Flux Stereo Tool, please help!

[JonesH]

Lr pan simply pans the right channel to the left channel an vice versa.

Width is a MS matrix.

It's a very useful plug for correcting stereo imbalances.

(Edit: Huh, this was my 1000th post )

[Arkham00]

Originally Posted by JonesH

Lr pan simply pans the right channel to the left channel an vice versa.
.

Ok, but is the point in doing this ? I never used such tools before ...

[Arkham00]

I'll try to be more specific, how can I put an instrument, let's say, at 11 o'clock, using this tool ?

[allstar]

Originally Posted by Arkham00

I'll try to be more specific, how can I put an instrument, let's say, at 11 o'clock, using this tool ?

That depends where it was to start with. If the sound originally comes from 9 o'clock then you'd need to move the pan control over to the left some. If the sound comes from 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock then you'd need to lessen the width and move the pan over.

It is a very useful plug-in on stereo sources. On mono sources it's little more than a pan pot / gain control

The width control helps you collapse the stereo image back down to mono but instead of it being all or nothing you can do it partially. A lot of people somehow forget that mono and stereo are not just all or nothing, on or off, there's a continuum between them. but I like your xibit exhibit as the example of the example. Pretty funny.

[JonesH]

Originally Posted by Arkham00

Ok, but is the point in doing this ? I never used such tools before ...

The point would be mainly to correct errors in the recorded stereo image.

[MetaP]

I realized that if you invert the Phase on one side (L or R), a quite narrow signal gets very wide, is there any reason why one shouldnt do this? could you get serious (phase) problems in your mix?

[stinkyfingers]

things that are on both sides equally will null in the center...you will lose the "mid"...
you are basically making it so you only have the "side" of a mid/side matrix...
L + R = Mid
L - R = Side

you could use a mid/side plug-in to play with the stereo image...
http://www.voxengo.com/product/msed/
http://www.brainworx-music.de/en/plugins/bx_solo

[MetaP]

thanks for the advice! I have the bx solo, but it somehow sounds way cooler when I reverse one phase to make it wider. i am wondering if it may disturb the listener?
because what i realize when i reverse one phase, is that it somehow scrambles my brain ^^... but only when I listen only to the signal i am changing, It is a pretty freaky synth fx -- it sounds fine in the mix (for me)
but thats actually what I am going for, I produce Psytrance, and this music is meant to screw with your head. the question is if this method is technically "correct"?

whats also funny to me:

when I put the bx solo on 400%, after that there is the flux Stereo tool, on which one phase is reversed, it doesnt go below 0 on the correlation meter, but when i turn off the bx solo, it goes to around -0.8...

[yetanotherjosh]

Originally Posted by MetaP

the question is if this method is technically "correct"?

It's pretty unusual to do complete phase inversion between the l/r channels for a part because when the two channels are mixed (which is inevitable), they will cancel each other out. This ruins the mix when your track gets played on consumer audio devices that aren't stereo. And for loud psytrance in a club situation, it will create a very uneven perception of the synth part's volume in the room (the volume depends heavily on where you stand in relation to the l/r speakers).

So, while it might sound trippy in headphones or in a studio environment, it's going to turn into a mess in the real world. Thus, I wouldn't recommend it for what it's worth. But as for "technically correct," I'm not sure what that means

[MetaP]

okay, then i'll better leave it! thx