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Old 25th April 2006   #1
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I have URS A10/N12; am I missing anything.......

...... by NOT having the A and N console EQs?
will they give me anything I can't get out of the graphics (which i love BTW)?
I did download and install the demos a while ago, then promptly got distracted on a project and the time ran out, now I can't run the demos again to see for myself (doh!)
same goes for the s-series; now i can't re-demo that either, and I'd really like to.
I did demo the comps, and I'm not sure about those.....
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I bet that if you email Bobby over at URS, he might be able to arrange another demo period. Worth a shot, at least, especially since you've bought stuff from them.

I think the functionality of graphic eq is kind of limited for some stuff, but I do use them. OTOH, it's kind of hard for me to recommend buying more plugins that are really similar sounding. I think the URS EQ's sound good, but rather than being as different as Neve, API, SSL, etc, I think they all have an overall 'URS sound' with a little bit of flavor differences. I think that if you have a couple of 'em, you've got that base covered.

If that makes any sense.
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The nice thing about getting the A and N series is you also get the N Mix and A Mix EQ. That's how great of a company URS is. They don't rape their customers. The best service I've ever encountered with a company. So in saying that, you should also get The compressors, Fulltec (very awesome eq) and the S series. That shouls cover you as far as eqs and compressors go. URS Rocks!
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I just bought the A and N series and also the Fulltec.
Anybody with both the Fulltec and the BLT, (how) do you use the BLT?
And how do they compare?
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these parametric ones are considerably less cpu hungry if that counts
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You would use the parametric EQ's on a wider variety of material (most likely)... Plus, as someone pointed out, you get the MIX EQ's, as an added bonus. I use the MIX EQ's more than the regular parametric versions & the graphics combined.
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Thanks for these replies......
I guess the mix eqs are the same as the regular parametrics with more bands?
(apart from the ICON mapping thing that isn't relevant to me)
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Not meaning to hijack the thread, but a question; are URS's plugins really so much better than other plugs? (In terms of analog flavoured sound).
I have all UAD eq's, the Sonalksis 517, Hydratone, Colortone, the T-racks eq and Logic's channel eq. Honetsly, coming from an analog background none of these ever truly got me.
Hydratone is pretty cool, and ofcourse any of the above gets the job done in the end. I just bought the new Nomad Factory analog signature eq's since they sound the closest to sweet analog as I've come across. Today I ordered an iLok just to be able to try the URS and Waves plugs, no matter where I go I hear everyone rave about them.
Waves gets a lot of rants too though something about their update/upgrade policy..?
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Thanks for these replies......
I guess the mix eqs are the same as the regular parametrics with more bands?
(apart from the ICON mapping thing that isn't relevant to me)
They have more bands, limitless frequency choices, and high/ low pass filters....
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I like the new 48 Bit versions!
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Originally Posted by OlavB
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but a question; are URS's plugins really so much better than other plugs? (In terms of analog flavoured sound).
I have all UAD eq's, the Sonalksis 517, Hydratone, Colortone, the T-racks eq and Logic's channel eq. Honetsly, coming from an analog background none of these ever truly got me.
Hydratone is pretty cool, and ofcourse any of the above gets the job done in the end. I just bought the new Nomad Factory analog signature eq's since they sound the closest to sweet analog as I've come across. Today I ordered an iLok just to be able to try the URS and Waves plugs, no matter where I go I hear everyone rave about them.
Waves gets a lot of rants too though something about their update/upgrade policy..?
Well, I haven't tried Hydratone or Colortone, but I personally think T-Racks eq blows compared to URS and Sonalksis didn't blow me away either. Sonalksis wasn't bad by any means, it's just I have so many EQ plugins (URS,McDSP,SONY, etc) that I didn't feel it was any improvement over what I already own. Waves plugins are good, but I let my WUP expire for my Gold Bundle and I haven't used their eqs for a while, so I can't really comment. Although I have my eye on the SSL bundle. Mainly for the Stereo Buss Compressor. The EQ on the Waves SSL didn't blow me away either. HOpe that helped.
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Cool thanx.
So you tried/heard the SSL? Suppose it's got it's own character. I like character, I guess that may just be what I'm missing in the eq's I mentioned I have. I have Eqium too by the way, doesn't really do it for me either. Also forgot to mention Wavearts Trackplug 5, this sounds pretty great, but the plug has a very annoying graphics delay which makes it just less nice to work with. (Double click>>wait>>plug opens).
I know this probably shouldn't have influence on my choices when it comes to sound, but it does have influence on my workflow, so...

Hydratone and Colortone use convolution and sound really very very sweet. If it weren't for the huge hit on CPU I'd use Hydratone on everything, but on my system it's simply not possible. I can't think of any system that would be possible to bear with say 30-40 Hydratones, not even in these Intel times.
Do URS plugins introduce any latency?
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I am with Tony....I have all the A and N's and I use the Mix Eq's the most....love em.

And another HUGE thumb's up for Bobby being about the quickest, nicest guy I have run into in the plug in world! GREAT CS!!!!

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Actually, imho you are missing ALL the other URS plugs. They sound absolutely great and the company is without comparison!

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Old 28th April 2006   #15
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Holy monkey on the roof Batman! I downloaded the comps and the EQ's today and weeeeeeeh what a total difference! Esp. the eq's sound so freakin amazing! Need air? URS got it! Check out my post above, see all the eq's I have...Can't believe I didn't try these earlier....stike

Im surely gonna get me these...!
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They have more bands, limitless frequency choices, and high/ low pass filters....

Hi Tony,
(and anyone else wanting to join in on this)
I'm demoing the N and A eq's right now. It indeed sounds to me like the mix eq's sound the same as the series eq's. The only reason for using the series eq's only would be to keep things within certain boundaries, to sort of create a 'sound'.
Would this assumption be correct? I don't see any other reason, since the mix eq's don't seem to put any more stress on the (native) cpu than the original series eq's.
Or IS there a difference in sound and am I just too hardheaded to hear it...?
Oooh whatEVERRRRR :-)
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Hi Tony,
(and anyone else wanting to join in on this)
I'm demoing the N and A eq's right now. It indeed sounds to me like the mix eq's sound the same as the series eq's. The only reason for using the series eq's only would be to keep things within certain boundaries, to sort of create a 'sound'.
Would this assumption be correct? I don't see any other reason, since the mix eq's don't seem to put any more stress on the (native) cpu than the original series eq's.
Or IS there a difference in sound and am I just too hardheaded to hear it...?
Oooh whatEVERRRRR :-)
Yes, your assumption is pretty much spot on... plus the originals look cooler!
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Yes, your assumption is pretty much spot on... plus the originals look cooler!

Way :-)
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Over time, I've found myself using the Mix versions more than the graphics or original parametrics. They might take a little more work, but I do think the extra control is a plus.
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i personally dig the graphic versions over either mix or originals.. easier thereby faster, and esp N graphic is very smooth and sweet.

compared to other URS eq's, SSL Waves, Sonalksis, Hydratone, T-Racks, REQ, Logic eq's, etc.

each have its own uses tho. i find N12 really suited for acoustical inst like ac.gtr, piano, etc.






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