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Old 12th April 2012   #1
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iZotope Alloy 2

A little birdie told me this is in the pipeline and people are already hard a t work making the preset's for it.

I love Alloy I use it all the time it is my go to plugin.

What features would you like to see in the new version?

I would like to see the addition of M/S processing.

I would also like to see the ability to add the Phase Tool Waveform display to the Macro GUI.
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I love this plugin as well. How reliable is the source that told you about v.2? Do you have an idea of when?
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M/S me too. I would like to see a more user friendly and cooler sounding compressor section. I'd love for the EQ to sound like the one in Ozone.
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Hi guy's.Can you tell me, this plagin approach for voiceover works??
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I'd like to see the parameter automation become more compatible witgh Cubase.

It seems like it causes clicks and pops if you just try to autpomate a module in and out as a whole, and you can't change a value by typing it in (for example, if you want to change several values at one by the same amount, so you highhlight the automation points and type in a new value for the first one) - instead you ghave to drag the automation points, which isn't as easy and precise.
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I'd like to see the parameter automation become more compatible witgh Cubase.
While neither confirming nor denying any rumors that we may have some integer-level version bumps to some of our products on the horizon, I'd like to speak to this.

This was one of the things that we improved for Ozone 5, but probably is not on the huge checklist of features for that product. It was very important for us to make automation more smooth, especially for mission critical stuff like EQ. If you get a chance, Mr. Schizoid, could you please tell me if you find automation to be more fluid with Ozone 5 than with Alloy? Even if you only use the demo, knowing if it's an improvement on your machine or not would mean the world to me.

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While neither confirming nor denying any rumors that we may have some integer-level version bumps to some of our products on the horizon, I'd like to speak to this.

This was one of the things that we improved for Ozone 5, but probably is not on the huge checklist of features for that product. It was very important for us to make automation more smooth, especially for mission critical stuff like EQ. If you get a chance, Mr. Schizoid, could you please tell me if you find automation to be more fluid with Ozone 5 than with Alloy? Even if you only use the demo, knowing if it's an improvement on your machine or not would mean the world to me.

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I have Ozone 4 & Alloy. and I have noticed that activating/deactivating module during play back in a session in Cubase causes artifacts. This is not the case with Alloy so that you can A/B things really smoothly. I am not sure if this is the case with Ozone 5.
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While neither confirming nor denying any rumors that we may have some integer-level version bumps to some of our products on the horizon, I'd like to speak to this.

This was one of the things that we improved for Ozone 5, but probably is not on the huge checklist of features for that product. It was very important for us to make automation more smooth, especially for mission critical stuff like EQ. If you get a chance, Mr. Schizoid, could you please tell me if you find automation to be more fluid with Ozone 5 than with Alloy? Even if you only use the demo, knowing if it's an improvement on your machine or not would mean the world to me.

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I just now demoed Ozone 5 advanced; the automation seems to work a lot better with Cubase. You can type in values in the info line and it works. Still cannot automate modules in and out entirely without glitching.
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Thanks, guys! Any glitches from bypass in Ozone are probably from the delay compensation changing. We're considering changing how our bypass state works, but we definitely don't want to impose Ozone's maximum latency on everything (a few hundred ms) if all someone wants to do is use the EQ or something. We just need to make a good design decision, but we know it's important. It should be less of an issue with Alloy because we minimize our latency in almost every process.
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Interesting, well this is important to me only because Alloy on the Mac is 32-bit only. And when I use it in Logic, it crashes the 32-bit bridge constantly. Sometimes every few minutes.
It takes over 1min to re-initialize all the plugins and so I absolutely refuse to use Alloy now because I just cannot get anything done. Possibly not Izotope's fault, but that's the way it is.

I'm about to purchase replacement compressor/eq/exciter and was considering getting FabFilter products because the UI provides such good feedback.

But if there's a new version of Alloy that is compiled 64-bit, then I would consider upgrading.

However, I can't hang around much longer. I'm not sure I can completely appreciate the need for Izotope to keep a new release secret, as it just makes it difficult for me to work out what I need to do.
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Izotope are renowned for surprises....and not letting on.
but i am guessing they will give us what we want and go to full 64 in time...
it is complex...look at UAD with all the resources they have...and a clearly stated intention....and still no news?!
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I'm better off without Alloy and Izotope in general :-)
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ha....yes... they struggle to keep my attention these days..but the RX is pretty stunning if you need it...which i do.

Updates are important though....
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True, True. It's just that support told me there were no plans for 64bit Alloy on Mac any time soon. That was about a month ago and so I sold the damn thing after waiting for too long already. It doesn't matter what they come up with now.
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I'm better off without Alloy and Izotope in general :-)
Surely you would check that it would work with your system before you bought the product.
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Anyone check the groove3 grand tour? This looks interesting!
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I love izotope stuff. Cant wait to see new nectar
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Are the compressor & limiter in Alloy 2 the same as in Ozone 5? I'm pretty much sold on the multi-band transient designer alone but, if yes, then it's a No-Brainer for me
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I am enjoying the update a good bit. It seems they have fixed most of the things I found lacking on the original version. I'm happy that there is still Direct X support as a program I have to use at work doesn't play well with other plug formats.
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I have alloy and i use it a lot,but I'm wondering if there is much sonic improvement between v1 and the new version?
There doesn't appear to be much incentive to upgrade really,I mean the colours look better but I don't want to pay money for something that sounds the same!
Any views on the comparison between the two?
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The EQ is the biggest step up to my ears. The comps and de-esser have improved as well. I have yet to mess with the exciter or transient mod sections but I would guess that they have also been improved.

The new display options are very handy. I didn't hesitate to pick this up.
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I have alloy and i use it a lot,but I'm wondering if there is much sonic improvement between v1 and the new version?
There doesn't appear to be much incentive to upgrade really,I mean the colours look better but I don't want to pay money for something that sounds the same!
Any views on the comparison between the two?
The transient mod is much better, try it on some drums it is awesome!
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What's cool is it's side-chainable and how many multi-band side-chainable fx do you know of because I don't know of many if any. Everything seems to have been made more usable including the exciter, great multi-band transient designer...very useful tool.
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Yes I've just been playing around with it,and it's definitely worth upgrading!
A really big improvement,and I was actually pretty happy with the first one anyway.
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BTW, I've also seen the video over at groove3 and they do a very comprehensive job explaining it and then showing examples of using it on specific instruments.
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I gave this baby a try and indeed way much better than Alloy 1. Only thing I found would have been cool to have aside all the features they've added on making this plugin a great #ToGo insert instruments weapeon (easy and quick to use) while sounding great is an OVERALL Wet/Dry Mix knob. Unless I didn't see it but would have been cool cuz sometimes you don't want to always go back at each module and start playing with the Wet/Dry knob.

Other than that a very complete little weapon to have. I might jump & bite but will wait a bit to see if they're planning to do so.

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If they allowed to use each module separately as an insert like Ozone 5 advanced, i would probably consider buying it.
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If they allowed to use each module separately as an insert like Ozone 5 advanced, i would probably consider buying it.
Yeah, but then you would have to pay $900 for it...
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