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Best DAW/Audio Interface for $1500

Hey Slutz! Greetings from Texas. Making my first post to your forum.

Ready to retire my BOSS digital recorder and move into laptop recording and would love some help spending $1500.

Gear: Moog LP, Virus Ti2, Blofeld keyboard, Triton Studio, Eventide Space, Pigtronix Echolution, M Audio SP-5B monitors, Lenovo Thinkpad T410 w/ Intel i7/firewire 400/eSATA ports.

Music: ambient/space/experimental/classical

Learning curve: I have no children, a very supportive wife and plenty of time to get familiar with a set-up.

Looking for recommendations on audio interface and DAW. No instruments or voices to record...only the synths/effects pedals. Portability is not a concern. A professional demo is the goal.

Been considering the usual suspects...PT10, Steinberg, MBox, MOTU, etc. Sweetwater rep recommended the PT10/MBox Pro bundle but any suggestions would mean a lot. Thanks!

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Metric Halo ULN-2. It's on sale through tomorrow. If you need more than two inputs, the 2882 is also very good. Mac only. It's much more than an interface as it also includes an 80 bit summing bus, plugins, etc.

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Metric Halo ULN-2. Hands down leader in that range.

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I'm tied down to windows for now, but I appreciate the quick responses. Is there a PC equivalent?

Side note: Need interface and DAW to come in under $1500 together. Thanks, guys.
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I'm tied down to windows for now, but I appreciate the quick responses. Is there a PC equivalent?

Side note: Need interface and DAW to come in under $1500 together. Thanks, guys.
RME Fireface UC for about $1,300 + Reaper $60
If you don't need to record more than two channels of audio at the same time, you can save some money and get RME Babyface for about $700. The sound quality and the excellent drivers are the same.


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RME Fireface UCX for small and portable. Really... it doesn't get much better. Especially for the price. And the drivers are excellent and super stable.

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I got a friend with same desire as you the RME UC and he is dead happy.

The RME pres are very good for an interface , convertors great and It is stable and works well under windows Win 7 commercial edition which has been stripped of all bloat and extra processes

In my setup I use the larger UFX in addition to 8 channels Apogee.

I use Apogee as master clock for mine. and monitor through Apogee too.

I have used the RME pres which are going through the interface itself for A/D not the Apogee on my own recordings and this is a great sound.

Not as good as Great River or Sebatron via Apogee of course but they are still clean, full and professional.

Any of the new range of RME is a good choice
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well, the audio interface just needs half a dozen inputs, you should be able to get one for around $500.
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Do you need all those synths plugged in at the same time?


The best DAW is Ableton Live, you could buy Sampler as well for that price.
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You should check a MOTU/Digital Performer combo. Integration like nowhere else, realtime (near zero latency) monitoring with fx while tracking, monitoring reflects the mix's settings, and so on..
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For daw try out all of them, or at least a bunch: Reaper, Ableton Live, Studio one, Cubase.
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Welcome to the forum. Very happy with my RME UC/ Reaper/ Macbook Pro. Super sable, excellent conversion. I have a nice selection of mic pres that I usually reach for instead of the ones built in to the RME, but the RME pres are clean, quiet, have adequate gain and are perfectly usable. All in all, I'd have to sat the RME is one of the better buys I've made.
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Great suggestions, guys.

No, I don't really need all my synths plugged in at the same time...actually, I really just need two line level inputs, two outs for monitors and a headphone in.

Was looking at the TC Konnekt 6 but I'm concerned about compatibility issues with Windows 7 64 bit.

Babyface seems very interesting. I understand it's USB only. Could there be latency?

Any slutz have experience with the MOTU 16 channel?

Again, thanks for all of the replies.

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Ok...looking at RME products now. Great call on RME.

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Great suggestions, guys.

No, I don't really need all my synths plugged in at the same time...actually, I really just need two line level inputs, two outs for monitors and a headphone in.

Was looking at the TC Konnekt 6 but I'm concerned about compatibility issues with Windows 7 64 bit.

Babyface seems very interesting. I understand it's USB only. Could there be latency?

Any slutz have experience with the MOTU 16 channel?

Again, thanks for all of the replies.
I have the dekstop konnekt 6 and its the best audio interface I have use don win7 64 bit running 32 bit cubase 6.5.4... rock solid never had a crash or audio drop! My old interfaces were m audio pro something and the motu lite... konnekt 6 kills them both in sound and desktop function... the only diff from you is i do not record in at all.
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Great suggestions, guys.
Babyface seems very interesting. I understand it's USB only. Could there be latency?
Babyface has superb latency figures, comparable to any FW interface. If you don't need more than two audio inputs, it's a no brainer (*) Plus it's bus-powered (unlike the other RME interfaces mentioned), which means no hassle if you use it outside with a laptop.

(*) Consider that it has an ADAT port and the inputs can be expanded via multiple-preamp unit, in case later you change mind about having only two inputs.
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Great suggestions, guys.

No, I don't really need all my synths plugged in at the same time...actually, I really just need two line level inputs, two outs for monitors and a headphone in.

Was looking at the TC Konnekt 6 but I'm concerned about compatibility issues with Windows 7 64 bit.

Babyface seems very interesting. I understand it's USB only. Could there be latency?

Any slutz have experience with the MOTU 16 channel?

Again, thanks for all of the replies.
MOTU 16 does not have good Windows drivers and the conversion and pres are not as good as the Babyface. I wouldn't get it. Get the Babyface, it is a great option.

As for DAW, I like Studio One, however, I also think Reaper is a great DAW. For electronic music, I hear Ableton is quite good, but it is also expensive.

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All right, it's gonna be a babyface/reaper combo with enough $$ left over for an ext. hard drive and MAYBE a moogerfooger to boot. Sorry, I'm not taking suggestions on the left over funds!

I appreciate every reply. Thanks, Slutz.
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good choices. I hope you enjoy your new set up. check out groove3.com for reaper tutorials also there is a YouTube channel that has free tutorials. the software is pretty basic but can do a lot if you learn all of the keyboard short cuts.

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Great suggestions, guys.

No, I don't really need all my synths plugged in at the same time...actually, I really just need two line level inputs, two outs for monitors and a headphone in.

Was looking at the TC Konnekt 6 but I'm concerned about compatibility issues with Windows 7 64 bit.

Babyface seems very interesting. I understand it's USB only. Could there be latency?

Any slutz have experience with the MOTU 16 channel?

Again, thanks for all of the replies.
I had a TC, it was nice but it broke or something early on, there was some issue with it anyway, so I got the Audio Kontrol. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't get a TC. I don't know about compatibility. Ask the manufacturer.
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I appreciate that you get what you pay for with audio interfaces, but I must point out that the same can be said for DAWs too. I'm not disputing that Reaper is great value, but it's not even a kid brother to Live, more like a baby brother.

What is the difference in latency between a Babyface and something cheaper anyway?

It seems very odd to get an expensive interface and a DAW that is mainly for audio and very basic in terms of it's effects and features for someone using Midi.

When I went from Reaper/Reason to Live it was like getting off a moped and getting into a Porsche.
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Having heard from massergy a bit about the way he works, which is more or less using the DAW as a tape recorder, I think he has made the right choice actually in this instance. Reaper is certainly good for recording.
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I appreciate that you get what you pay for with audio interfaces, but I must point out that the same can be said for DAWs too. I'm not disputing that Reaper is great value, but it's not even a kid brother to Live, more like a baby brother.
Really depends on what you're doing doesn't it? FOR YOU this might be the case...for someone else, it might not be.
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running my konnekt 6 with cubase no issues in 2 years
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You cannot go wrong with RME. I've never had any type of problem whatsoever with their stuff.
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I don't know the last thing about interfaces (I seem to forget that after two interfaces that are just awful and useless), but Ableton Live suite is a great DAW. I HIGHLY recommend it.
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Anything MOTU is hghly recommended, sound quality-, compability- and future proof wise... AND warranty wise..
Check out the quality tests here and elsewhere.
MOTU scores no 1. This means both audio interfaces and Digital Performer (DAW).

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MOTU 16 does not have good Windows drivers and the conversion and pres are not as good as the Babyface. I wouldn't get it. Get the Babyface, it is a great option.

As for DAW, I like Studio One, however, I also think Reaper is a great DAW. For electronic music, I hear Ableton is quite good, but it is also expensive.

Good Luck!

LOL.. sorry, but I can´t stop myself now, I need to speak up. Product Police talking:

The MOTU 16 tracks and many other MOTU interfaces like the Ultralite, 24 I/O. 2408MK3, 828MK3 etc, do all top sound quality tests done by the pros. (like; the Swedish radio broadcast company did a large quality and audio test and ended up buying hundereds of MOTU Ultralite interfaces.)
Google it and you get some nice results of similar tests.

Got that straightened out now. Phew..
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Anything MOTU is hghly recommended, sound quality-, compability- and future proof wise... AND warranty wise..
Check out the quality tests here and elsewhere.
MOTU scores no 1. This means both audio interfaces and Digital Performer (DAW).

MOTU.com - Welcome to MOTU Audio
I agree with all this^ I would get a MOTU interface and DP 8. DP is one THE best DAWs out there, their interfaces are excellent, and for the stuff you do it's perfect.
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