Best sounding Reverb plug ins?

Reag1502 · 6th July 2006, 06:20 PM

How's it going guys. I have Cubase that I record with, but have yet to find a real nice sounding reverb to add to my recordings. Ive apparently got some good stuff like Waves Diamond Bundle, some Sony Stuff and a few other things, and they are just not doing it for me? It seems that everytime I add reverb to something it never gives the recordings any life like it should. Its always either way to much or nothing at all. The only one I ever liked was a Waves reverb that was on a older version of Cubase that I don't have anymore

Is it possible to install it with the new Cubase 3.0 version? If not are there any other plug ins that sound realistic to you? Thanks

AlphaDingo · 6th July 2006, 06:40 PM

UAD-1 EMI plate reverb. Best reverb ever.

sam c · 6th July 2006, 06:49 PM

Power Core VSS3

Waves IR1 V2

redroom · 6th July 2006, 07:15 PM

Another vote for the powercore VSS3

6strings · 6th July 2006, 07:21 PM

I have Cubase too, so I know what you mean about needing a reverb that doesn't sound like ass. The Altiverb demo floored me, so I got that even though it was a little above budget at the time.

SX 3 comes with Roomworks, which is okay on highest quality setting, but is actually more CPU intense than Altiverb. I like the sampled rooms in Altiverb much better too.

PS. I have a UAD-1 as well, but never got the Plate 140 'cause there are several Plate IRs with Altiverb. And I prefer the room/hall samples anyway...

Blenn · 6th July 2006, 07:28 PM

Uad-1 Plate 140,
VSS3, DVR2, Non-Lin
Wizoo W5

Dont need anything else.

Paul

T_R_S · 6th July 2006, 07:29 PM

I have been using McDSP Revolver... it rocks IMO

primalsteve · 6th July 2006, 07:35 PM

I use SIR which I love. It's of course all about the samples at that point and the 960L samples from noisevault blow me away. A few months back I mixed a song and used a 960L for the AC GTR, and Vocal. I had to recall the mix a few months later and was floored at how right on the same preset was with the original 960L. In some ways I swear it sounded better.

Steve

Lagerfeldt · 6th July 2006, 07:39 PM

A lot of people are mentioning UAD or PowerCore plug-ins. I don't see you mentioning that you have either UAD or PowerCore (you did mention the Sony stuff, which are available on PowerCore or TDM though).

Also you are requesting "life" from the reverb. In that case I will recommend you checking out the IK Multimedia CSR - Classik Studio Reverb, which is a native (VST or AU) plug-in.

Very high quality, warmth and width. Lexicon-a-like sound for a fraction of the price on some presets. Very flexible interface and great control unlike convolution reverbs, and far more life due to the modulation possibilities.

I like to have full control over dispersion, build-up and reflections in order to add depth or fatten - or thin out - the reverb. It also has some very nice macros for "morphing" between parameters/setups.

I have a TC M3000 reverb (with the acclaimed VSS3 algorithm) and some other reverbs (M-One XL, Waves TrueVerb, SpaceDesigner, Ambience, etc.), but I really like the sound of the CSR, and feel it adds something to my arsenal that I was missing previously.

Reag1502 · 6th July 2006, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6strings

I have Cubase too, so I know what you mean about needing a reverb that doesn't sound like ass. The Altiverb demo floored me, so I got that even though it was a little above budget at the time.

SX 3 comes with Roomworks, which is okay on highest quality setting, but is actually more CPU intense than Altiverb. I like the sampled rooms in Altiverb much better too.

PS. I have a UAD-1 as well, but never got the Plate 140 'cause there are several Plate IRs with Altiverb. And I prefer the room/hall samples anyway...

Yeah I have that Roomworks too. Its not bad, but its also not great I.M.H.O. There is one preset on there though thats really a delay or echo? Can't remember the name of it, but its sounds pretty good. I use it on vocals a lot to give it some width and space, as well as guitars. It kind of reminds me of the echo Perry Ferrel uses on his voice a lot of times.

montanasan · 6th July 2006, 09:14 PM

VSS3 for me too. I have it on the Powercore.

Reag1502 · 6th July 2006, 09:19 PM

I just checked out samples of the new Eventide reverb plug ins and those sounded amazing. To bad you can only run it with Pro Tools and not Cubase.

6strings · 6th July 2006, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reag1502

Yeah I have that Roomworks too. Its not bad, but its also not great I.M.H.O.

I actually used it a little when it was called Ambience (Roomworks is basically a re-branded version of Ambience for Cubase SX). It was one of the verbs I A/B'd the Altiverb demo against. No comparison really. I forget what the other verbs were, but I had all available demos at the time (some were for pretty expensive plugs too)... It was when Altiverb was the only convolution verb out and it made everything else sound like hissy 8 bit digital in comparison. Now there are other convolution choices of course, but you gotta go with who has the better IR files. Grab some demos and a/b for a bit...

PS. Comparisons to Altiverb aside, I found Ambience okay sounding, but it was a CPU hog and would crash Cubase quite frequently...

sam c · 6th July 2006, 09:45 PM

Quote:

A lot of people are mentioning UAD or PowerCore plug-ins. I don't see you mentioning that you have either UAD or PowerCore (you did mention the Sony stuff, which are available on PowerCore or TDM though).

I made an assumption that since I mentioned VSS3 it would be obvious I have TC PowerCore? If not, sorry,..... but I do have the new PCI MKII. The VSS3 was my first addition to the card and I still think the best plug verb available!

I have not tried the Sony verb.

junior · 6th July 2006, 11:38 PM

waves ir-1

if you have a pc, have a look at princeton digital's reverbs:
http://princetondigital.com/

david1103 · 7th July 2006, 12:35 AM

Does nobody like arts acoustic reverb?

http://www.artsacoustic.com/

It has the modulation that IR reverb can't do, sounds very good to me.

MUCH better than waves rverb in my opinion... not too much CPU use. Has the best interface and control of parameters I have seen on a reverb!

Anyone else tried this one?

pingu · 7th July 2006, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david1103

Does nobody like arts acoustic reverb?

http://www.artsacoustic.com/

It has the modulation that IR reverb can't do, sounds very good to me.

MUCH better than waves rverb in my opinion... not too much CPU use. Has the best interface and control of parameters I have seen on a reverb!

Anyone else tried this one?

I agree with what you just said.

But i recently finished a mix and swapped the main reverb with W2 and the stereo field felt so much warmer.

HDIR.

My fav at the moment is W2

jdjustice · 7th July 2006, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingu

My fav at the moment is W2

Where is a good place to buy the Wizoo?? (online)?? Can you demo it first??

I know you can get it from the Digi Store but that's at full price.... it's not at Sweetwater...

Thanks

J.D.

upscaps · 7th July 2006, 02:10 AM

wizzoo w2 and princeton 2016 r not bad at all. use them w/ my samp 8 system.

by-tor · 7th July 2006, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_R_S

I have been using McDSP Revolver... it rocks IMO

YUP!!!

upscaps · 7th July 2006, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_R_S

I have been using McDSP Revolver... it rocks IMO

he's using cubase. no mcdsp

Saudade · 7th July 2006, 02:18 PM

I have played with TC System 6000 (some Hall of Fame presets) and the 480L. I have heard Altiverb, Wizoo W2 and Waves IR-2 stuff. I am using SIR and free IRs of various hardware boxes etc contributed by various kind souls online.

Most of these sound arguably richer, more detailed and dense. They sound really PRO when I solo the source with the verb.

Until when I start trying to put them to the context of the song.

I find it very hard to find the right levels to make the reverb "sit" in the mix, plate/hall/room/chamber types regardless.

But since I have started using Spinaudio Roomverb M2 for 6mths or more. I have never spent more than 10 minutes finding a preset that just magically sits in the mix so unbelievably well. And I noticed I can up the reverb level much more when I want to without muddying up too much, and I can down the level much more too and yet still have that "can't really hear it when it's on but notice it when it's gone" effect.

The most understated, unhyped and unglamourous quality reverb plugin IMO

Joseph Hanna · 8th July 2006, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

I have a TC M3000 reverb (with the acclaimed VSS3 algorithm) and some other reverbs (M-One XL, Waves TrueVerb, SpaceDesigner, Ambience, etc.), but I really like the sound of the CSR, and feel it adds something to my arsenal that I was missing previously.

Hey Lagerfeldt,

The M3000 is one of, if not my single favorite reverb boxes. Are you saying CSR verbs are similar. If so I'm off today to buy it.

Are you sure it's sonically similar????

True North · 8th July 2006, 08:14 PM

I really liked both of the Convolution verbs that I tried, wizooverb and Ir1

I currently own the Ir1

Other than that the UAD reverbs are outstanding. Everyone mentions that Plate which is of course great but often overlooked is the Real Verb and the Dream Verb.

I find that with the exception of Convolution reverb plugs, unless there is some external or PCI DSP power involved most of the reverbs plugs are pretty bad at least compared to hardware. I can usually here in the tails.

I have never heard the Sony reverb but I understand that they did a pretty good job on that one.

Rocket boy · 8th July 2006, 10:19 PM

I just started using SIR and I like it. Uses a lot of resources on a pretty fast computer compared to the not-so-great N-Track reverb I was using but sounds better and is much more versatile.

Lagerfeldt · 8th July 2006, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Hanna

Hey Lagerfeldt,

The M3000 is one of, if not my single favorite reverb boxes. Are you saying CSR verbs are similar. If so I'm off today to buy it.

Are you sure it's sonically similar????

No, they are not similar. They are quite different. The CSR sounds closer to some of the Lexicon reverbs though.

mixerguy · 9th July 2006, 01:20 AM

altiverb 5

sdelsolray · 9th July 2006, 05:34 PM

Ditto.

jdjustice · 9th July 2006, 05:38 PM

Altiverb +1
Sony Oxford Reverb (not convolution but excellent and highly "tweakable")

Bhang · 9th July 2006, 07:13 PM

Altiverb 5
I do love the TC reverbs as well. Very clean and transparent ( m3000)

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6th July 2006, 06:20 PM	#1
Reag1502 Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: overlooking the pacific ocean Posts: 367	Best sounding Reverb plug ins? How's it going guys. I have Cubase that I record with, but have yet to find a real nice sounding reverb to add to my recordings. Ive apparently got some good stuff like Waves Diamond Bundle, some Sony Stuff and a few other things, and they are just not doing it for me? It seems that everytime I add reverb to something it never gives the recordings any life like it should. Its always either way to much or nothing at all. The only one I ever liked was a Waves reverb that was on a older version of Cubase that I don't have anymore Is it possible to install it with the new Cubase 3.0 version? If not are there any other plug ins that sound realistic to you? Thanks

6th July 2006, 07:29 PM	#7
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6th July 2006, 07:39 PM	#9
Lagerfeldt Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,573	A lot of people are mentioning UAD or PowerCore plug-ins. I don't see you mentioning that you have either UAD or PowerCore (you did mention the Sony stuff, which are available on PowerCore or TDM though). Also you are requesting "life" from the reverb. In that case I will recommend you checking out the IK Multimedia CSR - Classik Studio Reverb, which is a native (VST or AU) plug-in. Very high quality, warmth and width. Lexicon-a-like sound for a fraction of the price on some presets. Very flexible interface and great control unlike convolution reverbs, and far more life due to the modulation possibilities. I like to have full control over dispersion, build-up and reflections in order to add depth or fatten - or thin out - the reverb. It also has some very nice macros for "morphing" between parameters/setups. I have a TC M3000 reverb (with the acclaimed VSS3 algorithm) and some other reverbs (M-One XL, Waves TrueVerb, SpaceDesigner, Ambience, etc.), but I really like the sound of the CSR, and feel it adds something to my arsenal that I was missing previously. __________________ Producer & engineer Apple Certified Trainer in Logic Pro Popmusic.dk Production Hit Kit V3 Sample CD Urban & Electronic Beat Production - used on Billboard #1 hits (recently on: Katy Perry, Britney, Usher, Jordin Sparks, Leona Lewis, Sugababes, The Pussycat Dolls)

6th July 2006, 11:38 PM	#15
junior Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 956	waves ir-1 if you have a pc, have a look at princeton digital's reverbs: http://princetondigital.com/ __________________ "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep"... --Scott Adams

6th July 2006, 06:40 PM	#2
AlphaDingo Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 489	UAD-1 EMI plate reverb. Best reverb ever.

6th July 2006, 06:49 PM	#3
sam c Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 170	Power Core VSS3 Waves IR1 V2

6th July 2006, 07:15 PM	#4
redroom Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,169	Another vote for the powercore VSS3

6th July 2006, 07:21 PM	#5
6strings Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New England Posts: 1,047	I have Cubase too, so I know what you mean about needing a reverb that doesn't sound like ass. The Altiverb demo floored me, so I got that even though it was a little above budget at the time. SX 3 comes with Roomworks, which is okay on highest quality setting, but is actually more CPU intense than Altiverb. I like the sampled rooms in Altiverb much better too. PS. I have a UAD-1 as well, but never got the Plate 140 'cause there are several Plate IRs with Altiverb. And I prefer the room/hall samples anyway...

6th July 2006, 07:28 PM	#6
Blenn Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 413	Uad-1 Plate 140, VSS3, DVR2, Non-Lin Wizoo W5 Dont need anything else. Paul

6th July 2006, 07:35 PM	#8
primalsteve Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 152	I use SIR which I love. It's of course all about the samples at that point and the 960L samples from noisevault blow me away. A few months back I mixed a song and used a 960L for the AC GTR, and Vocal. I had to recall the mix a few months later and was floored at how right on the same preset was with the original 960L. In some ways I swear it sounded better. Steve

6th July 2006, 09:14 PM	#11
montanasan Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Coast of Scotland Posts: 276	VSS3 for me too. I have it on the Powercore.

6th July 2006, 09:19 PM	#12
Reag1502 Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: overlooking the pacific ocean Posts: 367	I just checked out samples of the new Eventide reverb plug ins and those sounded amazing. To bad you can only run it with Pro Tools and not Cubase.

7th July 2006, 12:35 AM	#16
david1103 Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brighton UK Posts: 48	Does nobody like arts acoustic reverb? http://www.artsacoustic.com/ It has the modulation that IR reverb can't do, sounds very good to me. MUCH better than waves rverb in my opinion... not too much CPU use. Has the best interface and control of parameters I have seen on a reverb! Anyone else tried this one?

7th July 2006, 02:10 AM	#19
upscaps Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 277	wizzoo w2 and princeton 2016 r not bad at all. use them w/ my samp 8 system.

7th July 2006, 02:18 PM	#22
Saudade Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birthplace of the Soundblaster Posts: 376	I have played with TC System 6000 (some Hall of Fame presets) and the 480L. I have heard Altiverb, Wizoo W2 and Waves IR-2 stuff. I am using SIR and free IRs of various hardware boxes etc contributed by various kind souls online. Most of these sound arguably richer, more detailed and dense. They sound really PRO when I solo the source with the verb. Until when I start trying to put them to the context of the song. I find it very hard to find the right levels to make the reverb "sit" in the mix, plate/hall/room/chamber types regardless. But since I have started using Spinaudio Roomverb M2 for 6mths or more. I have never spent more than 10 minutes finding a preset that just magically sits in the mix so unbelievably well. And I noticed I can up the reverb level much more when I want to without muddying up too much, and I can down the level much more too and yet still have that "can't really hear it when it's on but notice it when it's gone" effect. The most understated, unhyped and unglamourous quality reverb plugin IMO

8th July 2006, 08:14 PM	#24
True North Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Richmond Hill, Ontario (Canada) Posts: 2,478	I really liked both of the Convolution verbs that I tried, wizooverb and Ir1 I currently own the Ir1 Other than that the UAD reverbs are outstanding. Everyone mentions that Plate which is of course great but often overlooked is the Real Verb and the Dream Verb. I find that with the exception of Convolution reverb plugs, unless there is some external or PCI DSP power involved most of the reverbs plugs are pretty bad at least compared to hardware. I can usually here in the tails. I have never heard the Sony reverb but I understand that they did a pretty good job on that one. __________________ "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey" - Beck, Loser "I do use compressors/limiters but not for controlling dynamics, I use EQ for that!" Jp22 (damn I miss him) "Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." -- Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) "I try to get a boom out of the bass drum, in one of my albums, my CD, boom, I try to get that big boom, I could not get a big boom, I paid bucks, and could not get the boom" - Recording Expert, Tad Donley

8th July 2006, 10:19 PM	#25
Rocket boy Gear Head Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 39	I just started using SIR and I like it. Uses a lot of resources on a pretty fast computer compared to the not-so-great N-Track reverb I was using but sounds better and is much more versatile.

9th July 2006, 01:20 AM	#27
mixerguy Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,016	altiverb 5

9th July 2006, 05:34 PM	#28
sdelsolray Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 416	Ditto.

9th July 2006, 05:38 PM	#29
jdjustice Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,261	Altiverb +1 Sony Oxford Reverb (not convolution but excellent and highly "tweakable") __________________ jdjustice.net

9th July 2006, 07:13 PM	#30
Bhang Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 395	Altiverb 5 I do love the TC reverbs as well. Very clean and transparent ( m3000) __________________ Gear FreQ

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