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Old 16th May 2012   #1
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Have you tried this?

There are guitar pedals that come with speaker simulator so you can plug it straight to your puter but what about those who don't, can I record them straight to puter(terrible sound) and use those impulses cabs vsts to make it sound good?
Did anybody try it?
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Yeah do this all the time You can get hardware impulse loaders like such pedals.

Two methods:
Take Preamp Output (if amp offers it) or FX Loop Send into your interface. It's line level. Chuck the cab impusle on that.

Or take speaker output to Attenuator/Load box like a THD Hotplate, then to your interface. NEVER plug the speaker output straight to your interface - things will get fried.

The first option bypasses the poweramp. Second option you are including the poweramp hense the need for a loadbox.

Having the poweramp in there might sound more realistic.

Either way this works very well

Make sure to keep a speaker plugged in if using the first method, else the poweramp will still have no load. If noise is an issue and your reason behind doing this, you can keep the preamp gain up and the poweramp gain (master vol) down. That way the cab will still be plugged in but no sound will come out. This is if you are plugged into Preamp Out.

If you plug into FX Send you don't need to worry anyway as it will cut off the sound as you aren't going back into the Return. (Unless your loop is parallel rather than series)
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Entity I'm talking about pedals(hence I said guitar pedals ) and not amps.
I know how to do it but I just want to know if somebody already plugged a boss distortion pedal(as an example) straight to a daw and used those impulses to make it sound good
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If you want clean usable sound you should use a DI box before your interface.
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If you want clean usable sound you should use a DI box before your interface.
Did you read my example right above your reply?
I don't want any particular tone, I'm talking about pedals with no speaker simulator.
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Did you read my example right above your reply?
I don't want any particular tone, I'm talking about pedals with no speaker simulator.
PEDALS

Yes, I read your example. If you chain is: guitar - pedal - line in; you're going to get a degraded signal due to wrong impedance. Hence the DI box. It has nothing to do with speaker simulation or a "particular tone".

Edit: But if it sounds good to you the way it is, by all means go for it.
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Oops :D

^ Yes that's true, pedals put out the same signal as guitars, designed to go into the front of an amp. DI box or Hi-Z instrument input on the interface.

Hmm..I've had Tubescreamers come close to a decent overdrive amp tone so I guess theoretically into a cab it would work.
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The other day,I plugged my Franken Strat[S.D JB Humbucker] directly into the line in on my dell xps i7[no D.I. box-wrong impedance yes] just to get an idea down in Sonar X1.

By not having anything in the chain whatsoever,and turning the volume on the guitar "down" ever so slightly[not to clip/as well as to lose some lows]I get a very thuddy,very clean signal,then after trying Guitar Rig 5 etc[FX bin],I then got an outrageous good distortion "Rhthym" sound,just with the Free "KUASSA" amp sim.

I'm going to re-do the track with my mic'ed Marshall,but the sound I'm getting,by going direct,with this laptop,and the kuassa,is really surprising,and I'll be surprised[again] if the Marshall is better!

For leads[of any amount of gain-clean to endless sustain] I cannot[so far] use ANY amp sims AT ALL though,I have to have the pickup-speaker interaction, I can't be satisfied with ANY of the ITB sims,in THAT regard,but rhthym...amazed.

When I can work out how to post a .wav,I will,but @47 and only 12 months computer use...ever,it may be a little while[very embarrassing],nonetheless it does sound rockin!
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Or I wasn't clear enough or you guys aren't understanding my question.
Forget about guitars and amps, my question is about pedals without speaker simulators.
If you plug a Boss distortion pedal(even with a DI box) straight to a DAW, it'll sound terrible cause there's NO speaker simulator, SO what about after recorded that terrible sound adding an impulse vst(speaker simulator)?
There are guys who have a bunch of pedals but can't plug them directly to DAW cause they don't have a speaker simulator so I was wondering if a vst impulse(speaker simulator) will solve that problem.
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Like I said,
'Hmm..I've had Tubescreamers come close to a decent overdrive amp tone so I guess theoretically into a cab it would work. '

By that I mean using Tubescreamer on a clean channel, or using a Tubescreamer plugin on it's own into a cab sim.

I'd imagine with some tweaking a OD or Dist pedal with cab sim would be pretty usable.
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Like I said,
'Hmm..I've had Tubescreamers come close to a decent overdrive amp tone so I guess theoretically into a cab it would work. '

By that I mean using Tubescreamer on a clean channel, or using a Tubescreamer plugin on it's own into a cab sim.

I'd imagine with some tweaking a OD or Dist pedal with cab sim would be pretty usable.
Ok but you never did it.
I imagine it would be pretty usable too but I asked if somebody did it, he could share his results
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I'd imagine it wouldn't be much different at all to the Tubescreamer plugin
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I'd imagine it wouldn't be much different at all to the Tubescreamer plugin
Agreed but like I said, there are guys with huge pedalboards and they want to record their pedals and not use plugins cause their pedals have the sound they want so it would be cool plugging their pedalboards straight to a daw and use Recabnet(as an example).
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Look what I found
So...somebody did it and it sounds good.

BOSS DS-1 + Recabinet Complete 2.02 - YouTube
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you can hear solo'd tracks momentarily bypassed at 1:58, 2:25 and 2:57. Using a pedal (s) instead of an amp won't sound identical but will also give great results with the right settings as well. Hopefully, we will have a demo using just pedals shortly.

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Ok but you never did it.
I imagine it would be pretty usable too but I asked if somebody did it, he could share his results
So why not just try it?

I've recorded with distortion pedals plus clean amp sim...sounds pretty much like distortion pedal into clean amp.
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