Cubase 6 - 64bit- Freezes on close - Third system, same result

[andrew caramia]

Originally Posted by thehightenor

Andrew - re read my post!

I said I've never ever had a single freeze on shut down - I even underlined it LOL

Cubase always behaves perfectly for me .....

I'm totally confused by your reply.

When I said "maybe this is the problem" I was referring to the OP - suggesting he quits the Cubase project first and then Cubase 6 - which always works 100% of the time for me .... Re-reading my post that does appear fairly clear.

But hey, I appreciate you taking the time to reply, and your post can be used by anyone with this issue - so well done anyway.

Best
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Thanks for your comments.
I understand what you are saying however if i had that particular issue with cubase thats what i would do to get to the root of the problem. But thats just me....

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[Jeff Hayat]

Originally Posted by steve_sax

OK, try this:

From now on, instead of closing as usual, save the project, then make a change (drag a bit of audio or something), then go File -> Close and when it asks you whether you want to save changes, choose not to. The project will now close without hanging.

Love to see some feedback from ppl trying this, as it's basically fixed the hanging on close issue for me.....

That won't matter. Hitting the x on the top right of the app and using File -> Close are exactly the same thing. They call to the same function. Cubase hangs using the x; Cubase hangs using File -> Close.

[Jeff Hayat]

Originally Posted by DAW PLUS

Not wrong, I referred to this issue happening in our installations. Cubase itself does not hang. That does not exclude that other peripherals or configurations can cause this.

No - you were wrong. Cubase itself does hang. And not only for me.

Cheers.

[steve_sax]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hayat

That won't matter. Hitting the x on the top right of the app and using File -> Close are exactly the same thing. They call to the same function. Cubase hangs using the x; Cubase hangs using File -> Close.

My experience has been that following that series of steps greatly lessens the number of hangs I experience to a very small number.

Saving, then changing something, closing and choosing not to save is the important stuff here....

Try it, you might like it.

[Jeff Hayat]

Originally Posted by steve_sax

My experience has been that following that series of steps greatly lessens the number of hangs I experience to a very small number.

Saving, then changing something, closing and choosing not to save is the important stuff here....

Try it, you might like it.

I have tried it. Again, it doesn't matter - it calls to the same function. Choosing not to save - or to save - has nothing to do with anything either. The hang happens when no project is open - ie, when there is nothing to save, or not to save.

And you say it lessens the number of hangs you have. This proves it has nothing to do with how you shut down, as you still have hangs. The fact that you have less one way than the other is pure coincidence.

Cheers.

[steve_sax]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hayat

The fact that you have less one way than the other is pure coincidence.

Ummm, OK

[DAW PLUS]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hayat

No - you were wrong. Cubase itself does hang. And not only for me.

Cheers.

Ermmm... as stated, I have installed hundreds of Cubase systems, most of them with dozens of plugin bundles and hardware peripherals. NONE of these systems went out the door with Cubase hanging on quit.
So telling me I'm wrong is wrong.
It is some component, driver, plug, setting, whatever which is the culprit.
PS: I have a test system here stuffed with probably everything we have access to (which is a lot), and it does NOT hang or crash on quit. All 64 bit, some 32 bit plugs using VST Bridge, Abbey Road EMI bundle using Jbridge.

Whatever causes the hang on your system, is not simply just a Cubase thing. If you install Windows with all correct drivers, update, install Cubase, update, start, fresh project, quit, it hangs?
Or does it happen with projects created in older Cubase versions? That could cause such behaviour.

[Jeff Hayat]

Originally Posted by DAW PLUS

If you install Windows with all correct drivers, update, install Cubase, update, start, fresh project, quit, it hangs?.

Yes.

If I (and others):

Rename all plugs and VIs folders, and then do a rescan of MB so that Cubase sees nothing
Deselect my ASIO driver and physically remove the card from the motherboard (after shutdown, of course)
Disconnect my MIDI interface and uninstall the driver via the W7 ctrl panel
Disconnect all peripherals including my iLok (obviously leaving the dongle)
Shutdown and reboot
Launch Cubase without opening a project or creating a new one
Shut down Cubase

- and it hangs on exit, tell me how Cubase does not hang on it's own? Tell me how something else is causing the hang?

Cheers.

[DAW PLUS]

To be honest, I have no idea Jeff.
As stated, here we only find this issue with plugs.
Have you done any tweaks to the OS? What Windows version? What components are in your system? Feel free to send me an email.

[yourmajesty]

could it still be plugs if i close the project before closing cubase?

Also, for it usuallly happens when i have cubase running for a long time.. ie a few hours

for me i think it has something to do with my axiom pro...

[schmuck]

Originally Posted by yourmajesty

could it still be plugs if i close the project before closing cubase?

According to Steinberg Support, yes. Although this sounds a bit weird in my opinion. And in my case, it seems that it was also the driver of a midi interface (and it SEEMS the problem got worse when I had a mackie control hooked up via that specific midi interface...(?)).

When you remove devices like the keyboard, make sure you remove also all the drivers from your system. Again, according to Steinberg support.

[blacklion]

In my case, it was Microsoft C++ Runtime 2005 version 8.0.56336 which was installed with an m-audio midi/usb driver.

By itself it was ok but with certain plugins instantiated in the project, Cubase would hang on exit. I removed the driver and the runtime library and everything went back to normal.

[galway]

mine never closed properly in snow leopard, and now in osx, its worse now than ever,
and it has nothing to do with plugins or vst's by just making a simple audio track it will do it,
i will say if i quit cubase after a few mins it closes fine, but if i leave it on for over an hour then it never closes, i have to keep my finger on the power button! for a few mins,
(and they say technology has moved on) mmm

[pabloxl]

here blue screen crash closing cubase 6.5 and same random crash connecting external units or creating new in/out connections... this shit only after upgrade at the 6.5.3...

[Ciozzi]

Originally Posted by UnderTow

So long story short: It could be a plugin that isn't closing properly.

cubase unloads all the dll modules (plugins) when closing a project, before the shut down procedure, so it shouldn't be the plugins.