaps even original Steinberg for that German U47 thing.

Should code up real quick

I think someone actually seriously asked about this last week.
I'll ask a programmer to build a dummy plug with a snappy GUI and ask $249,- for it. They get what they want, and they deserve it. Win/Win.

[joeq]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

I think there's a business opportunity here for us programmer types:

A new suite of plugins to get your favorite DAW sound out of ANOTHER DAW !!

Of course all the latest would be represented as well as Atari based Notator for that vintage 1176-like vibe and perhaps even original Steinberg for that German U47 thing.

Should code up real quick

meanwhile on the other side of town, biochemists are hard at work on the latest generation of Anti-Placebo sugar pills

they make you immune to Placebo, but only if you believe that they work

the combination of both technologies should be amazing!

[chk23]

Originally Posted by DAW PLUS

I think someone actually seriously asked about this last week.
I'll ask a programmer to build a dummy plug with a snappy GUI and ask $249,- for it. They get what they want, and they deserve it. Win/Win.

That would be the digital equivalent of 500$ audiophool cables and sound wave enhancement gems...

[The Famous Yard]

Originally Posted by Atak

Well I thought you were being rude and personally I don't think this is worth a fight. I think we all have something great to offer. I have met brilliant people on gearslutz not to mention I have learned alot. So yeah I'm done my friend. So back to the subject CUBASE RULES MAN! Lol. Naw just kidding As I said before I use other daws aswell and they all work great for me.

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I'm with you my friend. We can all help each other out here and it's great for learning. I don't get rude in a forum - why go there? If someone is ignorant of something then it's better to help and explain than call him stupid. When I am ignorant of something I want to learn what's going on.

[Atak]

Originally Posted by Sudad G

A DAW sounds only as good as the man behind it

I just prefer using Cubase 6.5. Clients love the results and I get no complaints.

If I want more analog or vintage feel during mixing I plug Satson 1.2 in every channel and buss and I'm happy with it.

By the way - I think the prejudice against Cubase or other DAWs came from the time, where the people used the on board plugins of certain DAWs and in that case Logic or ProTools sounded little better. But today Cubase 6, ProTools, and Logic sound similar and if you just want to summing tracks without on board EQ, comps and effects the result should be the same.

So this discussion is ridiculous. Just look how many artists and professional users work with Cubase and Nuendo or with Logic, Ableton, Reason or ProTools.

My recomandation is - use the DAW where you feel familiar with and offers the most important functions for your work and you don't often need a manual.
An VST2.0/VST3.0 interface without compromise in compatibility, so that you can run every plugin.
For me Cubase has all this

Sudad G

Satson Sonimus takes Cubase to another level.

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[chk23]

Originally Posted by Atak

Satson Sonimus takes Cubase to another level.

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Like VCC and VTM do...

[clivek]

Originally Posted by Sudad G

A DAW sounds only as good as the man behind it

Amen to that quote sir !!!!!

[KorgAddict]

Originally Posted by clivek

Amen to that quote sir !!!!!

But it seems it hasn't been said enough yet...

KA

[joeq]

Originally Posted by Sudad G

A DAW sounds only as good as the man behind it

unless that DAW's "audio engine" is mushy, harsh or dull


then, no matter how good the man is, his tracks will be forced to come out mushy, harsh or dull

[Atak]

Originally Posted by chk23

Like VCC and VTM do...

Haven't use those but what I have read about them and viewed on Youtube I would agree.

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[clivek]

Originally Posted by joeq

unless that DAW's "audio engine" is mushy, harsh or dull

No their audio is mushy, harsh or dull

And their engineering chops suck !!!!! LOL

[peter_martin]

Originally Posted by LeMauce

Right... not this again...

Totes...
So its 2:30 in the morning, sitting in a hotel room, nothing to do but read GS and I click on this thread.

For some reason that English dubbed Japanese show "Extreme Elimination Challenge" type of commentary came to mind.

I wonder about people that start these types of threads if they actually get any music done. This is about as useful as chefs comparing and trying to select which 'grain of salt' is best for the dish, and not the salt itself.

[Omega Arts]

Go record something meaningful and you don't have to be concerned about this BS.
You can make a great recording on 8 track tapes if you got the stuff. For real!

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[projektk]

lol these threads should stop, worse than Mac vs PC threads or Intel vs AMD threads. maybe I should do my voice into my AT2020 mic compared to my voice->cup->string->cup into my AT2020 mic, now that's an interesting discussion.

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[Omega Arts]

If you give me a great song and a great artist you can can record a hit live on one track with a Radio Shack mic. How did we get so removed from reality?

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[chk23]

Originally Posted by projektk

lol these threads should stop, worse than Mac vs PC threads or Intel vs AMD threads. maybe I should do my voice into my AT2020 mic compared to my voice->cup->string->cup into my AT2020 mic, now that's an interesting discussion.

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Great idea, make sure to take the right cups. I always found those cheap IKEA cups sounding noisy and harsh.

[Omega Arts]

No recording technics or equipment can trump the right song, right artist, at the right time.
Have fun chasing the technology.

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[jrhager84]

Originally Posted by Omega Arts

No recording technics or equipment can trump the right song, right artist, at the right time.
Have fun chasing the technology.

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Is it bad that I lol'd at the irony?



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[Sudad G]

unless that DAW's "audio engine" is mushy, harsh or dull


then, no matter how good the man is, his tracks will be forced to come out mushy, harsh or dull

Tell me which DAW would really do that? Cubase, Logic and ProTools don't do that

Only if your soundcards or your A/Ds - D/As are very cheap or when the audio engineer is drunken

Sudad G

[chk23]

Originally Posted by Sudad G

Tell me which DAW would really do that? Cubase, Logic and ProTools don't do that

Only if your soundcards or your A/Ds - D/As are very cheap or when the audio engineer is drunken

Sudad G

He was being ironic...

[Atak]

"AND THEY ALL LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER THEE END".

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[pluginslut]

drunken

[joeq]

Originally Posted by chk23

He was being ironic...

yes,

just making the point that if you truly believe some DAWs "mess up" the sound, then the only logical conclusion is that it must affect all operators equally

it would be like having a bad tube in your expensive vocal microphone. No matter how carefully you place the mic in your treated room, it is going to crackle, sputter and hiss.

[FLYINGJAY]

Cubase can load projects with ease,just click the desired project and it will sound better!!!

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[evish]

Same synths
All pans in the center
All faders on 0db
No effects
No Clipping

Two files in 24/44.1

Cubase vs Logic

Fight!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3091620/Downloads/Test%202.zip

[chk23]

Originally Posted by evish

Same synths
All pans in the center
All faders on 0db
No effects
No Clipping

Two files in 24/44.1

Cubase vs Logic

Fight!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3091620/Downloads/Test%202.zip

You should have made this a blind test, now you will receive loads of confirmation biassed praising/savaging...

[evish]

Originally Posted by chk23

You should have made this a blind test, now you will receive loads of confirmation biassed praising/savaging...

We're big boys, You can do a null test, you can use your ears, you can here it in different places and take from it whatever you like, all I'm offering is the truth.

[stinkyfingers]

and you made sure that the synth you used will null with itself consistently so there is no variation from bounce to bounce...?

[Sensorychaos]

Originally Posted by Atak

Satson Sonimus takes Cubase to another level.

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and slate VCC brings it to heaven