apogee ad16x and da16x firewire wordclock issue

[stoneagejim]

No one?

[Doc Mixwell]

Oh man, this is DICEY bro, at least, the Aggregate is DICEY, and I will NOT use it!! In all Seriousness, I would STRONGLY suggest, connecting one of them via the X-FW card with the Right Firmware for Advanced Routing, and using the Split Path Feature of one interface to the other one.

Basically, One of the interfaces should be attached via XFW with the Right Firmware for Advanced Routing Functionality. I would use the AD16x as the master. Then you connect the Digital Outputs [AES/EBU or Optical] of the AD16x to the DA16x. Then I would clock the DA16x on external via WC, and leave the AD16x on internal clock. Then in Pro Tools, use One Driver.

[stoneagejim]

Hi Adam,

You've helped me out a few times and i really appreciate it.

I have the ad16x in advanced routing at the moment connected via a x firewire card option, I'm using 16 ins and 8 digital outs feeding a hear back hub via adat. The da16x also has a x FireWire card installed but his is not in advanced mode. This will be feeding a dangerous 2 bus and nothing else, the output of d2b will go to a 2500 then back into 2 inputs of the ad16x.... So are you saying that the way I have it hooked up at the moment will be ok? Am I right thinking that the da16x will be clocking from the ad16x's FireWire as its not connected to anything else?

Thanks a million!

Jim

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by stoneagejim

Hi Adam,

You've helped me out a few times and i really appreciate it.

I have the ad16x in advanced routing at the moment connected via a x firewire card option, I'm using 16 ins and 8 digital outs feeding a hear back hub via adat. The da16x also has a x FireWire card installed but his is not in advanced mode. This will be feeding a dangerous 2 bus and nothing else, the output of d2b will go to a 2500 then back into 2 inputs of the ad16x.... So are you saying that the way I have it hooked up at the moment will be ok? Am I right thinking that the da16x will be clocking from the ad16x's FireWire as its not connected to anything else?

Thanks a million!

Jim

Awesome, I am happy to know I have been of assistance before!

Hmm, the last sentence has confused me a bit. You don't need to use the da16x's xfw whatsoever and it can remain in standard mode. You'll want to clock the da16x, either from the Digital inputs, or with Word Sync on BNC.

But Yes, I think you have it setup, how I would do it. However, you are using half of the outputs you'd need for the DA16x, devoted for your hear back system. I would probably use the analog before that. The da16x has way better sounding converters.

If you have a patch bay system, this is real easy to make happen. A half normal move (outputs will split) from the da16x outputs to the D2b would allow you to split the same signals into your headphone system, at the same time, using the same converters.

If the Ad16x is set to internal, you should clock the da16x via Word Clock on BNC connection.

[stoneagejim]

"Hmm, the last sentence has confused me a bit. You don't need to use the da16x's xfw whatsoever and it can remain in standard mode. You'll want to clock the da16x, either from the Digital inputs, or with Word Sync on BNC"

now im confused....

am i right thinking that you are saying to use the adat outputs of the ad16x advance routing to feed the da16x? and not use the firewire card?

im not too worried about the hearback as i only use this for tracking.

[phas3d]

Just have the ad16x set to internal clock. Use a BNC or ADAT cable from the AD16x out to the in of the DA16X in and choose word clock or ADAT according to what you connected as clock source on the DA16X like Doc said.

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by stoneagejim

"Hmm, the last sentence has confused me a bit. You don't need to use the da16x's xfw whatsoever and it can remain in standard mode. You'll want to clock the da16x, either from the Digital inputs, or with Word Sync on BNC"

now im confused....

am i right thinking that you are saying to use the adat outputs of the ad16x advance routing to feed the da16x? and not use the firewire card?

im not too worried about the hearback as i only use this for tracking.

Let me unconfuse the situation now , I really hope this hammers the final nail, in the coffin for you,

Yeep, I think the XFW in the DA16x, is no longer needed, at this time. And with regard to your hear back system, you can just patch the DA16x into it, however you want. Most of the time, I like to use a Stereo Cue Mix. I like to Mix the Fold back, as if it were a Record.

So with the AD16x set to Advanced Routing, its DIGITAL outputs are meant to feed the DA16x's Digital Inputs. You will be able to send 16 channels of Digital Audio directly to the DA16x via the AD16x. So with one XFW card used, this will yield a 16 AD and 16 DA system. It should have a lower DSP Draw, and the biggest plus will be that ONE driver is used with Pro tools.

With regard to Clocking the interfaces together, you can choose that the DA16x clock externally to the DIGITAL inputs, or via Word Sync over BNC. I would suggest using a Short Apogee Wide Eye BNC cable using Word Clock. Then you'll want to hit the terminate button on the DA16x, and select external clock via BNC. You should be flying with this setup.

[stoneagejim]

"click"

LEGEND!

thanks adam, you should think about writing a book! you explain so well, and i understand every time. (i might be back for more help..... so stand guard)

best

jim

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by stoneagejim

"click"

LEGEND!

thanks adam, you should think about writing a book! you explain so well, and i understand every time. (i might be back for more help..... so stand guard)

best

jim

Sweet!!! Glad it all made it through the matrix!! Happy to help!

Yea...I've heard the "write a book" request before, sadly the truth is,not sure I am that good of a writer. Maybe, who knows, anyone can do anything they want. I think I'd never finish it. Well, maybe I could/should. I would need someone to really kick me in the balls with a good topic.
Anything BUT CLOCKS OR CLOCKING!!!!!!! FUGG!!!