Anyone using a Hackintosh for Pro Tools?

[pasarireng]

Originally Posted by darbyclash34

I think I may have solved some of my temp problems. Both my front 120mm and my read 80mm are setup as exhaust fans. Im going to reverse the 120mm and see if that helps. If that doesn't do it, I'm going to get a noctua cooler and another noctua 80mm fan.

Got my graphics card, popped it in the slot and it recognized it immediately, no kext files needed. Awesome.

Well.. 82 Celcius is damn hot

[DimaK415]

Be carfeul bud, 82 Degrees IS very hot for an i7. For proper air flow, you shuold have all fans at the front of the comp as inlet and at the back as outlet. Further more, if you get a noctua or any other BAH (big ass heatsink), make sure you mount the fan so that it pulls from the front and pushes to the back. if you have a fan on top, make it an outlet. A fan on the door should be an inlet. You dont want all of your fans going in or out. That is a big no no.

But more importantly, try to reseat your current cooler, put some fresh cpu paste on that sucker and report back.

[slushy]

I'll be following this thread with great detail. Am looking at a hack build by the end of the month. A few Qs; Is it really worth moving to lion yet or should I stick with snow leopard? I'll be needing a FW port also to run my digi002r off. Any probs with wifi also? Have heard that's one of the main probs. Is it worth overclocking? I heard this cuts down the lifecycle of the cpu? Not too keen on spending big bucks with apple again(except for retail Mac osx disc) since my Powermac G5s logic board got smoked!(Apple weren't exactly helpful, didn't wanna know about the design flaw). I don't really wanna be updating the software regulary, just get a nice stable system & not tinker with it too much. If it ain't broke...

btw what's the budget you guys are looking at? I got around £1000 to spare...

[gussyg2007]

Is it really worth moving to lion

No

should I stick with snow leopard

Yes 10.6.8 is very stable

Is it worth overclocking

you won't need to

Any probs with wifi also

get a wifi dongle..works a treat

£1000 will buy you a monster !!

Follow this guide to the letter 1000's of people have had 100% success with this guy's method
tonymacx86 Blog: iBoot + MultiBeast: Install Mac OS X on any Intel-based PC

go for i7 cpu
gigabyte MB
nvidea GFX

[slushy]

Cheers dude, this has helped a lot! I'm looking at this guys build;How to Build a Hackintosh - NoFilmSchool As I'm looking to also do some video editing(Will be concentrating a little more on corporate work later in the year). The good tip on this is buying with amazon due to their returns policy. ie if it ain't compatible you can return the component within 30days I think. Will defo be looking at an ssd for system drive. Thinking about dual boot os but not sure if I'll use a separate drive for each or just stick with the one? I'd also like to factor in a couple of monitors. My old(but v.good) apple cinema display has the adc connection. Another reason I'm not too keen on buying into the apple brand! I may be able to rewire this somehow to take a dvi connection but I doubt it's really worth the hassle. Thanx again. Any further info on setups etc greatly appreciated...

[haowai]

Originally Posted by slushy

I'll be following this thread with great detail. Am looking at a hack build by the end of the month. A few Qs; Is it really worth moving to lion yet or should I stick with snow leopard? I'll be needing a FW port also to run my digi002r off. Any probs with wifi also? Have heard that's one of the main probs. Is it worth overclocking? I heard this cuts down the lifecycle of the cpu? Not too keen on spending big bucks with apple again(except for retail Mac osx disc) since my Powermac G5s logic board got smoked!(Apple weren't exactly helpful, didn't wanna know about the design flaw). I don't really wanna be updating the software regulary, just get a nice stable system & not tinker with it too much. If it ain't broke...

btw what's the budget you guys are looking at? I got around £1000 to spare...

wifi- i use AirPort Wi-Fi Wireless Card ?PCI-e? on my hacktintosh which has no issue at all (i am running 10.7.2 btw)

overclock- why not if you get a 2600k,they are made to be overclocked,many plugins i use are cpu intensive,so overclocking helps. make sure you know what you are doing though

[inthere]

Just FYI OSX Lion has native support for many Windows AMD graphics cards now, only problem of course is you need to run PT 10 on Lion.

Some guys have also gotten Nvidia cards to run in Lion (560-580's) but I don't know if you have to go through extra steps to do it.

[gussyg2007]

I'm looking at this guys build;How to Build a Hackintosh - NoFilmSchool As I'm looking to also do some video editing

Cool his link sends you over to Tonymac as is ...but there guide is the lion build ...the link i sent you was the SL 10.6.8 build
Dig around on the tonymac site ... you will find all the info you need to get an uber GFX going

Some guys have also gotten Nvidia cards to run in Lion

get a gigabyte MB and the right DSDT and your good !

[pasarireng]

Yea! TonyMac! He makes it easy. Easier than what people might think about Hackintosh. Just read & dig his site & follow thoroughly the steps he provides.
I learn that almost all of the people who find troubles in that site are they who don't follow the guides thoroughly.

[DimaK415]

Props to TonyMac!

DO NOT GO LION. I regret it...
Wasted a good 5 days of my life getting PT to run, and I had to delete digidal.com kext to get Lion to work.

Digidal.kext is used on HD rigs only. I battled this build for a long time, but got a crossfired 6870 setup in there on lion 10.7.2. with PT 10 and Logic working purrrrfectly.

[pasarireng]

Seems the safest is 10.6.8 now.
Lion still has to wait.

[darbyclash34]

So I installed a cooler master n520 and now my temps are down to 65 at a true 100 CPU load (again, terminal scripts I use when working on macs). So I think I'm all good. I'm adding one more fan and calling it a day.

Didn't have any issues getting pro tools to run at all. I'm on lion (toymac is no longer making new versions of his tools for snow leopard) ad even my nvidia 430 was instantly recognized and worked. Awesome.

[darbyclash34]

Realized one of the two CPU fans wasn't running. Now it's even cooler.

Overclocked to 4ghz and with both fans correct I'm at 61.

[pasarireng]

Originally Posted by darbyclash34

So I installed a cooler master n520 and now my temps are down to 65 at a true 100 CPU load (again, terminal scripts I use when working on macs). So I think I'm all good. I'm adding one more fan and calling it a day.

Didn't have any issues getting pro tools to run at all. I'm on lion (toymac is no longer making new versions of his tools for snow leopard) ad even my nvidia 430 was instantly recognized and worked. Awesome.

What is "terminal work for utilizing CPU to run 100%" ? I'd like to know the script please..

What is your PC temperature without it?

Yes me too ran Lion before switch back to Snow Leopard.
It was ok but some plugins (32 bit plugins in Logic) didn't work and needs bridge. So I'll wait before coming back to Lion

[darbyclash34]

Go into terminal. Type yes > /dev/null


Make a new tab, type in the same. Continue until you make as many tabs as you have cores/threads.

My idle temp is right around 33 but I need to reroute my airflow. Doing that tomorrow then rack mounting and calling it a day.

[pasarireng]

Originally Posted by darbyclash34

Go into terminal. Type yes > /dev/null


Make a new tab, type in the same. Continue until you make as many tabs as you have cores/threads.

How to turn it off (to back to 'normal') ?

[darbyclash34]

Just quit terminal. Itll prompt you that this will close running processes, press ok. Really useful tool.

[GarretBarnett]

I am building my first Hack for the strict use of Pro Tools or DAWs alike. Right now, I am running Pro Tools 10, but I intend on upgrading to HD Native. Here is a list of the parts I plan on putting together, please send positive or negative feedback if you have any experience with any of these components.

- Mac OS X Lion 10.7
- Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5GHz Quad Core - Newegg.com - Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623i72700K
- GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P Intel Z68 - Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
- CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) - Newegg.com - CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10
- GIGABYTE Radeon HD6850 - Newegg.com - GIGABYTE Ultra Durable VGA Series GV-R685OC-1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
- CORSAIR 120GB SATAIII SSD - Newegg.com - Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
- Western Digital 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s - Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
- LIAN LI PC-V2120B Full Tower - Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-V2120B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
- CORSAIR H100 Liquid Cooling - Newegg.com - CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
- SIIG FireWire 800 3-Port PCI Model - Newegg.com - SIIG FireWire 800 3-Port PCI Model NN-830012-S2

[scoob]

rack mount quad core with nvidia graphics pt hd9 no issues runs great!!!

[Watagushu]

Anyone with protools HD PCIe?
I found a AZUS motherboard with 4PCIe!!
I would be really happy if that could work to support my current setup on a Mac Pro:
Protools HD2 PCIe, Blackmagic Extreme SD.
If that motherboard works I could make me an HD3 and Video super RIG.
What would you think guys?

Regards

[bishopdante]

Originally Posted by dappy

I'm surprised so many musicians are willing to steal from Apple considering how bad piracy has effected our industry.

No. That's not in the slightest true. It's not a case of piracy.

The problem is that hundreds of billions of dollars are spent by consumers on ISP, and none of that revenue is shared. The Internet is missing a feature called "being paid to produce content". It's like being ripped off by a record company only far more severe.

That issue doesn't just affect the music industry.

[Electrode]

Originally Posted by dappy

Since the license only allows you to run OS X on an Apple-branded computer, installing it on a PC is stealing.

I registered because I'm fed of people ignoring license agreements and then complaining when their IP is being stolen. In my experiences of selling Mac software most of the pirated copy's of my app are unsurprisingly installed on hackintoshes.

It's surprising how many think they're doing nothing wrong by breaking the license agreement.

Yeah? Well I am fed up with uneducated people.

Apple's EULA is their best attempt at getting people to do what they want. It is no different to any contract in the sense that while writing it and signing it with the best intentions works on most occasions (both parties do what is specified in the contract)... the degree in which ANY contract is actually "legally binding" is only made apparent when it is tested in the court of law.

The EULA is a civil matter. Not criminal. You won't EVER get charged with stealing or piracy for using your purchased copy of OSX on a non-apple computer.

To this day I have only heard of one case that Apple has pursued in terms of its EULA for software use. Apple took a small business to court that made "custoMac" computers. PC's running OSX basically. Nothing became of the EULA agreement argument... instead apple sued over the use of the term "mac" and the company folded.

Most EULA's are disregarded in a lot of countries. Germany being one. I don't think they are recognised in the USA or Australia either.

There is a reason why there are so many hackintosh related sites on the internet. Apple hasn't even flinched... why do you think that is? They know they don't have a chance for any legal victory. The idea that a company can dictate how, where and when a person uses the product they purchase is ridiculous...

If anything, you should be condemning Apple. They are gouging the makers of creative content every chance they get.

Apple's mind-bogglingly greedy and evil license agreement | ZDNet

Look at this tasty little EULA clause in Apple's iBook Author software:

IMPORTANT NOTE:
If you charge a fee for any book or other work you generate using this software (a “Work”), you may only sell or distribute such Work through Apple (e.g., through the iBookstore) and such distribution will be subject to a separate agreement with Apple.

So... if I write a book using iBook Author I can only sell it through iBook?
...but selling my book through iBook is at the discretion of Apple?

That is like AVID owning the music you make in protools...

There is only one entity that I consider "criminal" in this thread...

[norbury brook]

Agree 100% ,

I bought all my copies of OSX and therefore don't feel anyway i've stolen from Apple.

Also agree Apple are incredibly monopolistic and greedy with the way they do business. They take 30% off the top of all App store purchases and as there's no other way to distribute you're forced to accept it. Same with itunes they control 99% of all music downloads, they don't however give anything back at least the bad old record companies of old would support you whilst you made your music.

THere's no comparison between installing a payed for version of OSX on my own hardware and cracked/pirated software usage.


MC

[projektk]

Originally Posted by Electrode

Yeah? Well I am fed up with uneducated people.

Apple's EULA is their best attempt at getting people to do what they want. It is no different to any contract in the sense that while writing it and signing it with the best intentions works on most occasions (both parties do what is specified in the contract)... the degree in which ANY contract is actually "legally binding" is only made apparent when it is tested in the court of law.

The EULA is a civil matter. Not criminal. You won't EVER get charged with stealing or piracy for using your purchased copy of OSX on a non-apple computer.

To this day I have only heard of one case that Apple has pursued in terms of its EULA for software use. Apple took a small business to court that made "custoMac" computers. PC's running OSX basically. Nothing became of the EULA agreement argument... instead apple sued over the use of the term "mac" and the company folded.

Most EULA's are disregarded in a lot of countries. Germany being one. I don't think they are recognised in the USA or Australia either.

There is a reason why there are so many hackintosh related sites on the internet. Apple hasn't even flinched... why do you think that is? They know they don't have a chance for any legal victory. The idea that a company can dictate how, where and when a person uses the product they purchase is ridiculous...

If anything, you should be condemning Apple. They are gouging the makers of creative content every chance they get.

Apple's mind-bogglingly greedy and evil license agreement | ZDNet

Look at this tasty little EULA clause in Apple's iBook Author software:

IMPORTANT NOTE:
If you charge a fee for any book or other work you generate using this software (a “Work”), you may only sell or distribute such Work through Apple (e.g., through the iBookstore) and such distribution will be subject to a separate agreement with Apple.

So... if I write a book using iBook Author I can only sell it through iBook?
...but selling my book through iBook is at the discretion of Apple?

That is like AVID owning the music you make in protools...

There is only one entity that I consider "criminal" in this thread...

The company you are referring to possibly is Psystar. They never used the words Mac, they sold custom PCs with the OS Options being Windows, Linux and Mac OS X Leopard. They also bundled a software for the OS X buyers in case they broke their set up they could easily fix it, similar to multibeast.

Installing OS X onto a PC for fun is actually encouraged by Apple for testing purposes. Every OS X install file has its own unique serial ID, apple has simply blacklisted the torrents to keep them off the App Store on OS X.

Installing OS X on a PC for profit is illegal because the rules are broken and you don't legally own a real license.

In all Apple will not take action unless you start selling Hackintosh's. They love the free beta testing. It encourages 3rd party hardware to be made for Mac and if Mac ever opens up to custom PC's, half if not all the work is done.

I agree with you, that iBook software is rediculous. That would be like saying if you make music on your Mac you can only sell it on iTunes. Let me know if you find anything like that about Logic or Garage Band, would be interesting.


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