4th August 2012
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2009 Thread Starter | Should I get RME 9632 PCI or HDSPe AIO ?
Hello,
I was about to get RME HDSP 9632 PCI, and then I read few threads here on GS that there are possibility that it won't work well with my configuration because Intel dropped PCI native support, and that it is maybe better to get new HDSPe AIO interface (which is around 200 Euro more expensive than PCI version)...
I got Asus P8P67 motherboard and i5 2500k CPU.
I wanted to go with RME because of their drivers stability and possible better conversion than Profire 2626 that I have with which I'm not the happiest with its drivers.
Since I mostly mix, or record one channel at the time, I thought that 9632 would be a perfect choice, and for occasional multitracking I'd hook up 2626 via adat to 9632 or AIO.
If I would go with AIO for 500 Euro, maybe I should get Babyface instead?
And concerning that, for 400 Euro more I could get Benchmark DAC, but right now I would just like to get 9632, but I am very afraid about these possible incompatibilities...
Please, let me know what's the wisest choice to make.
Thanks
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4th August 2012
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#2 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2012
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PCIe has better stability. I've got an AIO, and it's great. faster than usb/firewire. but you need to $75 cord with xlr in/out for sure.
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4th August 2012
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#3 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2009 Thread Starter |
You are saying that I have to pay separate for the cord? It doesn't come packed with all the cables ?
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4th August 2012
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#5 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2009 Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by ivebenrecording  | Yeah I know that cable, and a friend of mine got that cable and the one with unbalanced connectors as well when he purchased 9632.
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6th August 2012
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#6 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2012
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I don't think that one comes with the AIO. I didn't get one with mine. And I've never had a 9632, but from what I've heard PCI (as opposed to PCIe) can have stability issues on newer systems.
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6th August 2012
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#7 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2012
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actually, come to think about it, I don't remember where I heard that. It maaaaay have specifically been on a hackintosh forum. But I think the statement just refers to in general.
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8th August 2012
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#8 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2009 Thread Starter |
You are right, they don't ship it with the balanced cable... that's so stupid
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24th August 2012
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#9 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 457
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Originally Posted by ivebenrecording | wow that one went for cheap!!!! so good to be true for a new aio!!!
i got mine new 2 months ago for $650 including the BO9632XLRMKH balanced breakout cable and shipping to aus which was a very good bargain at that time!
that ebay deal is too good to be true, i bet there was something wrong with it
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25th August 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: UK & France
Posts: 1,131
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I may have to go see what RME are doing as a replacement for my old but great HDSP9652, as I really need more than one ADAT I/O.
Great cards though.
Last edited by ivansc; 27th August 2012 at 08:10 AM..
Reason: not nut, BUT!
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25th August 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: UK & France
Posts: 1,131
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Originally Posted by ivebenrecording I don't think that one comes with the AIO. I didn't get one with mine. And I've never had a 9632, but from what I've heard PCI (as opposed to PCIe) can have stability issues on newer systems. | Running a HDSP9652 (same basic card as 9632) on a last years newest Asus mobo and amd 1055T with 16 ADAT I/O and spdif in operation at all times...
Absolutely as rock solid as it ever was on my previous machine.
Where did you hear about instability? I assume someone is saying that because most newer mobos do pci by bridging to/from pci-e it is less rugged?
Certainly no indication of that on my system.
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25th August 2012
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#12 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 225
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JanZoo, another option might be the HDSPe PCI (actually PCIe) host interface card with a Digiface external box (basically equivalent to HDSP 9632/9652 but working on PCIe).
ivansc, I believe AMD platforms (at least some) still support "native" (non-bridged) PCI. As do still a few recent/current Intel platforms.
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26th August 2012
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#13 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2009 Thread Starter |
Well, I wanted RME HDSP because of RME drivers and its DA conversion... But since I'm afraid to invest in a card that I'm not 100% sure that will run smoothly on my system and 600 Euro for HDSPe AIO is too much right now (if I had 600 at this moment, I'll probably find another 300 and go with Benchmark DAC instead), I decided to go with TC BMC 2, that will use as DAC and monitor controller, I don't really need ADC at this moment... And I'll stay with Profire 2626 drivers... And far as I can read on the forum, people praise BMC 2 and its conversion for the money, and many say that it is a huge step up from M-Audio converters
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26th August 2012
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#14 | | Lives for DAWs
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Germany, Worldwide
Posts: 2,054
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Originally Posted by ivansc I may have to go see what RME are doing as a replacement for my old nut great HDSP9652, as I really need more than one ADAT I/O.
Great cards though. | Go for the RayDAT. 4 ADAT I/O, successor of the 9652.
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27th August 2012
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#15 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 225
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I've been waiting on reviews/feedback on Marian's new PCIe Seraph A3 3x ADAT card (successor to their earlier PCI ADAT card): MARIAN Professional Line: Seraph A3 | |
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27th August 2012
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#16 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 457
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who ever said the RME AIO is not stable or not smooth simply needs to look for another thing to do instead of music
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27th August 2012
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#17 | | Lives for DAWs
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Germany, Worldwide
Posts: 2,054
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Originally Posted by fito_88 who ever said the RME AIO is not stable or not smooth simply needs to look for another thing to do instead of music | No, he said that about the PCI 9636 maybe not working perfectly on a SB board, which has no native PCI.
My experience is that ASUS SB boards (H67, P67, Z68) work fine with most PCI cards, but lowest latencies may cause worse performance compared to PCIe models.
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27th August 2012
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#18 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2012
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Originally Posted by DAW PLUS No, he said that about the PCI 9636 maybe not working perfectly on a SB board, which has no native PCI.
My experience is that ASUS SB boards (H67, P67, Z68) work fine with most PCI cards, but lowest latencies may cause worse performance compared to PCIe models. | ah ohk, makes sense then, my AIO runs smoothly on my asus x79 motherboard, i am really glad i went the AIO way, but the downsides of it is that i had to buy an outboard pre and DA convertor
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3 Weeks Ago
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#19 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 72
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Originally Posted by fito_88 ah ohk, makes sense then, my AIO runs smoothly on my asus x79 motherboard, i am really glad i went the AIO way, but the downsides of it is that i had to buy an outboard pre and DA convertor | You mean that's an upside, not downside?  
I've been using HDSP 9652>TC BMC-2 for years, and TC Konnekt 48 as AD. Great combo. Yes, a little expensive, but worth it.
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3 Weeks Ago
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#20 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2009 Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by DAW PLUS
My experience is that ASUS SB boards (H67, P67, Z68) work fine with most PCI cards, but lowest latencies may cause worse performance compared to PCIe models.
| Oh, that's cool, I have P8P67-B3 motherboard, but, a friend of mine has a 9632 card, so I'll borrow it from him to test it on my system, and if everything works well, I'll get one for sure.
Thanks
Jan
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