Joined: Sep 2012
Notes for future generations:
Got the goods today, install went super smooth. Those 6 duplicate components were not greyed out as I had thought they might be. It allowed me to install the newer versions of Compressor, Qmaster, Qadministrator, Batch Monitor, Apple Loops Utility, and Soundtrack Pro right alongside installations of the existing older versions, they just appear in separate /Applications folders (old ones in Final Cut Studio folder, new ones in Logic Studio folder) and can all launch perfectly happily alongside one another, even at the same time!
They also seem to share .plist files, as there is only one in ~/Library/Preferences for each of those programs, and trashing the .plist and opening either version of the program will create what appears to be an identical new one (for Apple Loops Utility it's actually labeled com.apple.soundtrackloopsutility.plist FYI).
The only other commonality I'm not sure about is the Apple Qmaster Preference Pane in System Preferences. I accidentally did a 'Remove Preference Pane' after the install thinking it related to the old version of Qmaster and that launching the new version would recreate it...it did not, and the removed Qmaster.prefpane file seems to have skipped the Trash bin and was permanently deleted, so now I'm out a preference pane. No biggie, not worth a reinstall, I'll try to copy the .prefpane file from a colleague's install. It seems to generically link preferences to the main executable package so I doubt there's anything unique to a particular installation that makes it non-portable. But to anyone installing a 'Studio' version Pro App with an existing one on-board, you might want to trash the old Qmaster.prefpane first so that /Library/PreferencePanes will inherit one from the new installation. That's about the only potential conflict I came across. Now I feel safe to delete the more outdated iterations of those 6 applications and use the Logic Studio-bundled versions exclusively even if it's for a Final Cut project. Apple could've been a bit more clear on the duplication of components between Final Cut and Logic Studio installs, but doing it naively seems to have worked out just fine. Without paying closer attention you might find yourself using the older versions of Compressor, Soundtrack, etc. from the first installed Studio package when you have newer ones available, but that's not a bad worst-case scenario.
The sloppy part: Apple Loops Library
So despite mention of the Application component going smoothly, it does look like there's some duplication of additional content, a discussion I wanted to separate from the aforementioned. It's not that I use or care that much about Apple Loops (use Ableton Live for clip-based composition, got Logic just to use its ES M synth for generating samples - and because it was so cheap), but I'm anal about having things set up correctly in case I ever do want to use them.
The thing with the Apple Loops is that the existing install of Final Cut Studio included a directory of Apple Loops to accompany Soundtrack Pro 1. They came in .aiff format and are dated from 2005. The new installation of Logic Studio also includes the same directory of Apple Loops for the accompanying Soundtrack Pro 3, this time in .caf files, dated 2009. The two directories of files are generally the same but not completely so. The ST 1 (.aiff) has more in some categories whereas the ST 3 (.caf) versions have more in others. Therefore I'll be maintaining both sets even after uninstalling the ST 1 application.
Add these two to the convoluted series of Apple Loops directories that have come in from everywhere, at: /Library/Audio/Apple Loops and /Library/Application Support/GarageBand and /Library/Application Support/Logic and, at least my collection looks like this:
- Loops for Soundtrack Pro 1 (with FCS 5, 2005, .aiff files, ~7GB)
- Loops for Soundtrack Pro 3 (with LS 9, 2008, .caf files, ~22GB)
- Loops for GarageBand 5 (with iLife '09, 2009, .caf files, ~250MB)
- iLife Sound Effects (with iLife '09, 2009, .caf files, ~280MB)
- Loops from 6 Jam Packs (with LS 9, 5x2007, 1x2009('Voices'),~6.5GB )
I'm just going to keep all of these in a directory in case I ever need content from Apple Loops. Looks like my Saturday night is going to be spent rebuilding Apple Loops Index files to make sure the old .aiff loops still play nice with the newer version of Loops Utility, ST 3, and Logic 9 since the native format is now the .caf versions.
Anyway, Apple Loops duplication aside (which is only a matter of storage space, for a dozen GB it's minor to most people) the install of an Apple ProApp Studio product while an existing ProApp Studio product is already installed with prior versions of common components seems to have worked out very smoothly for me. Hope that info helps some future searcher. Thanks.