4th July 2012
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Does MASCHINE necessary need hardware?
Do you need specific HW for Maschine or can you run the plug standalone?
Thank you!
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#2 | | Gear Guru
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It'll run stand alone, but it's a software plug-in, so you need a computer.
Plus Maschine only points to the library, so your library needs to be installed somewhere (like a hard drive).
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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No.
Maschine software can be use as a stand alone software but the whole point of Maschine is its hardware controller.
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4th July 2012
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#4 | | Gear Guru
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I use it 99% without the hardware.
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#5 | | Gear addict
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Have the hardware in the box, but happy I bought it!!
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4th July 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter |
can you just buy the plugin/vst or do you must get both (hw+sw)
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4th July 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by chrisso I use it 99% without the hardware. | You're weird
There are in fact functions that can be accessed easily without using the controller.
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4th July 2012
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by andy3 can you just buy the plugin/vst or do you must get both (hw+sw) | Nope you get both.
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4th July 2012
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#9 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Dallas, TX
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Native Instruments built them to be used together and has no plans to release them separately. [removed by moderator]
Btw they just dropped the price by 200 on the full size, 100 on the mikro. Both come with the full version of software.
You could sell the hardware - keep the software and make some of your money back. I know some people would pick up the mikro to compliment their full size and consequently not need the software anyway.
new prices:
Maschine: 399
Maschine Mikro: 250
Last edited by Reptil; 4th July 2012 at 09:17 PM..
Reason: warning: no warez talk!
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5th July 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter |
Thank you guys. So basically with this maschine you can create sounds and work directly with wav format?
For example, I want a pad sound, I pickmaschine and I create it ecc?
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5th July 2012
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#11 | | Gear interested
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Maschine is not so much for creating sounds as it is about organizing them, similar to a DAW. You'd want something like Massive for actual sound creation.
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5th July 2012
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#12 | | Banned
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Originally Posted by b_adl_y Maschine is not so much for creating sounds as it is about organizing them, similar to a DAW. You'd want something like Massive for actual sound creation. | ^^ What this guy said.
The maschine is just a controller / sequencer / fx unit.
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#13 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by b_adl_y You could sell the hardware - keep the software and make some of your money back. | I can't imagine who would want the hardware without the software.
The hardware is useful, but I tend to work with the software most of the time.
Yeah, machine is like a sequencer/librarian.
The WAVS aren't created by Maschine, they are organised and sequenced by Maschine. But you also send midi from your DAW.
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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It blows my mind that people operate the software without the hardware.
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#15 | | Gear Guru
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Each to their own, ya know?
I like the library, I like the ease of sampling my own sounds. I like to edit some of the pre-programmed grooves.
Occasionally I tweak something using the hardware, but usually I drop the sounds straight onto an audio track in my DAW and work from there.
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5th July 2012
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#16 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by chrisso Each to their own, ya know?
I like the library, I like the ease of sampling my own sounds. I like to edit some of the pre-programmed grooves.
Occasionally I tweak something using the hardware, but usually I drop the sounds straight onto an audio track in my DAW and work from there. | For me, I mostly use the hardware for (functions) save, copy/paste, split pattern, double pattern, pattern length, tempo, master volume, quantize, nudge (super handy).
As far as sequencing I'm mostly mouse. My brain prefers the visual sequencer on my PC monitor.
Still, Maschine is super handy and the sequencer makes the most sense of everything out there (for me). I produce entirely in Maschine.
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5th July 2012
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#17 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by chrisso I use it 99% without the hardware. | Why? I mean really if you need a drum sequencer software and don;t need th controller there are much better options out there like Geist and BPM. If you actually need the hardware integration then there is no better game in town (at the moment). Without the hardware, Maschine gets easily outclassed by other software in its category.
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6th July 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter |
Oops. Yep Massive. (not maschine)
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7th July 2012
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#19 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by apoclypse Why? I mean really if you need a drum sequencer software and don;t need th controller there are much better options out there like Geist and BPM. | I'm not sure about that.
I have been tempted by Nerve.
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7th July 2012
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#20 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by b_adl_y Maschine is not so much for creating sounds as it is about organizing them, similar to a DAW. You'd want something like Massive for actual sound creation. | More specifically, you cannot design synth patches directly in Maschine... but you can definitely record and edit samples on it.
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#21 | | Gear Head
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If you only need a drum sequencer, take the best of all : Fruity Loops. The fastest workflow ever. And it's cheap.
Me i don't use the software anymore, it's just there to fire the sounds, but i do all the sequencing outside in Cubase, which is sometimes cumbersome but less than having a sequencer inside a sequencer.
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7th July 2012
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by freudes e but less than having a sequencer inside a sequencer. | Yep
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9th July 2012
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#23 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 11
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Originally Posted by chrisso I can't imagine who would want the hardware without the software. | 1. Maschine can be used as a midi controller for other software.
2. Some people might already have Maschine, and would like a second controller (e.g. backup, replacement, gearslut, etc.)
Last edited by b_adl_y; 9th July 2012 at 07:21 AM..
Reason: Slut is acceptable but wh0r3 is not? haAhaha
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9th July 2012
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#24 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Dallas, TX
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Originally Posted by stevefridel Yes machine need some hardware because its all depend on its component and all components are called hardware. Hardware is a all physical content of computer and some devices. | Not true, you can use the Maschine software w/o the hardware. I know because I demoed the software while waiting for the controller to come in (bought of eBay and seller uploaded the software for me in advance).
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