1st September 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jan 2009
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Thread Starter | Great electric lead guitar sound (no metal guitar) in a plugin: is there one ?
I know I know no electric guitar from software will sound like the real deal.
But I am after a useable great sounding alternative in a plugin.
I need no Ministry Of Sound trash metal guitar but a great universal lead guitar sound, good enough anyway to have a convincing core sound with a bit of beef.
For this I tried the base sound of the MusicLab Realstrat plugin with softube Amps after it but it just didnt cut it.
So therefore I ask : is there something better out there ?
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1st September 2012
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#2 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2012
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I know nothing about VSTi guitar but check out Scuffham Amps for an incredibly lower gain amp sim. Might help.
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1st September 2012
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#3 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jan 2010
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IK Slash Marshall! with a great booster in front (ts 808, BB preamp, etc)
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1st September 2012
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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Amplitube and your fingers....you gotta PULL that tone outta there like you mean it
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1st September 2012
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#5 | | Gear addict
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Yeah I can't tell whether OP wants a VSTi or is using a real guitar..
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1st September 2012
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#6 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Miguel Pereira - Rio de Janeiro
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I think the Peavy Revalver is one of the best, I didnt try all version of amplitube but I didnt like the ones I tried amplitube 1 and 2, its seems to have a lot of versions, fender this, hendrix that... I also liked the one that came with line-6 hardware, I think is pod farm.
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2nd September 2012
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#7 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada
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The web demos for these VSTi guitars sound pretty good... amplesound.net
...if you try one, come back and let us know how it worked out.
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2nd September 2012
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#8 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2009
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He mentioned RealStat so it sounds like he doesn't play guitar.
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2nd September 2012
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2009
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He doesnt play the guitar obviously.
But I think he also doesnt find Realstrat to have enough beef in its core sound and also asks for a better sounding alternative .
If the base sound is solid then adding a great amp sim will make it as good if not better sounding.
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12th October 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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12th October 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by abechap024 Amplitube and your fingers....you gotta PULL that tone outta there like you mean it
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12th October 2012
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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I've got all the 'real guitar/strat/LPC etc' AU's, but it was the first one I used - real guitar - that got a friend of mine, who's been playing guitar for 30 odd years and has original Gibsons and Strats shocked at the 'lead guitars' with string scraping on ... hold on, I'll upload a bit of an old demo ... OK ...this demo was entirely VSTI's throughout ... no 'real' instruments at all, bit this is the 'real guitar' au just through logic's effects ... the main 'lead' stuff is very low down in the first half, but more audible in the latter section (this was a first off rough demo ages ago), but all guitars are the supposedly 'acoustic' 'real guitar' ... see what you think.
NB ... everything played by hand from my master keyboard- no midi files for the guitars |
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12th October 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Vandal sounds pretty good, but I'm still an amp/mic guy for my personal guitar sound.
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12th October 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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I've had good success with Amp Designer in Logic. I don't know if I would feature the tones in a solo, but possibly. Plugged directly in a few times just to lay rough reference tracks and ended up keeping em.
But it's Logic ... so ... not exactly for everyone.
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12th October 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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I think this is about keyboard AU's ... the reference is to a VI ...
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12th October 2012
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#16 | | Lives for gear
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Oh ... whoops .... I would have no idea in that respect.
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12th October 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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Softube is it. You already have it.
Try it again for the first time.
Pull up the marshall. Turn the pre gain down to less than one. Like 0.3
Then turn the master up.
Put a compressor plug before it to squeeze more tone into it.
That there is a really, really, REALLY believable signal. Then add a fuzz in front, or some reverb on an aux. And adjust the mic placement based on your style of mixing.
And the metal amp room has a great lead sound. I made this one go-to preset. Works every time. And it wasn't hard to make. I sincerely think you just need to compress your signal a little before you hit amp room. I've used ESP customs with amp room , US strats, a Gibson L4. This plug in lets the guitar tone shine through. Just keep working with it.
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12th October 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by traumerei1838 Softube is it. You already have it.
Try it again for the first time.
Pull up the marshall. Turn the pre gain down to less than one. Like 0.3
Then turn the master up.
Put a compressor plug before it to squeeze more tone into it.
That there is a really, really, REALLY believable signal. Then add a fuzz in front, or some reverb on an aux. And adjust the mic placement based on your style of mixing.
And the metal amp room has a great lead sound. I made this one go-to preset. Works every time. And it wasn't hard to make. I sincerely think you just need to compress your signal a little before you hit amp room. I've used ESP customs with amp room , US strats, a Gibson L4. This plug in lets the guitar tone shine through. Just keep working with it. | Yes he does, that's why he's talking about MusicLab Realstrat plugin - a VI, not physical wooden guitars. FWIW, I agree with your choice of sim though |
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12th October 2012
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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If RealStrat doesn't have enough meat.... grab RealLPC from the same company.
You will NOT be dissappointed. The Les Paul guitar in general has more nuts than a Strat... so it makes sense if you want a good lead guitar sound to not use a rhythm guitar VST  . RealStrat is best for rhythm... RealLPC is better for lead.
EDITED: Also... yes, grab IK Amplitube. Version 3 is now free, so you can start from there and only add on modules if you want to. But what it comes with is more than adequate to get a great sound.
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14th October 2012
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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It's quite common on these guitar sim/VI threads that someone comes in and says something like "just get a guitarist". missing the point, but I just finally got 'round to buying a guitar, and if you're a proficient keyboard player, it's much quicker to pick up than if you've never played before, and importantly, it makes you think completely differently about composing and chord structures, or at least it has for me. I'm no Jimmy Page and never will be, but I'm playing keyboards and composing in a different way now, so I'm going to be that guy (even though I own the 'real guitar' VI stuff after a lifetime of being a frustrated guitarist) ... and say ... you could try buying a guitar instead - it worked for me  r
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15th October 2012
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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^totally agree here also.
It's good for your brain... even though you can technically do most of the simple things in your VI.
It's the same way that most people program drum patterns much better on a pad controller than on your keyboard. You'd be surprised what your brain can do with the same information presented in a different way.
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5th December 2012
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#23 | | Gear nut
Joined: Mar 2011
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After trying MusicLab's RealStrat I got excited (rarely do I get excited about gear) and wrote a little impression/review. Hopefully it's helpful . . .
The moment I launched RealStrat, I smiled and thought to myself, "Wow! MusicLab has done it again!" Just like the RealGuitar, this electric version has five excellent performance modes. I turned up the volume on solo mode and played a cool little lick for my guitarist, who had his back turned at the time. He quickly spun around and was in shock for two reasons: 1. I'm a terrible guitarist, and what I played sounded great. 2. I was using a plugin. I had to prove to him I wasn't playing a loop sample.
One of the other things I like about RealStrat is the size of the package. I get amazing quality without filling my hard drive with a zillion levels of questionable samples. I no longer have to spend weeks learning key-switches. RealStrat is fun right out of the box. Just launch and let your creative juices flow. When you don't have much money, you need to make sure every penny is spent wisely. RealStrat is a great value . . . lots of bang for the buck. I've paid more hiring the wrong "guitarists" :-). All in all, RealStrat is a fantastic virtual Fender Stratocaster emulation. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to write, produce, and record sensational electric guitar parts, whether it be rhythms, leads, or FX. Thank you MusicLab! :-).
In Summary: RealStrat sound great and is a blast to use.
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6th December 2012
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#24 | | Gear interested
Joined: Nov 2012 Location: Budapest
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Don't know if OP has already found a solution, but I like the sound of these two for guitar parts: Evolution EG Strawberry Ilya Efimov LP
These are good for laying down ideas. For a final guitar track? Nah.
PS.:
Kuassa Amplifikation Amplifikation Vermilion at Kuassa Amplifikation and Creme
check 'em out. Vermillion is combo clean-crunch fun, Creme is hi-gain kickass sweetness. Built-in IR loaders in both plugs are a nice addition. Rhodes-Wurly-Hammond samples love 'em too.
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6th December 2012
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#25 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jul 2011
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I've played all of the above mentioned sims and amps etc, and it really is a matter of personal taste. I like some for some songs and others for different sounds. It's best to have 2 or 3 or more to try different combinations. If you start with a clean Guitar plug and you like the sound, you're likely to have better luck with amps and effects. There is no one that fits all though.
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