Who would like to see daw controler like this

[Arqen]

Yes. I'd like to see an affordable DAW controller that size, as long as the build quality is decent! E.g. the motorized faders need to not break under ordinary use.

I use a Mackie MCU pro, which I like... but the faders are somewhat noisy and one stopped working a couple months after buying it. Was a pain to fix.

[Aiyn Zahav]

This is quite impressive looking.

[loscolorados]

Originally Posted by Arqen

Yes. I'd like to see an affordable DAW controller that size, as long as the build quality is decent! E.g. the motorized faders need to not break under ordinary use.

I use a Mackie MCU pro, which I like... but the faders are somewhat noisy and one stopped working a couple months after buying it. Was a pain to fix.

they could just make a daw controler from this, but without amps, and stuff.
and make it cost less

[loscolorados]

Originally Posted by Aiyn Zahav

This is quite impressive looking.

yes, for that money

[Arqen]

Originally Posted by Aiyn Zahav

This is quite impressive looking.

That's half of what matters when people come into your studio. Right?

Only problem is the word "Behringer", which is associated with budget gear, and may cause certain people with fat wallets, high expectations and emotional connections to brand name gear to storm out (even though, in this case, the Behringer never touches the signal path).

[zlaya]

Behringer could probably sell it for like $1000 and we could all afford a "big studio" feel. Would be awesome for us ITB guys who like knobs and faders and stuff.

I have been thinking about buying an X32 just to use as a DAW controller, but it would be nice to see a version without all the audio stuff in it, for the cost aspect of course.

[trock]

it has DAW control but only on the 8 faders, not the first 16

[Aiyn Zahav]

Originally Posted by Arqen

That's half of what matters when people come into your studio. Right?

Only problem is the word "Behringer", which is associated with budget gear, and may cause certain people with fat wallets, high expectations and emotional connections to brand name gear to storm out (even though, in this case, the Behringer never touches the signal path).

Actually I meant it looks impressive, as in how much functionality it has as well as build quality.

[zlaya]

Well lets says two guys mix entirely ITB, and both mixes sound absolutely great, but one guy has an >insert large console< living in his studio...who do you think gets more clients? I bet if the dude with the console made worse mixes he would still have more clients.

Impressive looks do nothing when it comes to sound, but when it comes to getting clients...

[Kickflip]

I'm surprised there's still nothing like this that exists as a controller only!

Behringer have done really well here by the looks of it. I'd personally like 4 EQ bands adjustable at once, and could drop down to 16 channels + 1 master to shrink it down a bit, but the company that first makes one of those at an affordable price will be unleashing a game changer imo.

In the meantime, I'm sticking with my BCR2000 until the controller I actually want gets released. Although I might actually get a BCF2000 and an Alphatrack and rehouse them to make the solution I have in my head.

[loscolorados]

Originally Posted by zlaya

Behringer could probably sell it for like $1000 and we could all afford a "big studio" feel. Would be awesome for us ITB guys who like knobs and faders and stuff.

I have been thinking about buying an X32 just to use as a DAW controller, but it would be nice to see a version without all the audio stuff in it, for the cost aspect of course.

yes, this as daw controler for 1000$

[loscolorados]

Originally Posted by trock

it has DAW control but only on the 8 faders, not the first 16

shit! why

[Arqen]

Originally Posted by loscolorados

yes, this as daw controler for 1000$

That stinks.

Will anyone ever come up with a real competitor to the Yamaha 01v96? On top of everyone else the Yam has 16 nice quality motorized faders, is built like a tank, and the price is right (but the user interface sucks on the Yam, and DAW control is limited).

[loscolorados]

Originally Posted by Arqen

That stinks.

Will anyone ever come up with a real competitor to the Yamaha 01v96? On top of everyone else the Yam has 16 nice quality motorized faders, is built like a tank, and the price is right (but the user interface sucks on the Yam, and DAW control is limited).

yes, thats sick, nobody want's to make money.
there was subject about this, we made are wishlist

Tascam US2400 Replacement

Daw controroler
LOOKInG LiKe ReAL ANAlOg MiX PuLT
24 channels (Bankable by 16, and 8 groups (fx) bankable by 8),
jog wheel,
quiete touch sensitive motorized faders,
plugin control, (real)
bunch of colored scribble strips for each encoder (like behringer x32)
5 Encoders per channel,
endless rotary enconder
separate Master Fader,
under 1k !!!!

[cowboysaluki]

At school we have big ass digital control surfaces.

Audient ASP8024 with Dual Layer Control Module (48-channel) | Sweetwater.com

this is basically the same thing as the controller we have in our control room at school. The one we have is a Digidesign unit though, but its the same idea. They are ****ing AWESOME to work with.

Once im done with school, if i can get a job as a recording engineer somewhere, ill most likely be buying one of the Euphonix 8ch units and the 4ch unit with the touch screen. I just like having physical controls vs keys and a mouse. If i could afford it, id get it. The minisuites at school have 2 of the 8ch Euphonix units in each, they are pretty damn good, decently responsive and they get a LOT of use on a daily basis.

This may be just above the 1k budget, and have a slightly different setup than you described, but this guy http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MCcontrol2/ or http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MCmix/ are both great. Once i got the cash ill be buying them myself....that may be a while after student loans and all...

[Kickflip]

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[Kickflip]

Those Euphonix units look nice, but seem to lack features for the price, and still seem oriented towards looking like a controller rather than a mixing tool.

I'm waiting for something like this:



With 17 motorised faders underneath, a couple of rotaries on each channel for pregain/pan/sends, transport controls, and a few of the more often used buttons from the Mackie Control. And Behringer should make it so it'd be affordable.

Actually, the Presonus Studiolive mixers seem to be along the right lines, but again, are mixers as well as controllers, and the cost could be brought down quite a bit without the audio hardware.

[duckoff]

I'm waiting for something like this:

I used to have a DMX & have yearned for a controller that offers a full strip.

I dont even care about faders tbh, just the basic channel strip controls wd be awesome.

[Arqen]

Originally Posted by loscolorados

yes, thats sick, nobody want's to make money.
there was subject about this, we made are wishlist

Tascam US2400 Replacement

Daw controroler
LOOKInG LiKe ReAL ANAlOg MiX PuLT
24 channels (Bankable by 16, and 8 groups (fx) bankable by 8),
jog wheel,
quiete touch sensitive motorized faders,
plugin control, (real)
bunch of colored scribble strips for each encoder (like behringer x32)
5 Encoders per channel,
endless rotary enconder
separate Master Fader,
under 1k !!!!

Funny how the world works. That's basically exactly what I'm looking for too!

[Roland]

This why I like the Avid Profile:





Similar to the Sony DMX R-100.

What I don't understand is why so many manufacturers make it much more complex, Sony had the right sort of idea 10 or more years ago.

[RiF]

A little bit off topic, but I really don't get why every single controller has a dedicated PAN KNOB ??? This would be the last on my list of dedicated knobs, if at all.
Even a single FX SEND (preferably assignable or simply the first slot) would be 1000 times more productive.

[Ihsahn1981]

What I don't understand is why so many manufacturers make it much more complex

+1

[Kickflip]

Originally Posted by RiF

A little bit off topic, but I really don't get why every single controller has a dedicated PAN KNOB ??? This would be the last on my list of dedicated knobs, if at all.
Even a single FX SEND (preferably assignable or simply the first slot) would be 1000 times more productive.

Probably a hangup from the mixer days, but yeah, I agree! I'd like the knob to be there (ideally 2-4 though), with a bank of buttons that enables selecting up to 8 send destinations. NOT page up and down... that's not as immediate.

[Kickflip]

Originally Posted by duckoff

I used to have a DMX & have yearned for a controller that offers a full strip.

I dont even care about faders tbh, just the basic channel strip controls wd be awesome.

I've actually got my BCR2000 set up pretty close to a channel strip controller with Logic. Mapped out the rotaries to multiple compressor and EQ plugins, and got soft-takeover sorted out. Now, whenever I click on a channel, the BCR is controlling the first EQ and compressor on there. I can cut a bit more low end or adjust a peak EQ band without worrying about it jumping, and then go and do the same on another track. It's a big workflow boost, and can't help but grin when I use it

[Jay-]

Id buy the Behringer X32, but then I looked at the price tag $3200.
Its budget gear with a higher then budget price!

[RiF]

Originally Posted by Kickflip

I've actually got my BCR2000 set up pretty close to a channel strip controller with Logic. Mapped out the rotaries to multiple compressor and EQ plugins, and got soft-takeover sorted out. Now, whenever I click on a channel, the BCR is controlling the first EQ and compressor on there. I can cut a bit more low end or adjust a peak EQ band without worrying about it jumping, and then go and do the same on another track. It's a big workflow boost, and can't help but grin when I use it

Consider me being really really jealous! Sounds like heaven to me. But I am using Pro Tools and all I get is a stinkin' HUI emulation that is of no use for BCR.

[cinealta]

Would love to see something like this for under $10K:

[Arqen]

Mmmmmm. Yes, dreaming of the $10k System 5.

In another lifetime, perhaps.

[RiF]

Originally Posted by cinealta

Would love to see something like this for under $10K:

Hmmm... yes... so why don't we get it?

I see parts worth of:
4xBehringer BCF 2000 = total €600
4xBehringer BCR 2000 = total €600
4xiPad = total €2000
+ the center section, let's give it the parts/functionality of a Mackie MCU = €1300
+ console

Sums up to 600+600+2000+1300+console=around €6000

So it should be possible for < $10000, but...
1. nobody does it (how big is the market?)
2. are the protocols to let it talk to the DAWs available (HUI , Eucon)?