2nd September 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Paradise City
Posts: 143
Thread Starter | Moving files from Cubase to Pro Tools.
Hey guys, I've just finished recording an album for a local band and it's now ready to go off to be mixed. The problem is, I use Cubase and he uses Pro Tools. I thought that I could just select every track and then go to 'Export Selected Tracks', but this exports everything (including scratched tracks) when all I want is each track as is in the DAW and ready for him to just drop into Pro Tools, in time.
Is there an easy way to do this that I'm missing, or do I have to just mute everything but one track and export them track at a time? Obviously if that's the only option I'll do it, but some of these songs are 150+ tracks long so it wouldn't be fun!
Cheers.
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2nd September 2012
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#2 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2011 Location: Brazil
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Over 150 tracks for a song?!
Oh I see, you're recording classical music, a whole orchestra 
Sorry I couldn't resist
Read cubase manual, I have no doubt there's a whole section about importing/exporting things.
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2nd September 2012
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#3 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Paradise City
Posts: 143
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It's classic metal and they are ridiculous when it comes to harmonies, both vocally and even more so with guitars. I don't at all envy the guy who has to mix it all, I might do one or two songs for fun but that's it, haha!
I'll have a look through the manual, don't know how I didn't think of that, thanks!
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2nd September 2012
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#4 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Paradise City
Posts: 143
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I'm beginning to think that what I want to do is impossible without a script, and having no internet where I'll be doing this makes that hard..
Tomorrow is going to suck!
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2nd September 2012
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#5 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia
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I'm not sure what the problem is - this is dead easy.
Go File >> Export >> Audio Mixdown. Deselect the tracks you don't want, set the left and right locators to the start and end, pick the file format and hit go.
This will export every track you've selected. "Audio mixdown" is a bit misleading, as you can export every individual track as well.
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2nd September 2012
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#6 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2011 Location: Brazil
Posts: 495
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Originally Posted by voxhumana I'm not sure what the problem is - this is dead easy.
Go File >> Export >> Audio Mixdown. Deselect the tracks you don't want, set the left and right locators to the start and end, pick the file format and hit go.
This will export every track you've selected. "Audio mixdown" is a bit misleading, as you can export every individual track as well. | Dead easy?
You want him to mixdown over 150 tracks for song?!
Life is too short
Do this way = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drRE8SANZcs |
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2nd September 2012
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#7 | | Crooks Hall Studio
Joined: Apr 2011 Location: UK
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Best way I've found to do it is to create a bit of silence at the beginning all tracks that don't start at zero. Then select everything and do Audio-> Bounce Selection. This will create new WAV files in the project folder that start at zero and should be named appropriately if you have the tracks named well in cubase. You can then just send him these and everything will work perfectly.
If you have trouble finding which files are the ones you just bounced then when you go into the audio folder to find them, sort by date created or similar and take the most recent files.
There might be a simpler way but I haven't found one yet
John
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2nd September 2012
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#8 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2011 Location: Brazil
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Originally Posted by Psythe There might be a simpler way but I haven't found one yet
John | Quote:
Originally Posted by Treva | |
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2nd September 2012
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Spokane, WA
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If im lazy then I set the left and right locator to include everything in the whole song. File-Export-Audio Mixdown, then select the little box that says 'Channel Batch Export'
Now you can select all the tracks individually, set a prefix and where you want to save all the tracks to and hit export.
But, if I want to be nice, or have some extra time, ill rearrange all my tracks by length. Like, a guitar track that goes from measure 1-100 will be at top, the little shaker sound that happens once at measure 23 will be at the bottom.
Then ill group them up and batch export them that way. 10 tracks with locators at 1-100. Next is a handful of tracks I can get with locators at 1-45, export those, so on and so on.
That way I dont end up with a super long wav file that only has audio at the beginning of the song then minutes of silence, they are only as long as they need to be. But they all start at the same left locator so anyone could drag everything to 0 and it all lines up, and they save some hard drive space.
EDIT: Think this only is available in Cubase 5 and up.
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2nd September 2012
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#10 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Germany
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try exporting to "omf" if the pro tools guys can import that. in earlier versions you needed to buy an extra plugin in pro tools for convert into omf. dunno how it is now. depends on his version i guess.
export mixdown isnt a good way as it adds all the plugs and volumes etc. i wouldnt want that for mixdown purposes. 
rolf
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2nd September 2012
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#11 | | Crooks Hall Studio
Joined: Apr 2011 Location: UK
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Yes I saw the video but it's an incredibly unwieldy way of exporting the audio. You end up with all the takes and parts that you don't need. The OP wants a way of exporting just the audio that is wanted for the mix (as far as I can tell)
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4th September 2012
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#12 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: London
Posts: 1,218
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Originally Posted by voxhumana I'm not sure what the problem is - this is dead easy.
Go File >> Export >> Audio Mixdown. Deselect the tracks you don't want, set the left and right locators to the start and end, pick the file format and hit go.
This will export every track you've selected. "Audio mixdown" is a bit misleading, as you can export every individual track as well. | As stated here it's very easy,I don't see what the problem is here unless you have a really old version of cubase.
MC
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4th September 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Spokane, WA
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Originally Posted by rolfie depends on his version i guess.
export mixdown isnt a good way as it adds all the plugs and volumes etc. i wouldnt want that for mixdown purposes. 
rolf |
Just bypass all the plugins, disable read if you have to, and reset all the faders to 0. That takes about 30 seconds, then batch export it all. Reload your project and get all your fader levels back.
Would help if we knew the version the guy is using. If its old, spend 30mins-hour and start exporting tracks, if its new, do it by the batch option, walk away and go make a sandwich. |
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4th September 2012
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#14 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Paradise City
Posts: 143
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by norbury brook As stated here it's very easy,I don't see what the problem is here unless you have a really old version of cubase.
MC
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk | The problem with that is I'm bouncing hundreds of individual files, it took me five hours to do four tracks yesterday, with eight left to go.
I'm running version 5!
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4th September 2012
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#15 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Paradise City
Posts: 143
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So, this is what I did for the last tracks, for anyone else who has the same problem!
First, I went through and renamed each track with a '1' in front of it. I then armed all the tracks and recorded about a second of silence on each one (there were 8 or so bars before the music began, so this was no issue). After that, I set my markers and bounced them all down. Thanks Psythe for the initial idea, worked a treat. Adding the number to each file name made it a bit easier again and I'd recommend anyone else to do that also!
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4th September 2012
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#16 | | Moderator
Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney via London
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Originally Posted by rolfie try exporting to "omf" if the pro tools guys can import that. in earlier versions you needed to buy an extra plugin in pro tools for convert into omf. dunno how it is now. depends on his version i guess.
export mixdown isnt a good way as it adds all the plugs and volumes etc. i wouldnt want that for mixdown purposes. 
rolf | And as a mixer, I wouldn't want an omf. Consolidated waves are a much better choice!
I don't use cubase, but even I managed to do this easily a few years ago on behalf of a client. It's not hard...
As for those judging 150+ tracks...time to join the real world guys, that's not unusual at all!
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4th September 2012
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#17 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2012 Location: Paris, France
Posts: 66
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Originally Posted by Psythe Yes I saw the video but it's an incredibly unwieldy way of exporting the audio. You end up with all the takes and parts that you don't need. The OP wants a way of exporting just the audio that is wanted for the mix (as far as I can tell) | This will be also ridiculous. You wont have any bounces and it only work 1 on 10 to ask protools to move the files to their original position (TC is indeed in the .bwf file, that's why you use this format). Useless for protools user, only the steinberg user can import the xml. Quote: |
try exporting to "omf" if the pro tools guys can import that
| Unfortunately, omf sucks from Cubase to PT since ever.
From recording to mixing, keeping the files untouched, there's no faster way as the one described by Psythe (you won't have to bypass any process)
For completely processed tracks, do as Jerrick said.
But for very large projects (ie movie soundtrack with 300+ tracks over nearly 2h timeline, dozen of busses etc.), the best i have to date is AATranslator. You'll have to "bounce" all effects and vsti in place first, then you'll be able to convert your session to a PT readable one, retaining all your fades and volumes. This will be the money well spent. Top notch people, top notch customer service, best converter software ever.
Nevertheless, if someone knows better ways to date, i would love to know. I'll have to go over this again this week-end and it depresses me in advance.
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4th September 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: London
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Originally Posted by flybeereligion The problem with that is I'm bouncing hundreds of individual files, it took me five hours to do four tracks yesterday, with eight left to go.
I'm running version 5! | you're not by any chance doing these one at a time are you? the batch export means they all get bounced as individual files at the same time, with a fast computer the difference between 50 and 150 tracks is negligible.
If you don't want everything as Stereo tracks you'll have to do it in two passes, one pass for mono tracks (check the mono box) and then one pass for all your stereo tracks (un-check mono box!!) even so it's very quick and simple.
MC
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4th September 2012
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#19 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Paradise City
Posts: 143
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I was doing them individually, yes! It was the only way I could figure out how to do it and still keep them all the right length. But as I said a couple of posts up, Psythe's way worked a treat!
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4th September 2012
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#20 | | Crooks Hall Studio
Joined: Apr 2011 Location: UK
Posts: 31
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Originally Posted by flybeereligion I was doing them individually, yes! It was the only way I could figure out how to do it and still keep them all the right length. But as I said a couple of posts up, Psythe's way worked a treat! | No problem  It doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere in steinberg's documentation which is a bit annoying. Took me a while to work out what to do when I found myself wanting to do this. I suppose they can't detail everything someone might want to do but it's a fairly common process.
John
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4th September 2012
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#21 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: London
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They'll export all at the same length as the time selection , so if you want to bounce the whole song from bar one just drag the time selection from bar one to the end of you song. Conversely,in the future if you want to bounce say a 4 bar drum loop just set your time selection around that and it will just give you a 4 bar audio bounce.
MC
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5th September 2012
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#22 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Paradise City
Posts: 143
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Not if you just want to 'bounce selection' it won't!
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5th September 2012
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#23 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: London
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We're talking about getting individual tracks exported for use in another saw here and using export audio batch function.
If you set your left locator at bar one and you right at bar fifty and then channel batch export you'll get all tracks exported fifty bars long which you can drop into any DAW.
The same process can be used for bouncing midi VI parts in a single pass, its a function I use every day.
MC
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7th September 2012
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#24 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jun 2009 Location: London, UK
Posts: 9
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Originally Posted by freudes Unfortunately, omf sucks from Cubase to PT since ever.
From recording to mixing, keeping the files untouched, there's no faster way as the one described by Psythe (you won't have to bypass any process)
For completely processed tracks, do as Jerrick said.
But for very large projects (ie movie soundtrack with 300+ tracks over nearly 2h timeline, dozen of busses etc.), the best i have to date is AATranslator. You'll have to "bounce" all effects and vsti in place first, then you'll be able to convert your session to a PT readable one, retaining all your fades and volumes. This will be the money well spent. Top notch people, top notch customer service, best converter software ever. | This is all spot on advice IMO. We, AATranslator will do a free translation from in this case I strongly suggest, Steinberg Track Archive XML to PT. Warning: Pro Tools compared to Cubase is very limited in what it can do. For more about this see our 'Conversion Guide' AATranslator
John AATranslator London
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7th September 2012
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#25 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jun 2009 Location: London, UK
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