Can We Talk About Bit Depth?

2586391652 · 5th June 2006, 01:38 AM

is there a program or plug-in out there that allows 12-bit rendering/12-bit depth conversation?
or are we stuck with 16+?

someone learned please help.
Thanks.

max cooper · 5th June 2006, 01:50 AM

There are bit reduction plugins.

Master Destrukto by Audio Damage is one.

But it doesn't tell you what the bit rate is, it just has a slider but it definitely goes lower than 12 bits. You gotta use your ears.

max cooper · 5th June 2006, 01:55 AM

I almost forgot. PSP Nitro does Samplerate and Bitrate reduction. You can set the bitrate to tenths of bits.

Justynfromnz · 5th June 2006, 02:54 AM

there's a bit reduction plug in logic...goes down to 1 bit if you want...but i think you must still output at 16...although itunes will convert to 8bit if you like...umm...

aussie_techie · 5th June 2006, 04:55 AM

Lo-Fi if your use ProTools

2586391652 · 5th June 2006, 08:23 PM

anyone else know anything?

2586391652 · 6th June 2006, 02:44 AM

does anyone else know anything about this?

Kiwiburger · 6th June 2006, 03:46 AM

What are you trying to do? If you are making audio CDs, you have to be in 16 bit format. Do you just want the crunchy sound of old 12 bit samplers? If so, the bit depth reduction plugins that come with most DAWs, or the ones mentioned above, will get some of that distorted sound - but none of the analog path that contributed to the actual "sound" of those boxes.

Setting bit depth reduction to "10ths of a bit" sounds like a joke ...

2586391652 · 6th June 2006, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwiburger

What are you trying to do? If you are making audio CDs, you have to be in 16 bit format. Do you just want the crunchy sound of old 12 bit samplers? If so, the bit depth reduction plugins that come with most DAWs, or the ones mentioned above, will get some of that distorted sound - but none of the analog path that contributed to the actual "sound" of those boxes.

Setting bit depth reduction to "10ths of a bit" sounds like a joke ...

What does DAW stand for? (no newb-o)

& yeah, thats exactly what I want...
I guess you're saying I'm going to have to come outta pocket to get that 12-bit sound...

-sighes-

Improv · 6th June 2006, 06:17 AM

DAW means "Digital Audio Workstation," or, what program you use for recording. Tell us which one you use, and then we can tell you if you need to spend any money or not. Most likely you won't.

Lagerfeldt · 6th June 2006, 11:27 AM

Logic's BitCrusher can reduce to any bitdepth, max. 24 bits though.

Unlike other Logic plug-ins, it doesn't output 32 bit float (of course).

If you're in doubt about the bit depth of a given plug-in or output you can download and install the free BitViewer plug-in from Toby Bear.

http://www.popmusic.dk/links-uk.html

The link is near the top under free plug-ins (apulsoft - Bitviewer).

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5th June 2006, 01:38 AM	#1
2586391652 Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 61	Can We Talk About Bit Depth? is there a program or plug-in out there that allows 12-bit rendering/12-bit depth conversation? or are we stuck with 16+? someone learned please help. Thanks.

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Justynfromnz Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auckland , NZ Posts: 124	there's a bit reduction plug in logic...goes down to 1 bit if you want...but i think you must still output at 16...although itunes will convert to 8bit if you like...umm... __________________ Sorry About the Mess

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Lagerfeldt Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,573	Logic's BitCrusher can reduce to any bitdepth, max. 24 bits though. Unlike other Logic plug-ins, it doesn't output 32 bit float (of course). If you're in doubt about the bit depth of a given plug-in or output you can download and install the free BitViewer plug-in from Toby Bear. http://www.popmusic.dk/links-uk.html The link is near the top under free plug-ins (apulsoft - Bitviewer). __________________ Producer & engineer Apple Certified Trainer in Logic Pro Popmusic.dk Production Hit Kit V3 Sample CD Urban & Electronic Beat Production - used on Billboard #1 hits (recently on: Katy Perry, Britney, Usher, Jordin Sparks, Leona Lewis, Sugababes, The Pussycat Dolls)

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5th June 2006, 01:50 AM	#2
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	There are bit reduction plugins. Master Destrukto by Audio Damage is one. But it doesn't tell you what the bit rate is, it just has a slider but it definitely goes lower than 12 bits. You gotta use your ears.

5th June 2006, 01:55 AM	#3
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	I almost forgot. PSP Nitro does Samplerate and Bitrate reduction. You can set the bitrate to tenths of bits.

5th June 2006, 04:55 AM	#5
aussie_techie Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 2,040	Lo-Fi if your use ProTools

5th June 2006, 08:23 PM	#6
2586391652 Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 61	anyone else know anything?

6th June 2006, 02:44 AM	#7
2586391652 Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 61	does anyone else know anything about this?

6th June 2006, 03:46 AM	#8
Kiwiburger Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,816	What are you trying to do? If you are making audio CDs, you have to be in 16 bit format. Do you just want the crunchy sound of old 12 bit samplers? If so, the bit depth reduction plugins that come with most DAWs, or the ones mentioned above, will get some of that distorted sound - but none of the analog path that contributed to the actual "sound" of those boxes. Setting bit depth reduction to "10ths of a bit" sounds like a joke ...

6th June 2006, 06:17 AM	#10
Improv Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,367	DAW means "Digital Audio Workstation," or, what program you use for recording. Tell us which one you use, and then we can tell you if you need to spend any money or not. Most likely you won't.