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10th August 2012
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Building a Hackintosh!

Building a new "mac pro" DAW. Hopefully it will install correctly with mountain lion! I am dead tired of waiting for the new mac pro.
I'm building this for using with Logic. Selling my iMac 27" 3,4GHz i7,256gb SSD.


Gigabyte GA-X79-UD5, Socket-2011 motherboard
IntelĀ® Core i7-3820 Processor quad 3,6GHz
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB PhysX CUDA
OCZ SSD Agility 3 Series 2.5" 240GB SATA 6 Gb/s (SATA3.0), 525MB/500MB/s
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 64GB CL10
NZXT Switch 810 Big Tower
Corsair HX 750W PSU

I'm thinking about trying out with 32GB ram first, and upgrade if needed to 64GB.

I'll let you know how this goes!
this build will end up at about 2500$.


I have some stuff from earlier like:
24" LCD's
A lot of harddrives, 750GB/1TB/500GB 7200 RPM drives.
mouse/keyboard etc.
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Sounds good! I hope everything wlll go well with 2011 socket. I was also considering upgrading but ended up only upgrading to SSD
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32GB of RAM....what do you do with that machine? Run the Internets?
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32GB of RAM....what do you do with that machine? Run the Internets?
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Running Logic Pro with some pretty intensive sample libaries in Kontakt and plugins. I use mostly software, and prefer not to freeze tracks all the time.
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Sounds good! I hope everything wlll go well with 2011 socket. I was also considering upgrading but ended up only upgrading to SSD
I do hope so as well. According to "tonymac" it should be fine. I've used the parts recommended in the 2012 buyers guide pro build for socket 2011.

have never built a hackintosh before, but I think it will go well.
If it won't run OSX, I'll use it as a gaming machine at home, and then buy the new mac pro when it releases.
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What do you think of the HDD setup?
I have 4 enterprise 500GB drives.

HDD1 OCZ SSD: OS disk for OSX.
HDD2 500GB 7200RPM: Kontakt Samples
HDD3 500GB 7200RPM: Kontakt Samples pt2
HDD4: 500GB 7200RPM: Win7 system disk
HDD5: 500GB 7200RPM: Logic Project folder
HDD6: 750GB 7200RPM: Games, documents, music, etc.
HDD7: 1000GB 7200RPM: Plugins, Programs, Other


Would that spread out the workflow good when it comes to diskspeed?
Backup are set up seperate on a NAS
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7 disks in a enclosure usually generates alot of heat... You can probably looze half if you have SSD's (and a good NAS offcourse). If that machine is in a machineroom it might be an ok situation. If it's under the desk it's a not so smart thing...
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I was in the exact same boat, now have 2 x79 hackies, one UD5 and one p9x79. These are so easy to install it's stupid, you can do dsdt free and easybeast free if you like or follow those guides if you google all mainstream x79 gigabyte or asus boards and that guy has dsdt's. Basically it's one reboot more than a clean install of osx on a mac.

FWIW the Asus is the better one of the two for this imo, FW works ootb with audio interfaces (the giga has the buffer skipping prob, it works but not for recording), and the usb3 chipset is supported (although I haven't messed with it yet). Also it OC's better and it's cheaper.

The one thing you MUST, MUST, MUST do is disable P-states and C-states. At least on my machine I was getting all kinds of errors with them enabled with DAWs, even with it not overclocked.

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GeneratePstates=No and GenerateCstates=No to the boot flags in your boot.plist. Or you can add them as keys, and also disable in bios.

These things rock though. OC'd you will in the ballpark of 900 d-verbs or 160 tracks in the evan logic benchmark (right there with 12 core mac pro).
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What are P & C states? Sorry if dumb question....
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C and P states are for core parking and core idling. IE the os will try to run all/some of the cores down to 1200mhz or park them all together. Generally all that stuff like turbo, eist etc is not good for high performance audio.

FWIW In PT in win7 with p and c states were causing lockups with PT and the HD|N card. I'd guess that stuff eventually becomes usable for daws but it would be the first thing I would turn off if there is an issue.
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I was in the exact same boat, now have 2 x79 hackies, one UD5 and one p9x79. These are so easy to install it's stupid, you can do dsdt free and easybeast free if you like or follow those guides if you google all mainstream x79 gigabyte or asus boards and that guy has dsdt's. Basically it's one reboot more than a clean install of osx on a mac.

FWIW the Asus is the better one of the two for this imo, FW works ootb with audio interfaces (the giga has the buffer skipping prob, it works but not for recording), and the usb3 chipset is supported (although I haven't messed with it yet). Also it OC's better and it's cheaper.

The one thing you MUST, MUST, MUST do is disable P-states and C-states. At least on my machine I was getting all kinds of errors with them enabled with DAWs, even with it not overclocked.

Add:

GeneratePstates=No and GenerateCstates=No to the boot flags in your boot.plist. Or you can add them as keys, and also disable in bios.

These things rock though. OC'd you will in the ballpark of 900 d-verbs or 160 tracks in the evan logic benchmark (right there with 12 core mac pro).
Thanks for the info!
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My computer's mainboard finally broke after 6+ years and for that I had to get a new system.

I ended up choosing Asus P8Z77-V mainboard and i7 3770k cpu. Now when I think I would have preferred Gigabytes UDH5-model, because it has better support.

I installed using MyHack method and finished the installation with Multibeast + HD6850 kexts from previous system.

So far everything is working fine except Speedstep+sleep. I'll probably need to do more reasearch though but its not that big thing for me.

EDIT:

I checked your system again and for me your graphics card looks way too powerful, no need for 2GB of memory Save the money and get good coolers for CPU and GPU instead!

Also I recommend getting fewer hard disks. Specially for noise and heat.
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7 disks in a enclosure usually generates alot of heat....
...and noise also
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A goid case will help eliminate both noise and heat. If you're not going to go with water cooling this is a great case.

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I'll be building mine in late September. The board I've chosen is the GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP5 TH. It was just released a couple of weeks ago and people have been testing it out. It has dual thunderbolt ports (exact same chip as on real macs) they work with the one caveat that they're not hot pluggable. There is a thread on the tonymacx86 boards where you can follow progress with this board. Keep in mind that while most have had no problems with this board, a few have had specific issues with wireless and GPU through the TB port (going through DVI/VGA/HDMI is fine). For more detailed info, check the thread linked below.

The board: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP5 TH LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
The thread: (Success!) GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP5 TH Thunderbolt
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Any updates?

Any updates on this? I might try to build one too in a near future...
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Any updates on this? I might try to build one too in a near future...
I almost have my hackintosh working...

The ONLY reason I built one is because Apple hasn't release a new mac pro in way too long.

Mountain Lion
ga-z77-ud5x
no graphics card (don't need one...)
16gb memory
256gb N4 crucial
4x 2gb raid 10 (audio drive)
HD2 accel.

I just need to get the network card going and I'm done!
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I almost have my hackintosh working...

The ONLY reason I built one is because Apple hasn't release a new mac pro in way too long.

Mountain Lion
ga-z77-ud5x
no graphics card (don't need one...)
16gb memory
256gb N4 crucial
4x 2gb raid 10 (audio drive)
HD2 accel.

I just need to get the network card going and I'm done!
according to a tonymacx86 moderator the wireless card that is included will not work with OS X, just a heads up.

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for you that's interested:

my hackingtosh works like a charm.
have to format it like 20 times to get it right - but now it works great.
Some of my USB3.0 ports doesn't work, but thats ok.
My wireless either - but that's ok as well.

* Dualscreen works on the GTX670
* Fireface UFX USB works
* Logic 9 pro works
* 6x SATA drives + 1SSD works
Have to use the ncpi=0x2000 at the startup to boot it.

been using it with Logic 9 pro the last days with an RME Fireface UFX on USB. All good. No errors.

Got around 14.000 on the Geekbench in OSX, 1000 more than my iMac.

only problem is some noise from fans which is quite disturbing.
I will install a fan controller + new fans from Nuctua.
the claim from Corsair H100 that sais 20-30dB is not right. the fans make a lot of noise... :P
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^ What method did you use ?
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^ What method did you use ?
tonyx86, unibeast combined with some kexts I found on the web for my motherboard with Mountain Lion.
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tonyx86, unibeast combined with some kexts I found on the web for my motherboard with Mountain Lion.
there will be a fix in multi beast for your Ethernet....
did you run your dsdt ?
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7 disks in a enclosure usually generates alot of heat... You can probably looze half if you have SSD's (and a good NAS offcourse). If that machine is in a machineroom it might be an ok situation. If it's under the desk it's a not so smart thing...
Heat is not an issue, if your cooling is well done. It is the vibration of the harddrives which tend to resonate which is the loud part. Depends a lot on the case how loud it gets.
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Building a new "mac pro" DAW. Hopefully it will install correctly with mountain lion! I am dead tired of waiting for the new mac pro.
I'm building this for using with Logic. Selling my iMac 27" 3,4GHz i7,256gb SSD.



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Heat is not an issue, if your cooling is well done. It is the vibration of the harddrives which tend to resonate which is the loud part. Depends a lot on the case how loud it gets.
Plaster the inside of the case with dynamat. No vibrations.
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I do hope so as well. According to "tonymac" it should be fine. I've used the parts recommended in the 2012 buyers guide pro build for socket 2011.

have never built a hackintosh before, but I think it will go well.
If it won't run OSX, I'll use it as a gaming machine at home, and then buy the new mac pro when it releases.
Hey, I think you should ditch the 2011 chipset and go for a high end 1155 motherboard like the GA-Z77X-UP5 TH. That motherboard has two Thunderbolt ports and should work great with OS X. There is a reason that the Mac Pro didn't have Thunderbolt, I think that the 2011 chipset doesn't work with it. The 1155 mobo should be more than enough for your system (it does have 32 gb RAM limit, though).

Also, Crucial makes some very good SSDs, so you might want to check out a Crucial M4 instead of that OCZ.

I made a Hackintosh build that is similar to what you are trying to do, check it out here: Intel Core i7-3770K, Antec Eleven Hundred - System Build - PCPartPicker .
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Is there a link somewhere where somebody managed to get an LGA 2011 working with OSX?
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