The new intel chip is here!!!
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23rd April 2012
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The new intel chip is here!!!

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23rd April 2012
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and nothing to see or talk about as addressed in my benchmarks thread..
sadly no improvement.. not even in the thermal dept. which is the whole point of a die shrink...

and technically no its not here... they dont ship until the 29th
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24th April 2012
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Man what a racket.Every 6 months,your latest,greatest computer is old news.
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24th April 2012
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perhaps Intel should have stopped at a P133X so as not upset people
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24th April 2012
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Will be interesting to see what this offers for DAW users
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24th April 2012
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Compared to the current Sandy Bridge architecture, the new processors have both faster clock speeds and lower power consumption. Overall it's a modest speed increase that's optimized for notebooks.

From an ArsTechnica.com piece today:

"The standard, mainstream desktop processors now dissipate only 77W, compared to Sandy Bridge's 95W. Low power parts dissipate either 65W (for "S" model numbers) or 45W (for "T" model numbers). Clock speeds range from 2.3 GHz/3.3 GHz turbo, for the 45W Core i5-3570T, to 3.5 GHz/3.9 GHz turbo, for the overclockable Core i7-3770K. The mobile parts come in at 35W, 45W, and, for the top-end Extreme-branded processor, 55W. The 35W processor, the i7-3612QM, runs at 2.1 GHz/3.1 GHz turbo; the 55W chip runs at 2.9 GHz/3.8 GHz turbo....

" Tech Report's benchmarks cover a wide range of scenarios—gaming, productivity, scientific computing—and paint a consistent picture time and time again: Ivy Bridge is a little bit faster than the four core Sandy Bridges, and it uses a lot less power than Sandy Bridges, but workloads that spawn multiple compute-bound threads are still faster on the six core/twelve thread Sandy Bridge-E processors.

"Bucking tick conventions, however, is the new GPU. Not only does HD 4000 contain 33 percent more cores than HD 3000, with 16 shader cores compared to 12; each shader core is also more powerful, with larger caches, more threads per core, and more execution resources per core. HD 4000 (and HD 2500, which is half an HD 4000) also supports Direct3D 11.0, compared to HD 3000's Direct3D 10. The display drivers will initially support OpenGL 3 and OpenCL 1.1; future updates should increase this to OpenGL 4. A detailed examination of the new GPU architecture can be found at Real World Technologies.

The result of the work done to the GPU is that it's a lot faster than the old one. AnandTech's review examines HD 4000's performance in a wide range of games and a small number of computational tasks. The GPU isn't going to challenge high-end discrete cards any time soon, but it's a healthy improvement on its predecessor, typically between 20 and 50 percent faster.
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24th April 2012
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I'm pretty bummed that they put so much effort into a GPU instead of CPU. I doubt that will be any help in the music production aspect. (your vu meter might run more smoothly) Can someone estimate for me how much improvement I would see over an i7-930 compared to one of the new chips?
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24th April 2012
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hmmm I just bought my new computer a month ago. It has a 2nd generation i3 chip in it. It works frigging great and now it's already out dated. That's okay I'm not planning on buying another computer for about 5 years.
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24th April 2012
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hmmm I just bought my new computer a month ago. It has a 2nd generation i3 chip in it. It works frigging great and now it's already out dated. That's okay I'm not planning on buying another computer for about 5 years.
Just wait until when you want to use izotope 5. That thing can take up nearly my whole CPU performance on an i7 930!
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24th April 2012
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so will current i7 prices drop?
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Wow, glad u straightened us out on that little detail,




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and technically no its not here... they dont ship until the 29th
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24th April 2012
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The result of the work done to the GPU is that it's a lot faster than the old one. AnandTech's review examines HD 4000's performance in a wide range of games and a small number of computational tasks. The GPU isn't going to challenge high-end discrete cards any time soon, but it's a healthy improvement on its predecessor, typically between 20 and 50 percent faster.
I'm running Mass effect 3 on my laptop I7's hd3000 gpu @60 fps.the same as xbox 360,I'm happy.

Though all the shades might not be there,but it look fantastic.

I had a i5 lappy with a decent video card,and I could switch between graphics card and the CPU's gpu and the hd3000 power isn't bad at all.

The i7 scale higher than the i5 so the i7 hd3000 is more powerful.

I'd love to have hd4000,its funny when people say what they can't do.

But there amazing...

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24th April 2012
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Just wait until when you want to use izotope 5. That thing can take up nearly my whole CPU performance on an i7 930!
I just do simple recording and some midi sequencing, hardly a drain at all. Sonar X1 and Audition CS 5.5 both work great with it. The big plus is that the i3 runs very cool and very little heat gets generated. The i3 is waaay better than my old Core2Duo. So even though the i3 is now outdated it's still a good chip for me.

I didn't want a power house computer, just something simple.
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24th April 2012
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I run my core i5 2500 at 4.8ish ghz with a noctua air cooler... cheap and fast

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24th April 2012
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I run my core i5 2500 at 4.8ish ghz with a noctua air cooler... cheap and fast

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4.8 ghz! Damn I have that chip in my main daws machine,but I have uad dsp cards.that's why I didn't go for a higher CPU.

The i5 is more than I need,its hella fast.

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That noctua is huge.. flattest mounting surface in the industry... also the antec 1200 case(size) and asus bios help

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24th April 2012
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more importantly, will the i7 cpu prices drop down?? specially the i7 3820 cuz im planning to get it with an x79 mobo, or should you wait for a little bit??
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Intel pricing does not really go down. When a faster CPU in a range is released (like i7 990 vs 980), all models shift their price down. So it makes no sense to wait.
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Intel pricing does not really go down. When a faster CPU in a range is released (like i7 990 vs 980), all models shift their price down. So it makes no sense to wait.
Yea the q6600 is really close to a i5,at least it was when I got my i5.

It's a $10 difference,isn't the q6600 5 years old?

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24th April 2012
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so will current i7 prices drop?
I'm hoping so.
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24th April 2012
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Yea the q6600 is really close to a i5,at least it was when I got my i5.
wow? you'd thing i5 would be a noticeable step up
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24th April 2012
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he meant in price not performance
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wow? you'd thing i5 would be a noticeable step up
Sorry about that,yea I meant price.

The i5 is an amazing CPU,people always talk about more expensive chips.

I did strain test 4x my normal work load with the i5.loaded the project,them I keep adding waves SSL channel strips(I could only load 2 instances on my old x2 4400 Amd dual core).

One I got to 30 instances of the SSL,the CPU yielded around 28-31%.think turbo boosts kicked in because after adding ten more(after that) the CPU stood at 31%.

I was happy at that point,because their were other Plugins already filling the project.

My build was under $600 with 16 gigs Iof RAM,1.1 terrabytes of hd space.no graphic card,hd3000 w/aeroglass enable!

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24th April 2012
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Sorry about that,yea I meant price.

The i5 is an amazing CPU,people always talk about more expensive chips.

I did strain test 4x my normal work load with the i5.loaded the project,them I keep adding waves SSL channel strips(I could only load 2 instances on my old x2 4400 Amd dual core).

One I got to 30 instances of the SSL,the CPU yielded around 28-31%.think turbo boosts kicked in because after adding ten more(after that) the CPU stood at 31%.

I was happy at that point,because their were other Plugins already filling the project.

My build was under $600 with 16 gigs Iof RAM,1.1 terrabytes of hd space.no graphic card,hd3000 w/aeroglass enable!

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yes we're in a truly good place with Native systems at the moment, as you said for $600 you're getting an absolutely amazing machine


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25th April 2012
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For me, the thing about just opening a bunch of the same plugin isn't the issue with performance. With my i7-930 I can open I think 70-100 massive instances all playing one note init. When I have more than 5 automations going, lets say 2 filters on a complex massive patch, a filter on sylenth, and 2 ableton ping delay filter and resonance automations going, it chokes pretty bad. My template has about 50 tracks most not doing anything, since it's easier to delete tracks than set them up. Does anyone know if these empty audio tracks routing groups, and idle vst midi tracks effect performance? Possibly even after being deleted(because of undo history etc.)?
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25th April 2012
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Intel pricing does not really go down. When a faster CPU in a range is released (like i7 990 vs 980), all models shift their price down. So it makes no sense to wait.
will even the motherboard prices go down? cuz the x79 platform prices are crazY!
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25th April 2012
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For me, the thing about just opening a bunch of the same plugin isn't the issue with performance. With my i7-930 I can open I think 70-100 massive instances all playing one note init. When I have more than 5 automations going, lets say 2 filters on a complex massive patch, a filter on sylenth, and 2 ableton ping delay filter and resonance automations going, it chokes pretty bad. My template has about 50 tracks most not doing anything, since it's easier to delete tracks than set them up. Does anyone know if these empty audio tracks routing groups, and idle vst midi tracks effect performance? Possibly even after being deleted(because of undo history etc.)?
No not in cubase at least,that's what vst 3.0 is all about.

Though some third party Plugins aren't up to code,waves surely is.

Vst 3.0 Plugins do not use CPU until audio is going through the plugin in it self,like a automatic on/off switch.

If your using cubase,you'll know the vst 3.0 Plugins because they will have 3 strips next to the name when loading.

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25th April 2012
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will even the motherboard prices go down? cuz the x79 platform prices are crazY!
DOn't expect much until a board becomes EOL and resellers start discounting their stock.
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25th April 2012
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Maybe Apple will ship new MacBookPro's soon too?

RGH
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25th April 2012
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DOn't expect much until a board becomes EOL and resellers start discounting their stock.
and i guess thats not happening any soon right?
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