Sknote Stripbus vs VCC vs Satson

[rifftrax2]

Ok, so I just bought stripbus and holy #*(&#%!!

This may honestly be the best fx plugin I have ever purchased. DAMN. Mojo for ages and everything (and I mean literally everything) sounds better through it. It kicks so much ass it's kinda funny. My girlfriend could tell the difference almost as quick as I could on a couple a/b's of a track I was working on...!

I mixed down a song I'd heard plenty of times before using stripbus on every channel and then sat transfixed listening to the finished export over and over again. The difference was subtle but utterly addicting. Unreal. Also, IMO the buss comp is better than The Glue. YEAH I WENT THERE. It's better.

[skiltrip]

I agree with the above.

The VCC buzz sucked my in to the whole console emu plugin craze. But I wasn't having the iLok 2 thing. Was waiting for NLS, then because the price was so fair, I bought Stripbus. Compared it a lot to the NLS demo. At the end of the day, Stripbus does everything I want it to do and does it well. As a perk I get the extra features like eq section and ducking.

All I can say is... Thanks Quinto, for satisfying my urge to get into the console emulation thing at such a steal of a price. And ultimately I preferred it over NLS anyway!

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[kovaks]

It took me some time to get it working well, but once you get it, StripBus makes a whole mix sound better and more lively easily (that ducking function on Strip is great and can be a great tool to make things breathe and let those transient cut naturally through a guitar wall).

Satson is ok and has great HP-LP filters but has less option and mojo than StripBus imo. And I'm not so fond of the subtle low mids it adds to the tracks.

I'm gonna demo NLS out of curiosity though StripBus covers all my need for the moment. One of the best plugin ever in that price range. Along with Roundtone and Verbtone, Sknote has developped some cheap yet great sounding tools !

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[peter.m.junior]

Can you guys comment on which can sound subtler at modest settings, Satson or Stripbus? Someone mentioned Satson here and I'm actually searching for something to add a touch of analogue character to ITB mixes without being obstructive or clearly audible. Also, can anyone compare the Bus to the SSL emu in the Liquid Mix? Thanks!

[Jolly Jimmy]

Stripbus is far from subtle. Each of the 4 consoles have very distinctive EQ curves. Satson on the other hand is pretty discrete.

[Atak]

Originally Posted by peter.m.junior

Can you guys comment on which can sound subtler at modest settings, Satson or Stripbus? Someone mentioned Satson here and I'm actually searching for something to add a touch of analogue character to ITB mixes without being obstructive or clearly audible. Also, can anyone compare the Bus to the SSL emu in the Liquid Mix? Thanks!

I'd have to say Satson it gives a beautiful transparent sound yet if you drive it the sound shapes to something really nice very SSLish. Having both Satson and Stripbus have truly improve my ITB greatly.

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[peter.m.junior]

Thanks guys! Maybe I should get both though I tend to overcomplicate things when I have too many choices and just not finish the job in time. A/B-ing all day and night... I think I'll start with Satson then and will see if I need more options/character.

[djanthonyw]

Originally Posted by peter.m.junior

Thanks guys! Maybe I should get both though I tend to overcomplicate things when I have too many choices and just not finish the job in time. A/B-ing all day and night... I think I'll start with Satson then and will see if I need more options/character.

Good call, the less options the better.

[ciggi]

i prefer the 4k bus comp unit from stripbus over the liquidmix emulation (if the project is small enuff to have enuff cpu for mixing otherwise i use the LM)
and with the stripbus i barely used my analog summing device because i could mix like that inthebox, only used analog summing for the really relevant stuff (releases)
i started with roundtone and got all the sknote plugins except the exciter called presence - quality stuff at its best price!!
quinto your the man

[ciggi]

better pay quito for his work - its better than stolen from somewhere in the net - i was completely sold on sknote after i heard the stripbus v.2! theres alot of good things from quinto to come in the future i'm sure

[peter.m.junior]

Originally Posted by djanthonyw

Good call, the less options the better.

Lol, you're right man! Convinced, I'm getting both.

Ciggi, thanks for the LM comparison comment!

[ciggi]

will test it (buscomps from Bus) a bit more versus the liquidmix emus specially the new opto comp and the 76

[Rundom]

Thank you for this very informative thread.

I'm intrigue by the whole concept (especially the interaction between channels of StripBus) but wonder if and how can I justify using StripBus/Satson as an owner already of PSP Vintage Warmers (& Micro Warmer & Mix Pack) + Waves (Kramer) HLS-Pie-MPX + Renaissance bundle (which after all these years I still find highly useful!).

Would like to hear from some of you folks who have as much experience with the talked about plugins. Considering my plugz (working in Pro Tools 10 and Ableton) StripBus or Satson then?

Also - can someone please explain me the CrossTalk feature?

As a reference, here is one of my latest mixes:
Get Up - For A Season (mixed by Tom E Run) 2012 by RunDoMusic on SoundCloud
(wasn't able to embed it in Gearslutz for some reason...)

[mista min]

Originally Posted by Rundom

Thank you for this very informative thread.

I'm intrigue by the whole concept (especially the interaction between channels of StripBus) but wonder if and how can I justify using StripBus/Satson as an owner already of PSP Vintage Warmers (& Micro Warmer & Mix Pack) + Waves (Kramer) HLS-Pie-MPX + Renaissance bundle (which after all these years I still find highly useful!).

Would like to hear from some of you folks who have as much experience with the talked about plugins. Considering my plugz (working in Pro Tools 10 and Ableton) StripBus or Satson then?

Also - can someone please explain me the CrossTalk feature?

As a reference, here is one of my latest mixes:
Get Up - For A Season (mixed by Tom E Run) 2012 by RunDoMusic on SoundCloud
(wasn't able to embed it in Gearslutz for some reason...)

The interchannel dependency is really great since you can crank up the input gain and push your virtual console really hard while turning down the volume so you don't get digital clipping at the masterfader/keep you gain staging. When you do this even though you are pushing just the kick, the virtual console has an algorithm that effects all the other channels, think of it like a powersupply in a real console. If you pushed a real console your headroom on the channels you weren't hitting hard would decrease because your boards powersupply has only so much juice it can give and so all the channels on your ssl would be effected. This is also true for strip; however, there is a virtual headroom control that allows you to have a "bigger" virtual powersupply. That is really cool.

Personally, I don't use the crosstalk function on strip and I also don't use the noise function. I really like bus on my individual channels since it's 1176 and La-2a is fabulous.

Satson I use more for input gain staging and filters, but the satson bus modern mode is currently my favorite for mixing, it's an SSL 9000 emulation.

The eq on strip can be useful for small things, but I tend to still use my normal plugins for that. Still, it can be very useful, but what make stripbus great is the ability to really hear a difference in the 4 input stages and the is great because it helps you mold the sound you want faster. I sometimes won't use it on some channels because it changes the sound to much and creates to many harmonics, this is mostly for already groovy/pushed vocal takes.

Do I need stripbus? No, but it does make mixing itb more fun :D

[mista min]

When I think about it more and more, I see that I like the Satson Modern console (SSL 9000) on tracks where I use more reverb. I also tend to use more reverb when I use that emulation. Hmm?! Anybody else experience this?

[Googlyman]

Originally Posted by illsoulprod

I use satson on every project along with nebula modeling preamps like neve and tape along side it. Let me tell you what I've never been happier sound wise
I'll be investing in the alex b MBC console (API) to round out my 3Dness on my mixes and its a wrap. I've heard great things about slate vcc and stripbuss but sadly I haven't tried them yet. To be honest I probably won't. Nebula does what I need along with satson which I just can't replace because its gain staging is phenomenal. But I will say this, the way I use nebula and satson is a set it and forget it approach. I run all my tracks through the preamps (first insert) then throught the tape emu and finally satson with both the on/off switch and the fat switch on. I then freeze the tracks and go about mixing as normal giving me great "instant" results because the "sound" I'm going for is right there. I hope all of you are having the same results as I am and enjoying yourselves because its a great time to be an ITB mixing engineer

What are all the nebula emu's you have/use pls ?

[EvgenyStudio]

I just wanna pick up Satson and try it our. I wish it's hasn't demo

[illsoulprod]

Its been so long and so much has happened on my mixing journey that i am now the proud owner of almost every nebula library and the slate digital vcc that i won in a contest :-)
I now use vcc on every channel and the master buss along with the nebula emulation of the ssl 9k on my 3 main busses (drums, instruments and vocals) and as my last plugin i use the nebula stud a810 with the 15 ips setting.

[jam92189]

as a long time owner of saton and strip.
satson is amazing for gain staging and filtering but I go to strip for all my ITB console needs. also the way they talk to each other without x talk gives me a more OTB style summing.