Audio Engine Question.

ScottParris · 29th April 2006, 09:58 PM

If I use some VSTi's or DXi's in Soanr 5 and then bounce them and export them out as .wav files, does the Sonar audio engine effect them. I've been hearing samplitude has a better engine than Sonar but the midi isn't as strong.

Do you guys have any suggestions of being able to sequence in Sonar and mix the tracks in Samplitude? Or am I completely up in the night and adding a step I don't need?

theblue1 · 29th April 2006, 10:18 PM

You'll HEAR people say all kinds of things. Some people around the net do a HELL of a lot more talking than they do recording or testing.

You'll hear some folks tout Sonar 5's 64 bit audio engine. (Which, btw, can be switched back and forth between 32 bit processing and 64 bit.) You'll hear other folks say Samp just sounds better, period. (Like most other DAW's right now, it's got a 32 bit processing engine.)

Best is if you try to judge for yourself.

That said, yes, the audio engine will, of necessity, affect the sound of your VIs. Your VIs use the audio engine to, you know, process, mix, etc, your signal and output it to file or interface. (If you're mixing OTB, the audio engine will putatively affect your sound less, since your mixing will be done in your analog mixer.)

I've been discussing audio on BBs since before the WWW (Compuserve, newsgroups, etc) and there's ALWAYS been a lot of BS out there.

But since the huge explosion of interest in 'home/project recording' the amount of untested, ill-conceived, oft-repeated prattle has expanded to fill the experiential void in folks' heads... and there's more than enough void to go around.

Do your homework. Try things yourself. Listen to the results -- not the third-hand scuttlebutt that passes for 'informed opinion' around the net...

ScottParris · 30th April 2006, 10:23 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I currently use Sonar 3 and I'm looking for a new DAW and sound card. I mostly do Electronica/Chillout/Soundscape music so my projects are mostly "plug-in driven." I needed to make sure I covered all my base's before I made my choice.

aussie_techie · 30th April 2006, 11:52 AM

0 + 1 is still 1
appart from how the plug-ins are implimented and some differences in dynamic range due to the implimentation of the engine eveything should be the same.
some say they hear a difference, fine use which ever you like.

pick you system on the best work flow for you.

pingu · 30th April 2006, 11:53 AM

Saw studio

T.RayBullard · 30th April 2006, 01:52 PM

Sequoia is superior to anything I have ever used. spendy, but well worth it.

Samplitude is fantastic as well.

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29th April 2006, 09:58 PM	#1
ScottParris Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 2	Audio Engine Question. If I use some VSTi's or DXi's in Soanr 5 and then bounce them and export them out as .wav files, does the Sonar audio engine effect them. I've been hearing samplitude has a better engine than Sonar but the midi isn't as strong. Do you guys have any suggestions of being able to sequence in Sonar and mix the tracks in Samplitude? Or am I completely up in the night and adding a step I don't need? __________________ "I think my mask of sanity is about to slip."

29th April 2006, 10:18 PM	#2
theblue1 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 5,761	You'll HEAR people say all kinds of things. Some people around the net do a HELL of a lot more talking than they do recording or testing. You'll hear some folks tout Sonar 5's 64 bit audio engine. (Which, btw, can be switched back and forth between 32 bit processing and 64 bit.) You'll hear other folks say Samp just sounds better, period. (Like most other DAW's right now, it's got a 32 bit processing engine.) Best is if you try to judge for yourself. That said, yes, the audio engine will, of necessity, affect the sound of your VIs. Your VIs use the audio engine to, you know, process, mix, etc, your signal and output it to file or interface. (If you're mixing OTB, the audio engine will putatively affect your sound less, since your mixing will be done in your analog mixer.) I've been discussing audio on BBs since before the WWW (Compuserve, newsgroups, etc) and there's ALWAYS been a lot of BS out there. But since the huge explosion of interest in 'home/project recording' the amount of untested, ill-conceived, oft-repeated prattle has expanded to fill the experiential void in folks' heads... and there's more than enough void to go around. Do your homework. Try things yourself. Listen to the results -- not the third-hand scuttlebutt that passes for 'informed opinion' around the net... __________________ biz \| profile \| songblog \| acoustic \| mutant roots pop

30th April 2006, 10:23 AM	#3
ScottParris Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 2	Thanks for the feedback. I currently use Sonar 3 and I'm looking for a new DAW and sound card. I mostly do Electronica/Chillout/Soundscape music so my projects are mostly "plug-in driven." I needed to make sure I covered all my base's before I made my choice. __________________ "I think my mask of sanity is about to slip."

30th April 2006, 01:52 PM	#6
T.RayBullard Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbus County, North Carolina Posts: 2,431	Sequoia is superior to anything I have ever used. spendy, but well worth it. Samplitude is fantastic as well. __________________ I think it is wrong to make everything equidistant from the listener with too many mics. The pasting-on effects end up like bad Photoshop work on graphics & photos - too unbelievable.-Tony Faulkner http://www.last.fm/user/TeddyBullard/

30th April 2006, 11:52 AM	#4
aussie_techie Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 2,040	0 + 1 is still 1 appart from how the plug-ins are implimented and some differences in dynamic range due to the implimentation of the engine eveything should be the same. some say they hear a difference, fine use which ever you like. pick you system on the best work flow for you.

30th April 2006, 11:53 AM	#5
pingu Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 665	Saw studio

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