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Old 6th September 2012   #1
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iTunes and ProTools out with Avid Omni

Hey guys, this is my first post here. I left Line 6 back in May to be a full time engineer if any of you are wondering why I am posting a mix question.

I have a room in Burbank and outfitted my room with an HD Native card and Avid Omni interface.

I want to bring my computer output into the Omni for listening to YouTube or a DVD for mix comparison type things. For instance, I am mixing an indie movie and want to be able to listen to a DVD of a similar movie while staying in ProTools and not having to shut down PT to use Core Audio.

I have an Optical cord hooked up and also I am not using analog inputs 3-4.

Any ideas would be much appreciated.
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Are you familiar with how the mixer function of the Omni works? That would be the most convenient way. It's explained in the manual, but I'd be happy to elaborate if you have any specific questions.
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Elaborating would rock. Or if you can give me the page number in the manual that would be great.
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Also, let me be a bit more clear. Been reading the mixer capabilities. Still need help. Here is a more specific question. I am using the S/PDIF RCA jacks to route my POD HD to add it as an insert on a session for effects. Can I run the optical out of my computer to the optical in on the OMNI and use the mixer for the OMNI to route the sound to my monitors?
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Also, let me be a bit more clear. Been reading the mixer capabilities. Still need help. Here is a more specific question. I am using the S/PDIF RCA jacks to route my POD HD to add it as an insert on a session for effects. Can I run the optical out of my computer to the optical in on the OMNI and use the mixer for the OMNI to route the sound to my monitors?
I route the S/PDIF out of my computer and back into the OMNI and then route out to my monitors. You can then complete the routing within the hardware page of interface by monitoring the optical input.
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I route the S/PDIF out of my computer and back into the OMNI and then route out to my monitors. You can then complete the routing within the hardware page of interface by monitoring the optical input.
Yup, I did that, just not sure how to route it on the hardware page of the interface, seems like I can either AES/EBU, S/PDIF or Optical for Digital out 1-2 but not S/PDIF and Optical at the same time, correct?
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Yup, I did that, just not sure how to route it on the hardware page of the interface, seems like I can either AES/EBU, S/PDIF or Optical for Digital out 1-2 but not S/PDIF and Optical at the same time, correct?
I am not sure why you want the inputs to go to the digital outs? Is your digital out used for your monitors? How are your monitors configured?

In my case I have analog outs 1-2 for monitors (or maybe its 7-8)... regardless on the mixer I have my S/PDIF input on 5-6 and have the monitor buttons engaged and the volume faders up. The output is automatically routed through to my monitors (A1-2)... read pages 27-34 of the omni manual, .

I configure from with Pro Tools. It would be great if AVID could build a standalone app to configure the hardware... (or maybe someone knows a way...)
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jjnssn,

You do not need to open Protools to access the hardware setup tabs. You can just open the standalone Avid Core Audio Manager. In the bottom left there is a button that says HW Setup. Click on that and it will open up the same tabs as when you open hardware setup in Protools, allowing you to configure the Mixer, Monitor Path, etc.
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Richrenken,

You are correct in that the digital input is only 1 of 3 options at one time: AES, Spidf (the RCA/Coax jacks), or Optical Spidf.

After you've configured what you want in the mixer, your only real choice if you want to stay digital and have both things hooked up at the same time would be to go in the hardware setup, under the "main" tab, and click the button from spidf to optical spidf or vice versa, depending on what you want to hear. Kind of a pain though.

The other option would be to not try to use the digital out of your computer, but rather just the analog line out, into analog line in 3-4 of your Omni, and then keep your POD HD hooked up digitally.


Regardless of what you choose, the mixer function is pretty easy to use. It's just like a regular hardware mixer built into your Omni.

Assuming you're using stereo pairs, choose whichever stereo pair of inputs you want (you can choose more than one), and click on the "MON" button for each channel of the stereo pair, both left and right. Also click the "HP" button to hear stuff through the headphones as well as your monitors.

VERY IMPORTANT: Make sure that the Pan sliders at the top are panned all the way to the left and right, respectively, if you want to hear your stereo sources in stereo. If you're using a mono source, like for example using the mixer function to plug in a bass guitar to the DI of channel 1 just to play without opening Protools, then you may want to keep the Pan slider in the center, so it will come through in the center just like it was a mono track in Protools panned to the center.

So in your scenario, by enabling various channels in the mixer tab, you could have your computer analog line out to analog 3-4, and your POD HD into the digital in, and bass or guitar plugged into channel 1, and you could hear them all at any time, in fact all at the same time, whether Protools is open or not. You could even have your computer shut off and the Omni disconnected from the HD Native card, and still hear them through the Omni and your monitors, just like a hardware mixer.


Lastly, at the bottom of the mixer tab it says "record/input monitor enable", and gives a choice of "Mutes Mixer Input" or "Ignore (manually manage mutes)".

You will most likely want to choose "Mutes Mixer Input", that way when you go to record with your POD HD, and record enable it, or click input monitoring, you'll just hear it the normal way coming through Protools, at whatever buffer setting you've chosen. Otherwise, you might hear both the signal going through Protools and the same signal coming direct through the mixer function, and be hearing the same thing twice, slightly off in timing.
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Thank you my brothers. I was thinking that I would have to just bring it into the analog in 3-4.
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Know this is an old thread but I just ran into the issue where after updating firmware I couldn't get the SPDIF to route out 1-2. After the initial reboot and setting everything up in the software mixer I had to reboot the omni again and then it worked fine. Took me far too long to figure it out though.
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