MIDI questions for BFD

vicprobey · 12th June 2006, 05:50 AM

Hello,

Complete Midi newbie here. I have programmed drums once or twice with logic. Just got into a copy of BFD Lite for PT 7 and I'm wondering what do I need to do to program drums correctly? I can play a decent kick/snare part with my keyboard but what do I need to actually program drums? Does anyone know of a BFD has an option like Logic's drum programs where you can click the part in opposed to playing it? Anyone know of a BFD tutorial?

One more question. Whats the deal with the flange sound on the drums? They sound great through the monitors when tracking but upon playback their are flangy and off. Any help would be appreciated.

gfx · 12th June 2006, 10:40 AM

Hi ,

You program BFD in the same manner as any other instrument.

So you can play the notes in via keyboard or external drum trigger or indeed with the mouse using the pencil tool in PT.

If you are getting flanging then it sounds like something is also playing from the groove librarian.

Check that respond to groove notes is switched of in the options panel.

Here is a little animated walkthrough to help

http://www.fxpansion1.com/fxstore/bfdguide.html

There is also a demo video on our website here :

http://fxpansion.com/product-bfd-main.php

Scroll to the bottom of the page 'BFD tutorial'

Hope this helps.

Thanks

GFX

FXpansion Audio UK Ltd.

tgfoyl1472 · 17th June 2006, 05:41 AM

Hi GFX,

Has BFD been update to Universal Binary yet? So it can run un the new Intel Macs? I am thinking of buying BFD but I am also thinking of buying a Macbook because of the increase processing power which I am sure will help in running BFD.

Thanks

gfx · 17th June 2006, 01:30 PM

Hi ,

Yes we have a unibin version available.

Cheers

GFX

FXpansion Audio UK Ltd

xmostynx · 17th June 2006, 03:56 PM

BFD!!!! man i programmed like 10 tunes using BFD-all got scrapped on the actual cd...BASTARDS! haha they chose electronic drums over the BFD samples-PM me man if you still need help- i'm pretty well versed in that plug

Harsh · 17th June 2006, 04:24 PM

When using BFD I will generally play the kick and snare seperately, then add another midi track and play the hats, then another track and add cymbals etc. quantize to taste if needed after everytake. playing to me makes more sense because that way things don't sound to mechanical.

xmostynx · 17th June 2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harsh

When using BFD I will generally play the kick and snare seperately, then add another midi track and play the hats, then another track and add cymbals etc. quantize to taste if needed after everytake. playing to me makes more sense because that way things don't sound to mechanical.

don't you track your bfd drums? i have a killer tutorial in a magazine..i'm looking around the studio for it...hmmmahh ha!! future music october 05- check out their website it might be up there-if not i'll scan it in for anyone interested

www.futuremusicmag.com

Harsh · 17th June 2006, 04:38 PM

go to new posts and look for my song that I want reviewed....."Please Review(bfd etc.)

I played the song with this technique..... I've been looking for a used electronic kit so I can track the drums but all I have right now is a keyboard.

xmostynx · 17th June 2006, 04:41 PM

right on man i used the roland v kit...td-20? i believe its been a while since i've been in that studio..anyways that module rocks at mapping over into bfd-you can't play it listening to the bfd samples-the latency is just a tadddd to late- i was using a pretty speedy comp too. anyways man good luck!

Angus_FX · 19th June 2006, 01:25 PM

Speedy computer isn't the be-all and end-all, you also need to make sure you've got a good sound card with the buffer size set suitably small.. BFD will run at 1ms on a fast machine, but that will have a negative impact on your track and plugin count.. i.e. if you are running it on the same machine as a big DAW session with lots of audio tracks and native plug-ins, you won't be able to go as low.

DAWgEAR · 19th June 2006, 04:21 PM

Once the project is underway, soundcard latency isn't so much a problem ... plugin delay compensation is what spoils live input for me. In Cubase SX, this can be deactivated, but then the feel of rest of the arrangement sounds quite different.

Methlab · 19th June 2006, 04:41 PM

I just make the drums first, and get them how I want them, so feel on other tracks is not an issue.

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12th June 2006, 05:50 AM	#1
vicprobey Gear Head Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 39	MIDI questions for BFD Hello, Complete Midi newbie here. I have programmed drums once or twice with logic. Just got into a copy of BFD Lite for PT 7 and I'm wondering what do I need to do to program drums correctly? I can play a decent kick/snare part with my keyboard but what do I need to actually program drums? Does anyone know of a BFD has an option like Logic's drum programs where you can click the part in opposed to playing it? Anyone know of a BFD tutorial? One more question. Whats the deal with the flange sound on the drums? They sound great through the monitors when tracking but upon playback their are flangy and off. Any help would be appreciated.

17th June 2006, 05:41 AM	#3
tgfoyl1472 Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 16	Is BFD Universal Binary yet? Hi GFX, Has BFD been update to Universal Binary yet? So it can run un the new Intel Macs? I am thinking of buying BFD but I am also thinking of buying a Macbook because of the increase processing power which I am sure will help in running BFD. Thanks

17th June 2006, 04:24 PM	#6
Harsh Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nashville Posts: 260	When using BFD I will generally play the kick and snare seperately, then add another midi track and play the hats, then another track and add cymbals etc. quantize to taste if needed after everytake. playing to me makes more sense because that way things don't sound to mechanical. __________________ www.harshmedia.com "digital design for the creative mind"

17th June 2006, 04:38 PM	#8
Harsh Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nashville Posts: 260	go to new posts and look for my song that I want reviewed....."Please Review(bfd etc.) I played the song with this technique..... I've been looking for a used electronic kit so I can track the drums but all I have right now is a keyboard. __________________ www.harshmedia.com "digital design for the creative mind"

12th June 2006, 10:40 AM	#2
gfx Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 312	Hi , You program BFD in the same manner as any other instrument. So you can play the notes in via keyboard or external drum trigger or indeed with the mouse using the pencil tool in PT. If you are getting flanging then it sounds like something is also playing from the groove librarian. Check that respond to groove notes is switched of in the options panel. Here is a little animated walkthrough to help http://www.fxpansion1.com/fxstore/bfdguide.html There is also a demo video on our website here : http://fxpansion.com/product-bfd-main.php Scroll to the bottom of the page 'BFD tutorial' Hope this helps. Thanks GFX FXpansion Audio UK Ltd.

17th June 2006, 01:30 PM	#4
gfx Gear addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 312	Hi , Yes we have a unibin version available. Cheers GFX FXpansion Audio UK Ltd

17th June 2006, 03:56 PM	#5
xmostynx Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,642	BFD!!!! man i programmed like 10 tunes using BFD-all got scrapped on the actual cd...BASTARDS! haha they chose electronic drums over the BFD samples-PM me man if you still need help- i'm pretty well versed in that plug

17th June 2006, 04:41 PM	#9
xmostynx Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,642	right on man i used the roland v kit...td-20? i believe its been a while since i've been in that studio..anyways that module rocks at mapping over into bfd-you can't play it listening to the bfd samples-the latency is just a tadddd to late- i was using a pretty speedy comp too. anyways man good luck!

19th June 2006, 01:25 PM	#10
Angus_FX Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 238	Speedy computer isn't the be-all and end-all, you also need to make sure you've got a good sound card with the buffer size set suitably small.. BFD will run at 1ms on a fast machine, but that will have a negative impact on your track and plugin count.. i.e. if you are running it on the same machine as a big DAW session with lots of audio tracks and native plug-ins, you won't be able to go as low. __________________ Angus F. Hewlett, CEO FXpansion Audio http://www.fxpansion.com

19th June 2006, 04:21 PM	#11
DAWgEAR Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 992	Once the project is underway, soundcard latency isn't so much a problem ... plugin delay compensation is what spoils live input for me. In Cubase SX, this can be deactivated, but then the feel of rest of the arrangement sounds quite different. __________________ " the wrist of the listener will always turn up the volume for you more effectively than any brick wall compression ever could." -- Stav from Mixing With Your Mind

19th June 2006, 04:41 PM	#12
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,421	I just make the drums first, and get them how I want them, so feel on other tracks is not an issue.

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