retina MBP - Serious issues.

[undertone]

Originally Posted by Drumslut

Anyway, if I were you, and needed to work NOW, I would try to fix the old Snow Leopard computer, by replacing either the hard drive, the fans, or both, until the problem with the new system was solved.

+1. If your system is operational, then it's probably one of the fans. I changed mine myself in a 2007 MBP, and while I was in there, upgraded the HDD. If you're not mechanically inclined contact a mac repair shop: it's a pretty routine fix and they probably can get it done quickly. They might have to order the fan though.

Originally Posted by Drumslut

And cloning you system to the new drive is a breeze with Time Machine.

-1. I once did this and it took FOREVER! It's much faster to clone a drive using SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner. If your disk is still working, you can also use OS X's built-in Disk Utility.

[dcrigger]

MilesSmiles - regarding the new machine and Logic (not up on DP these days), I don't think you mentioned which version of Logic you were running. I just set-up a new Macmini for someone (which means Mountain Lion) and it didn't Logic 9.1.7 at all - yet seems to be running fine with 9.1.6

And poking around here and over at LogicProHelp reveal lots of folks not finding the love with either Lion or Mountain Lion and 9.1.7 (of course, there are many who are clipping along great with those combos). Anyway I'm running Logic 9.1.6 on Lion 10.7.2 on one machine and 10.7.3 on another with no problems to speak of.

Sorry I just reread your first post, so yeah I would really suggest trying rolling Logic back to 9.1.6 on the Retina and see if that helps.

David

[MilesSmiles]

Originally Posted by Dysanfel

How does a SSD drive on a rMBP "grind"? There are no moving parts. Sounds to me more like a fan issue.

once again, my old computer is making the grinding sound, and that's why i switched to the retina display MBP. (which is easily the quietest computer I've ever worked with.)

[MilesSmiles]

Originally Posted by Joe Porto

Doing this will reserve a processor for OS related tasks.

I tried this and it didn't seem to help.

However, I called apple and they told me how to do a clean reinstall of lion.

Several blogs and websites I looked at mislead me into thinking I needed a thumb drive or a way to burn a DVD of lion in order to do this, but all of those sites are dead wrong. I think that was the case when lion first came out, but not anymore.

The first thing I did when I finished the clean install was to install an NFR of Ableton live 8. (I worked at a major retailer and got all this shit for free. I'm really lucky) I have to say, Ableton runs flawlessly. No matter what I do, I can't get the CPU meter to spike and I don't hear any artifacts.

I'm kind of afraid to even bother installing logic again (and to the person who was asking, I was running 9.1.7, but I will try 9.1.6 if I do reinstall it)...I will have to install DP however since at least 95% of my projects were in DP. I will report back when i get around to reinstalling DP, but for now it appears my problem is sort of solved. (ableton has everything I need for my current gig).

Either I was running a DAW that hates my computer, or something was totally screwed up in my OS and doing a clean reinstall of Lion restored my performance. The latter seems hard to believe since the computer is only a month or two old. I'm also going to hold off on all the games and whatnot that I got from the app store...work is more important right now and anything I can do to keep this thing performing at tip-top, I will do.

Once again, I truly appreciate the help and suggestions from everyone. Thanks!

[Dysanfel]

Originally Posted by MilesSmiles

Unfortunately, I was dead wrong. Working with one audio track and NO plugins or aux busses in DP 7 or Logic 9.1.7, my CPU meters are hovering around 50%. This is crazy in and of itself, but I can live with it.

What was your results in the Logic Multicore Performance test? I have a rMBP 16gigs and 10.8.1. Maybe we can compare results? I will get back with my results soon.

I mostly use Ableton Live, that works great for me as well.

[valis]

I wouldn't expect just an installation of Logic to affect other apps, it really sounded to me like something else was wrong.

Someone in one of the current Logic threads did mention being irritated at the 'current ProKit issues' which i wonder about being related to some of the GUI slowdown that people experience with having heavily animated/graphical plugins open in Logic, but again this seems to suggest Logic has grown out of step with the graphical underpinnings of the OS and needs an update more than there being something that can affect other apps with the rMBP model specifically. Certainly apps from 3rd party devs (not Apple) won't rely on ProKit or Logic's underpinnings.

[Dysanfel]

Originally Posted by valis

but again this seems to suggest Logic has grown out of step with the graphical underpinnings of the OS and needs an update more than there being something that can affect other apps with the rMBP model specifically.

Thats strong conclusions from a small sample size of users. Then again, Logic is due for an update soon so maybe they are concentrating on Logic X?

EDIT: My Logic Multicore test gave me 93 tracks in Logic.

[skira]

Originally Posted by MilesSmiles

Now it's not under applecare but the same exact noise started again.

1) Every Mac comes with complimentary telephone technical support for 90 days from your Mac purchase and a one-year limited warranty. Your rMBP is so new (they were announced only this past June) it is under the original warranty, so bring it in. Or at least use your free phone-support.

2) AppleCare can be purchased at any time during coverage under the standard one-year limited warranty. So go get Applecare ASAP, before you forget, before it's too late. $349 is not cheap but if anything needs repair or replacement 1-2 years from now it will pay for itself.

[valis]

Originally Posted by Dysanfel

Thats strong conclusions from a small sample size of users. Then again, Logic is due for an update soon so maybe they are concentrating on Logic X?

Actually it's just based on compelling reports (and repeatable-as I tried it) that 'downgrading' ProKit to 7.0.0.0.1 (the last individually downloadable update, probably need Pacifist to install on Lion/ML) solves *all* the graphical issues, and downgrading to 7.2.2 (the Lion version) if you're on ML at least solves most of them and doesn't break FCX 10.0.5 compatibility as 7.0.0.0.1 does. Unfortunately I have FCX installed so I'm sticking with the Lion version, but I did verify that 7.0.0.0.1 worked before I discovered FCX was affected and re-applied the Lion 10.7.4 updated to put 7.2.2 back in place...

[MilesSmiles]

Originally Posted by skira

1) Every Mac comes with complimentary telephone technical support for 90 days from your Mac purchase and a one-year limited warranty. Your rMBP is so new (they were announced only this past June) it is under the original warranty, so bring it in. Or at least use your free phone-support.

2) AppleCare can be purchased at any time during coverage under the standard one-year limited warranty. So go get Applecare ASAP, before you forget, before it's too late. $349 is not cheap but if anything needs repair or replacement 1-2 years from now it will pay for itself.

I'm getting really sick of people responding to threads they haven't read. for thr fourteenth time, MY OLD MPB WAS MAKING NOISE, AND THAT IS WHY I BOUGHT A NEW RETINA DISPLAY ONE. PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING.

[MilesSmiles]

Originally Posted by Dysanfel

What was your results in the Logic Multicore Performance test? I have a rMBP 16gigs and 10.8.1. Maybe we can compare results? I will get back with my results soon.

I mostly use Ableton Live, that works great for me as well.

To be honest, i'm not even going to bother reinstalling logic since ableton is working so well. I've already had too much downtime worrying about all this and doing reinstalls and whatnot. Ableton is the way to go!