Best virtual piano for film scoring?

[Danz03]

So true, but there are issues with my Walnut Grand using it with kontakt and logic. So I'm hoping this 1928 Legacy Grand sounds as good and is bug free.

Originally Posted by gregm1989

Kicks the hell out of Ivory and East West in my opinion.

[Tnevz]

Good to see 8dio getting some love here. I think they Mae some great stuff.

[pietrogirardi]

Originally Posted by TaiwanGuy

this is my instrument of choice for general piano: Galaxy Vintage D

listen to the back italien concerto demo. it's stunning.

and as a film composer myself, i wouldnt say that there is a piano that is good for film composing. i would say that you should find a fantastic sounding instrument and then utilize it according to your needs. if it is reverb or delays you are looking for, add them after the fact. dont get a piano that is limited to that kind of sound.

+1
Vintage D with the new 1.2 update is absolutely amazing...

[Ivorydom]

One more vote for me for Emotional Piano. It is very intimate, warm and very very responsive. I wouldn't use it for pop/rock stuff, just because it is not bright enough to cut through synths or distorted guitars.
I also have Eastwest Quantum Leap Pianos. These are also excellent for film scoring, I really like the Bechstein. One word of warning though: I wouldn't even go near QL Pianos at this point because there is a very serious bug that is related with the sustain pedal(Cubase and DP users have reported that). At some point the notes do NOT release so you are having one chord ringing while you play another. For me and a lot of users (check their forums) the situation is unworkable. I have stopped using QL Pianos 100% now. There is no way I can deal wit this problem, it destroys all your creativity.
If on the other hand they fix that, I believe that QL Pianos are up there with the best for Film scoring.

[Sotsirc]

I agree, I'm hearing it very clearly too.

[TaiwanGuy]

hopefully the problem is limited to the demos (i dont know why that would be though). it's a wonderful sounding instrument otherwise. for me personally, that static/hiss noise is a dealbreaker until i get some sort of proof that it's not an issue in the actual instrument. im not really in the market for a new piano instrument anyway. vintage d and the ew pianos are doing fine by me.

[Ned Bouhalassa]

Originally Posted by TaiwanGuy

hopefully the problem is limited to the demos (i dont know why that would be though). it's a wonderful sounding instrument otherwise. for me personally, that static/hiss noise is a dealbreaker until i get some sort of proof that it's not an issue in the actual instrument. im not really in the market for a new piano instrument anyway. vintage d and the ew pianos are doing fine by me.

And so you're participating in this thread so you can remind us to look for noise? Why bother if you're not even interested in buying a virtual piano to begin with?

[TaiwanGuy]

Originally Posted by Ned Bouhalassa

And so you're participating in this thread so you can remind us to look for noise? Why bother if you're not even interested in buying a virtual piano to begin with?

just giving an opinion. isn't that what this thread was about?

[Danz03]

I think the static noise could be from soundcloud, their player isn't that great sounding anyway. I am actually very interested in getting it but would still like to know if it has sympathetic resonance or not. The other product that I like a lot is their plucked piano.

Originally Posted by Ned Bouhalassa

And so you're participating in this thread so you can remind us to look for noise? Why bother if you're not even interested in buying a virtual piano to begin with?

[diogo_c]

+1 for Tonehammer Emotional Piano. The "blur" presets are very good sounding.

[Ned Bouhalassa]

Originally Posted by TaiwanGuy

just giving an opinion. isn't that what this thread was about?

It's just that in the same post, you go from calling it a deal-breaker for you, to saying you're not shopping anyways. Of course, I think you're entitled to your opinion.

I think it's a streaming issue. I have been using the 1928 for a day or two, and I hear no glitches, just beautiful sounds.

[Sotsirc]

I bought the Emotional piano, anyone else think the attack of the midrange keys sounds compressed?

[guavadude]

+10 on the Galaxy Vintage D. You can play very soft for a touchy feely cue. It's a very inspiring piano. Much better than all the other Galaxy pianos and has a small footprint too.

[Solar]

Its right here with Audio Demo, simply Stunning

The 1928

Legacy 1928 Grand Piano | ,

[donethur]

8DIO's piano sounds amazing...

[LogicBoy]

Hi,

I have listened to 8dio's piano....its very nice...i really like it....warm ...intimate...might get it at some point. I still like imperfect samples though and I still think it sounds sweeter, warmer and more intimate. I have been trying out pianoteq recently as a demo and I am coming to really grow fond of it. It just sounds so much more realistic and responsive...not just on live playing but also on recorded playback. I am definitely going to buy it soon.

Cheers

[Tui]

I wonder if the hissy noises in the 1928 have something to do with the (improper) use of plug-ins for the production of the demos...

I really would like to hear a dry demo.

[mirrorboy]

Originally Posted by Tui

I wonder if the hissy noises in the 1928 have something to do with the (improper) use of plug-ins for the production of the demos...

I really would like to hear a dry demo.

That's what I think may be going on....that pedal noise in the demos is very bass-y. Almost like it was too compressed and brought that sound up.

Anyways, I'll post a short demo later this evening for ya'll to analyze.

Scott

[biomuse]

Originally Posted by Danz03

So true, but there are issues with my Walnut Grand using it with kontakt and logic. So I'm hoping this 1928 Legacy Grand sounds as good and is bug free.

Please give some detail on this if you could - problem, piano version, Kontakt version, etc. Has the dev been responsive at all? Dealbreaker territory or no?

[biomuse]

Another question: is it possible to get a very dry, up close and intimate sound with the 8DIO? All of the demos seem to have a distant, soundtracky politesse to them, which I think is just the style of the demos, but I'd want to be sure of that. Because the in-your-face sound of the ImpSamp Steinway demos is something I'm finding impressive.

How to decide?

[mirrorboy]

For anyone interested....not gonna have time to post a quick demo of the Steinway till tomorrow (Sat at the latest).


Thx.

Scott

[Tui]

Originally Posted by mirrorboy

For anyone interested....not gonna have time to post a quick demo of the Steinway till tomorrow (Sat at the latest).


Thx.

Scott

OK, thanks. I'm looking forward to it.

[dariva]

Hi,
I'm also looking for a more "emotional" upright library and from the ones discussed above, it seems the Imperfect Samples Braunschweig is the closest to what I'm after. Judging from demos it is probably somewhat darker than the Emotional Piano, but it's a bit cheaper too, hence it has a better value ratio.
I also have the EWQL Gold pianos and favor the Bechstein too.

I've just come across the Cinematique Instruments Upright Piano which sounds a bit flatter on the demos, but has good bowed and fx patches. Does someone here own this one and if so, how do you feel about it, have you compared it to the rest?

Cheers!

[nativeaudio]

Originally Posted by PianoPerson

The Grand 3 does not have sympathetic resonance (which is not the same as sustain resonance). Nor does EWQL. This makes them unuseable for serious piano playing

Which virtual pianos have sympathetic resonance?

[Danz03]

All the Ivory II's ones, Alicia Keys, Imperfect Samples Walnut and Fazioli Grands just to name a few.

Originally Posted by nativeaudio

Which virtual pianos have sympathetic resonance?

[method1]

I'm hearing a nasty "clunking" sound in a few of the IS demos..is that just part of the "imperfect" character of these samples, or is it possible to turn that off?

[donethur]

sorry mi discrepancy, but I have Alicia Keys and it sounds like the piano of my ex Roland Juno G. It really sucks IMO for being a vsti... I feel I wasted my money. It is just my opinion.

cheers!

[donethur]

Originally Posted by PianoPerson

The Grand 3 does not have sympathetic resonance (which is not the same as sustain resonance). Nor does EWQL. This makes them unuseable for serious piano playing but maybe they're OK for film scores, if the piano sound is buried in other stuff.

Do you think this is not serious?

[Cover] Ultimate Harry Potter (Jarrod Radnich) - YouTube

This was posted in the soundsonline forum made for a user who claimed to record this with EW Pianos. If he wouldnt tell that, I would assure this is a real piano video (he is playing everything and the playing fixs almost perfectly with the music)

cheers!

[daveconn]

Originally Posted by method1

I'm hearing a nasty "clunking" sound in a few of the IS demos..is that just part of the "imperfect" character of these samples, or is it possible to turn that off?

That's meant to replicate pedal noise, which I find either works nicely or sounds terrible depending on what I'm scoring. There's a volume control for it, same goes for Emotional Piano.

[method1]

Originally Posted by daveconn

That's meant to replicate pedal noise, which I find either works nicely or sounds terrible depending on what I'm scoring. There's a volume control for it, same goes for Emotional Piano.

Can you completely dial it out? I find it very distracting and it seems to be in all the IS products