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Old 3rd August 2012   #1
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Problems with some PT Plugins

Hey guys. I'm having an issue with the Dyn3 Comp/Limiter plugin and other ones similar to it. Near the ratio knob where it should say 7:1 or whatever, it says 904<3 (or whatever else I set it to) and I can't seem to get it back to normal. It's the same with the other knobs. The gain, instead of being in Db's, is in fD's. I don't know how to change that. It's the same with the EQ3 plugins. The gain is in fD's instead of Db's. Here's a few pics:



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Maybe it's mad because it want's you to turn AT LEAST a one or two of those gain knobs to left?
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sounds like a driver issue with Pro Tools
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boost the EQ by 10 "fD's"
save the preset
open it up on a friends computer and find out what the equivalent in dB's an "fD" is. Then make a spreadsheet to calculate the conversions for you!

just kidding, that is pretty weird

the only thing I saw that was weirder was once when the internal battery was going in this Sony reverb I have. The display read out characters that looked like Martian, it wasn't even numbers and letters, just strange segments that looked like the instrument panel readings for a flying saucer.
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Details that help get answers:

What version of pro tools
what version of the plugins
what version of OSX
Has this problem gone on since starting with Pro Tools; if not, what have you done to your system lately that changed since the problem started up?

Also, the first poster was pointing out that with EQ, you can cut as well as boost; by boosting everything on a transparent EQ like the Digi, you're just adding gain staging instead of EQ sculpting. Hopefully this was just to illustrate the numbers shown in the value windows.
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You could update/reinstall protools.
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[QUOTE=nedorama;8132833]Details that help get answers:

What version of pro tools
what version of the plugins
what version of OSX
Has this problem gone on since starting with Pro Tools; if not, what have you done to your system lately that changed since the problem started up?/QUOTE]

Pro Tools 10.2
Latest version (I'm almost positive)
10.8 Mountain Lion

I haven't done anything out of the ordinary to make this error occur. It's been happening for a while; as long as I can remember. Also, it was happening before I updated to Mountain Lion.
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Maybe it's mad because it want's you to turn AT LEAST a one or two of those gain knobs to left?
Nope. I've tried that. I use these plugins all the time and whenever I use them, the knobs change fine, and everything works normally and sounds okay. The only thing is that the values are all screwed up and it's impossible to dial into certain settings.
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what version of the plugins and are you running the AAX and the RTAS versions. Definitely not normal and not seen over here.

I'd normally say reinstall, but since Mountain Lion may screw things up, all bets are off. Is it only on these 2 Digi plugins, or all of your plugins?

Your best bet is to post your issue on the Avid DUC.
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what version of the plugins and are you running the AAX and the RTAS versions. Definitely not normal and not seen over here.

I'd normally say reinstall, but since Mountain Lion may screw things up, all bets are off. Is it only on these 2 Digi plugins, or all of your plugins?

Your best bet is to post your issue on the Avid DUC.
1. I know this might sound like a stupid question, but how do you check plugin versions? And how do you check for AAX? I know where the plugin folders are. Do I do anything there?

2. I already posted there. No one was any help. I also tried calling Avid and they were not willing to help unless I paid them $40 for a support code. All the people were rude and disrespectful on the phone.
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1. I know this might sound like a stupid question, but how do you check plugin versions? And how do you check for AAX? I know where the plugin folders are. Do I do anything there?

2. I already posted there. No one was any help. I also tried calling Avid and they were not willing to help unless I paid them $40 for a support code. All the people were rude and disrespectful on the phone.
Hey,

Your plugs are in two folders on your harddrive in a master folder called avid.

Another possibility is that some plugs are out of date.

There is a good shareware app called Plugtools (google it) that identifies which plugs are out of date and you can then update those.

Sounds tedious i'd get a big cuppa joe and reinstall PTX. Did you really have this same problem with SLeopard ?

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Did you really have this same problem with SLeopard
I can't remember when the problem came up, but all I can remember is that before I upgraded to Mountain Lion I was having these issues. I don't think it has anything to do (I would assume) with the OS.
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I can't remember when the problem came up, but all I can remember is that before I upgraded to Mountain Lion I was having these issues. I don't think it has anything to do (I would assume) with the OS.
Well then its either PT or the plugs or both.

Plugtools is great!

And I would do a clean reinstall of PT.

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Plugtools is great!
Can I have a link for a download because whenever I go to download it I just get the "404 Server Unavailable" BS.
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If it's the same plugtools that was mentioned in Sound On Sound, it's no longer available.

path to check your Digi RTAS plugins:
main hard drive/Library/Application Support/Digidesign/Plug-Ins.

AAX Plugins:
main hard drive/Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio/Plug-Ins

select the EQ plugin, and do Command+I to get info.

On my system:
EQIII - RTAS version is 8.0.0, AAX is 10.2.0.140
Dynamics III - RTAS version is 9.0.2, AAX is 10.2.0.140

I'm running PT 10.2.0 on the mac and system spec'd in my signature.
I've moved duplicate RTAS plugins into the unused folder if I have the AAX version, can't see any reason to load up both.

Post your DUC link as i can't see it so hard to comment; I've posted numerous times there and have gotten help, but like here, if you don't post details, no one will bother helping as there's not enough info.
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PLug Tools

Hi

sorry for delay

did you try this link From DUC ?

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Plug Tools version 1.3 now available!

Hi Everyone,

I have made a new version of Plug Tools available that can automatically detect out of date plug-ins!

There is a small catch though.... I chose to create a database of plug-ins that Plug Tools can reference rather than using the Digidesign compatibility page. Digi's page is incomplete, as users have mentioned in this thread, and the names it uses for the plug-ins doesn't necessarily correlate to the actual names of the plug-ins as they appear on your hard drive. For example, sometimes it lists plug-in bundles without actually naming the plug-ins that make up that bundle... this posed problems for me when trying to parse the page to get meaningful data from it.

Making my own database poses a problem of it's own though - it needs to be maintained. What I would like to see eventually is for Plug Tools to be able to not only pull information from the database, but to be able to edit the database directly. Say, for example, if a user has a newer plug-in on their system than Plug Tools knows about, it would update the database with the new plug-in information. (It would be even cooler if plug-in developers would update the database themselves whenever they released a new version of one of their plug-ins...) But for now, though, I have to rely on myself and Plug Tools users to update the database manually.

At the moment, the database only has accurate information on the plug-ins I have on my own system. In order for Plug Tools to be useful, that database needs to be more complete, and the only way for that to happen at this point is for users to get involved.

I encourage everyone to checkout the new version of Plug Tools, and if they have a plug-in on their system that it doesn't recognize, then to go ahead and add that plug-in to the database using the simple web form I have created. There is no authentication required, I'm using the honor system at this point, so there is nothing stopping anyone from deleting all the plug-ins if they wanted to. I didn't want to bother with authenticating though as I see this as a temporary measure until I can get Plug Tools to read/write MySQL directly. Please be kind. This could turn out to be a disaster but I didn't know of any other way to complete the database.

Download Plug Tools here.

View/edit the plug-in database here.
(Plug-ins that need to be updated do not have a "filename" listed. This is name of the plug-in as it appears on your drive and needs to include the ".dpm" file extension.)



What’s new in version 1.3:

• User can edit reference plugins. File stored locally.
• User can "update" reference plugins from the net, replacing local plugs with those from server.
• preference to "update" reference plugs on startup.
• If not internet enabled, will use local reference file instead of getting new.
• updated server backend to MySQL rather than a plain HTML table. Plugin page is now dynamically created.
• (for now) users can add/edit/delete plugins on server via web interface.
• Main window redesigned. Web page now shares a tab view with the reference plugins table.
• Plug Tools now downloads plug-in list from server.
• Plug Tools can mark out of date plug-ins automatically.
• No longer necessary to specify where Pro Tools is installed.
• No longer necessary to specify out of date plug in folder.
• Plug-In table is sortable.
• Plug-in table colum order, width is persistent.
• You can activate/deactivate plug-ins via a checkbox in the Plug-in Table (moves them to Unused folder)
• clickable links to download plug-ins appear in Plug-In Table
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Mark - thanks for responding. There's no link in your post above. Looking forward to trying it out.
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Mark - is this the URL?
Plug Tools

the link isn't working. thanks.
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