24th August 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | Best LCD Monitor Size for Audio PC?
I currently have my home-built DAW connected to an ASUS 19" LED backlit monitor with a resolution of 1440 x 900. Using Reaper, I would like to expand my screen real estate, and here are the options I'm considering:
1) Use two 19" monitors at 1440 x 900 side by side.
2) Purchase a relatively affordable 24" 1920 x 1200 IPS monitor such as the Dell U2412M.
3) Get a 27" standard 16:9 monitor with a 1080p vertical resolution.
Anything higher than this is out of my price range. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the practical benefits of the 16:10 over the 16:9, and also the relative difference between 24" and 27" at the same resolution, but I find myself wishing I had more vertical viewing space in Reaper for the docked windows below the TCP. A dual monitor setup could obviously mitigate this, but I suspect having to deal with two displays could cause numerous distractions in terms of mouse cursor position et al; more headache that it's worth.
Or I could just get a 24" 16:9 for less money at 1920x1080. This would still be a huge upgrade over the current single 19", no?
This setup is for music workstation use only. A 19" display on my web computer is ample, as I'm not all that fussy. I just need more visual space on the DAW. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.
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24th August 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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2 Monitors side by side is never good because you are always looking to the side.
I prefer 3x 22" 1080p.
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24th August 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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Option 2 (24" 1920x1080) is the best bang-for-the-buck and it's good for your neck. You'll get plenty of screen real estate without the need to feel like sitting in a big movie theater in the 1st row :-).
I moved from two monitors side-by-side with more total resolution to a single 24" and liked it way better.
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24th August 2012
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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27" is the sweet spot IMO. Youll have the same resolution/stuff on the screen only slightly bigger with the 27". Im on a 24" LCD on this PC at 1920x1200. My DAW box has a 32" LED TV at 1920x1080. I dont miss anything top to bottom if you will. Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Monitors, LCD Monitors, SAMSUNG, 27"
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#5 | | Gear interested
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27" might be the sweet spot if you have bad eyesight (or refuse to wear corrective lenses), but i hate paying more $$ for the same screen real estate. I'd go for the Dell's with 1200 vertical res. the extra 120px might not seem like a ton, but it really makes a difference in my experience.
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24th August 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by mattgoody 27" might be the sweet spot if you have bad eyesight (or refuse to wear corrective lenses), but i hate paying more $$ for the same screen real estate. I'd go for the Dell's with 1200 vertical res. the extra 120px might not seem like a ton, but it really makes a difference in my experience. | My eyesight is 20/20 both so  your wrong. |
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25th August 2012
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#7 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by mattgoody 27" might be the sweet spot if you have bad eyesight (or refuse to wear corrective lenses), but i hate paying more $$ for the same screen real estate. I'd go for the Dell's with 1200 vertical res. the extra 120px might not seem like a ton, but it really makes a difference in my experience. | Yeah, this is sort of my thought too. The 1200 vertical p in the smaller 24" package would offer a more visibility than 1080p in a larger 27", just smaller, right?
And am I correct in assuming that the higher 8ms refresh rate is perhaps a concern for gamers (which I am not), but of no concern for audio apps?
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25th August 2012
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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How about two 23 inch IPS monitors (1920x1080) side-by-side, with slightly V-shaped placing? That's what I've been doing, since I have ~45inch between monitors.
LG has decent IPS monitor lineups, and 23inch is usually around $180-$190. I have four of them (trying to setup quad-bracket: two top, tow bottom using eyefinity). Better viewing angle (from the side) is the advantage of IPS monitors, although they are not for gamers.
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25th August 2012
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#9 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Masaaki How about two 23 inch IPS monitors (1920x1080) I have four of them (trying to setup quad-bracket: two top, tow bottom using eyefinity). Better viewing angle (from the side) is the advantage of IPS monitors, although they are not for gamers. | LOL. Pretty ambitious! I've narrowed it down between: Dell Ultrasharp U2412 HP LA2405x
The Dell is IPS and the HP is TN, but I have no idea what this means in the real world. Both are native 16:10 1920x1200, and both get good reviews.
They can both be found for under $300. Is there any particular compelling reason to choose one over the other?
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25th August 2012
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#10 | | Gear addict
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24" 1920*1200 would be my vote. Good extra vertical screen space, and that has the DPI around 96 I think which is perfect for average viewing distance. I tend not to like anything else so much..
I'm going to get the Ultrasharp soon myself, and I'm also putting one of the 1920*1080 models either side of it to give myself a 3 monitor setup. Screens very low down, monitors above the outer screens and pointing downwards.
I can't imagine working with just one. My current setup is a 17" laptop right infront of me with a 21" 1920 1080 a foot back on a 6" high shelf. They line up perfectly which is great. The speakers are on the shelf either side of the big monitor.
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25th August 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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I prefer a 40" LCD TV at 1980x1080. Plenty of room for controllers and keyboard in front of the screen and you're not so close to the speakers either which I prefer.
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25th August 2012
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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The new Reaper WT Imperial Theme on 2 x 1920 x 1080 monitors (mixer and master permanently using one full screen) is a thing of beauty if you like that kind of vibe.
I'm not quite ready to jump ship from Cubase yet, but after trying this out last week Cubase gui looks so dull :(
My 2 monitors are one over top of the other (one is a touchscreen at desktop height but I rarely use the touch tbh) and I find mouse movement between them much better/quicker this way than between 2 set up side by side.
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25th August 2012
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#13 | | Stabby Stabby
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: Allover Canada
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If I could get a 40" LCD that did 2560x1600 I'd be so happy lol.
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25th August 2012
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#14 | | Gear addict
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Worth mentioning mouse from screen to screen is no effort whatsoever if you decide to go 2 screens route |
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25th August 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Quasar And am I correct in assuming that the higher 8ms refresh rate is perhaps a concern for gamers (which I am not), but of no concern for audio apps? | Yes, you are correct.
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25th August 2012
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#16 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by stella645 The new Reaper WT Imperial Theme on 2 x 1920 x 1080 monitors... | It's this theme that jump-started me on the quest to get a bigger and better display than my current single 1440x900, even though I'm not going to switch to it from RADO. It's mainly about more vertical resolution for Reaper's docked windows, and more horizontal real estate for viewing windows undocked without totally obscuring the TCP would be nice, too.
WT Imperial is a beautiful theme aesthetically, a real masterpiece, but it's much too complex and busy for me I think.
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25th August 2012
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#17 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by Quasar 3) Get a 27" standard 16:9 monitor with a 1080p vertical resolution.
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This setup is for music workstation use only. A 19" display on my web computer is ample, as I'm not all that fussy. I just need more visual space on the DAW. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks. | This to me seems to be the wisest choice. The biggest advantage is that it offers you enough screen real estate to work without having to manipulate windows continuously, and makes all those tiny weeny plugin windows actually readable for a change. You can also find models that offer response times as low as 3ms (GTG), and even though you are not a gamer, you will appreciate the extra snap-iness. This can be had with a budget of approx. $250.00 to $300.00 USD.
Good luck with your search!
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26th August 2012
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#18 | | Gear nut
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I considered the 27s, but pulled the trigger on the 24" 1920x1200 Dell U2412m for $289 at B&H Photo...
... If I don't like it I can always cry and rue and lament and put it on my deathbed regret list, but I think it will work out great!
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26th August 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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For all you pixel theory guys, I just checked this here.
1920x1080 32"
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1920x1200 24"
BOTH running Reaper and the Imperial theme
Tracks showing=SAME
Mixer channels showing=SAME
All other track and mixer channel data and transport showing= Same info
**ONLY diff was three Insert slots and three sends slots showing in the middle of the mixer which can EASILY be scrolled on the 1920x1080 32"
I still think the 27 is the sweet spot and would gladly take it over my 24" 1920x1200
That extra pixel aint no biggie IMO
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26th August 2012
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#20 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by shanabit For all you pixel theory guys, I just checked this here.
1920x1080 32"
verses
1920x1200 24"
BOTH running Reaper and the Imperial theme
Tracks showing=SAME
Mixer channels showing=SAME
All other track and mixer channel data and transport showing= Same info
**ONLY diff was three Insert slots and three sends slots showing in the middle of the mixer which can EASILY be scrolled on the 1920x1080 32"
I still think the 27 is the sweet spot and would gladly take it over my 24" 1920x1200
That extra pixel aint no biggie IMO | Any chance you could post screenshots?
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26th August 2012
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Quasar Any chance you could post screenshots? | No need to , I just told you the diff visually. Just a few more inserts and sends slots showing, thats it.
Give me a minute and Ill see what I can do
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26th August 2012
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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1920x1200
1920x1080 |
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26th August 2012
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#23 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter |
Thanks for taking the trouble to post these!
Yeah I can see your point that the difference isn't huge, There are clearly several more MCP insert levels visible on the 1200p, which isn't of any huge practical import here, but may or not matter for, say, editing in a docked PRV beneath the track panel. I don't know. The bottom line for me is that the 24" 16:10 offers more screen real estate than anything else I can afford, and I wanted to maximize that... I may borrow a 27" display after my Ultrasharp comes in the mail, and do a comparison.
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26th August 2012
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Quasar Thanks for taking the trouble to post these!
Yeah I can see your point that the difference isn't huge, There are clearly several more MCP insert levels visible on the 1200p, which isn't of any huge practical import here, but may or not matter for, say, editing in a docked PRV beneath the track panel. I don't know. The bottom line for me is that the 24" 16:10 offers more screen real estate than anything else I can afford, and I wanted to maximize that... I may borrow a 27" display after my Ultrasharp comes in the mail, and do a comparison. | Either way, going from a 19" to a 24 your going to be like WOW
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26th August 2012
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#25 | | Gear Head
Joined: Aug 2012 Location: London
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2x22" 1980x screens.
No point in having the same amount of displayed space but just bigger, unless you are a few meters away.
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26th August 2012
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#26 | | Lives for gear
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21 or better @1080p. 1 24/27" or 2 21" monitors is a good set up. even 1 21 @1080p is good enough.
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26th August 2012
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#27 | | Lives for gear
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I would think you should choose a 24 or a 27. I love my dual monitor set up, but I agree that constantly tilting to one side is obnoxious..
Choose the site that best fits your distance from the monitor. If you're right in front of it you may not need a 27"
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26th August 2012
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#28 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by kasmira I would think you should choose a 24 or a 27. I love my dual monitor set up, but I agree that constantly tilting to one side is obnoxious..
Choose the site that best fits your distance from the monitor. If you're right in front of it you may not need a 27"
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk | Free Tip, put the main one central, as normal, and only the 2nd at an angle.
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26th August 2012
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#29 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Audio1 Free Tip, put the main one central, as normal, and only the 2nd at an angle. | Yeah, but in a lot of set ups this isn't possible since it could get in the way of your studio monitors.
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26th August 2012
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#30 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by kasmira Yeah, but in a lot of set ups this isn't possible since it could get in the way of your studio monitors.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk | Well, if space is that limited I would agree with the point you made above, about 1 27".
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