Soundtoys 64-bit - are we close?

[GCL]

Anyone from Soundtoys care to comment on how close you are to releasing 64-bit versions? We just had Lexicon and Sonnox drop theirs, and other than Waves, this is one of the big ones a lot of us need. So Soundtoys, are we close?

[bluefonia]

I would like to know too

[Stubrew]

Originally Posted by bluefonia

I would like to know too

Me three!

[GearOnTheGo]

The current ones are working fine for me in 64 bit Sonar on Win7.

[mfx]

Originally Posted by GearOnTheGo

The current ones are working fine for me in 64 bit Sonar on Win7.

Can only bridge on Win7x64 in Cubase 6.0.5 with jBridge (native not working for me)...

+4 for x64 Soundtoys please :•)

...and the juice

[Solar]

On the way Folks! Mark my word & Be patient, patient Oooooooooooooooooook!

Cheers

[cane creek]

It's sad these popular companies should of went 64bit long ago, Logics 32bit bridge was only put there as a temporary measure whilst these companies got their finger out.
Seems to me a lot of these company's have put 64bit to one side whilst they suck up to Avid prioritising their new format instead.
If you follow Soundtoys on Facebook all they seem to talk about is parties, if they spent less time partying we might see 64bit lol

[gussyg2007]

WTF is the deal with 64 bit ... i mean man !! It's been like........ years !!!!!!
Almost every SW company has been dragging there heels with this shit !! WTF !!!

[Superfly76]

I agree. We had 64 bit operating systems for a long time now. Is it going to be another 10 years before we finally leave 32 bit behind?

[Sensorychaos]

without any offense...It shows what it shows....

[wagz]

I an actually waiting to buy these until I can use them 64bit. I purchased devil loc deluxe, but it sometimes crashes my program when i bridge it. It's a real game inserting it. i'm like..."Do i really wanna start this project over."????....hmmm

[cane creek]

What is annoying is you wait years for 64bit plugins yet as soon as Protools Announce the AAX format some of these firms release AAX versions within days/weeks.
They seem to bend over backwards for Avid yet ignor us Logic/Cubase users.

[claesbjo]

Originally Posted by cane creek

What is annoying is you wait years for 64bit plugins yet as soon as Protools Announce the AAX format some of these firms release AAX versions within days/weeks.
They seem to bend over backwards for Avid yet ignor us Logic/Cubase users.

Would truly love 64 bit aswell, however, as far as I understand recoding from 32 to 64 bit is really labor intensive with a lot of programming, much more than porting AU to AAX for example. But I agree, 64 bit is a must very soon!

[FoxMulderFBI]

Originally Posted by cane creek

What is annoying is you wait years for 64bit plugins yet as soon as Protools Announce the AAX format some of these firms release AAX versions within days/weeks.

Nicely said...

[dio]

Originally Posted by FoxMulderFBI

Nicely said...

Thats why some great developers and clever businessmen like Softube fill the gap fast and get our 64 bit Native VST hot money the others snob.

[cane creek]

Originally Posted by claesbjo

as far as I understand recoding from 32 to 64 bit is really labor intensive with a lot of programming, much more than porting AU to AAX for example. !

Yes it's probably my problem because in my part of the world we wait in a queue for things and we get angry when others jump the queue

Ever had a full trolley at the checkout but you let the guy behind you get served first because he only has a loaf of bread then somebody else turns up with only a pint of milk and before you know it blah blah blah !!!..... 64 bit first then AAX......

[Mitch@SoundToys]

Originally Posted by cane creek

Yes it's probably my problem because in my part of the world we wait in a queue for things and we get angry when others jump the queue

Ever has a full trolley at the checkout but you let the guy behind you get served first because he only has a loaf of bread then somebody else turns up with only a pint of milk and before you know it blah blah blah, 64 bit first then AAX......

OK, so it seems we need to clear some things up.

We are working on 64bit. We didn't put AAX in front of it and no one is playing favorites. It's honestly strange that anyone would think there was some advantage to us not getting this stuff done. Like we're holding it back for some sort of gain. Sheesh! We'd love to be done, and we're working hard to get it done. If it was easy, we'd be done. Again, no real benefit to us just sitting on it.

Do we have an ETA? Nope. Sorry. Love to tell you we do, but we do not. It's a massive undertaking, it's not fun coding like making plug-ins, and no one wants to pay for it even though we have to put a lot of time and money into doing it, so it's incredibly oppressive. Still, we know, it's part of being in this biz, so we are indeed doing our best to get it done.

We appreciate your patience even if it's wearing thin now. We get it. If we we're selling packages at $4000 every ten minutes then we'd have a whole team of young no sleep needing guys coding and perhaps we'd be done. The reality is, we try to keep our prices low and we're not quite hitting the "Every ten minute" mark for sales, plus we are a small team that has to work together to keep the whole business running.

So to sum up: We are working on 64bit and it is a priority. We do not have an ETA on release. When we do, we will shout about it as it will be a very happy day for us. Yes, we will be doing AAX too. No, it's not slowing 64bit development. Yes, we will do more parties. No, that is not slowing 64bit either.

Hope this helps. We really do appreciate the support, and understand and even share the frustration, so we will work to get done ASAP.

Thanks,
Mitch Thomas
SoundToys Sales & Marketing
(No coders were involved in the typing or creation of this email. They're busy)

[MatzeMillion]

Originally Posted by Mitch@SoundToys

OK, so it seems we need to clear some things up.

We are working on 64bit. We didn't put AAX in front of it and no one is playing favorites. It's honestly strange that anyone would think there was some advantage to us not getting this stuff done. Like we're holding it back for some sort of gain. Sheesh! We'd love to be done, and we're working hard to get it done. If it was easy, we'd be done. Again, no real benefit to us just sitting on it.

Do we have an ETA? Nope. Sorry. Love to tell you we do, but we do not. It's a massive undertaking, it's not fun coding like making plug-ins, and no one wants to pay for it even though we have to put a lot of time and money into doing it, so it's incredibly oppressive. Still, we know, it's part of being in this biz, so we are indeed doing our best to get it done.

We appreciate your patience even if it's wearing thin now. We get it. If we we're selling packages at $4000 every ten minutes then we'd have a whole team of young no sleep needing guys coding and perhaps we'd be done. The reality is, we try to keep our prices low and we're not quite hitting the "Every ten minute" mark for sales, plus we are a small team that has to work together to keep the whole business running.

So to sum up: We are working on 64bit and it is a priority. We do not have an ETA on release. When we do, we will shout about it as it will be a very happy day for us. Yes, we will be doing AAX too. No, it's not slowing 64bit development. Yes, we will do more parties. No, that is not slowing 64bit either.

Hope this helps. We really do appreciate the support, and understand and even share the frustration, so we will work to get done ASAP.

Thanks,
Mitch Thomas
SoundToys Sales & Marketing
(No coders were involved in the typing or creation of this email. They're busy)

Thank you for pointing that out!

[cane creek]

Yes thanks for chiming in Mitch making things clear, and as for the partying I'm only jealous

[Mitch@SoundToys]

Originally Posted by cane creek

Yes thanks for chiming in Mitch making things clear, and as for the partying I'm only jealous

Don't be jealous. Most of those "Parties" (we did two last year) are trade show events and we work the whole time. The last one was AES, and the event ran all day while we worked our booth all day. We got to check out the last hour or so of our own party. Ahhh, the glamorous life of the software industry. Still, we love doing them as it gets us out with real folks and we get great feedback. Much like the great feedback we get here.

...and I'm serious. No one wants to be done with all this platform stuff more than we do. It's really no fun, and we much prefer fun.

Mitch

[Home Studio 87]

nice answer ! some have to learn !
when u ready i'm gonna be ready too buy the native pack

[GCL]

As the thread starter, thanks for your reply Mitch. It's great that Soundtoys is among those companies who do respond to its customers inquiries re pressing issues in public forums (not that I or anyone would expect it all the time). Nonetheless, it's great to be kept up-to-date. Bravo!

[quincyg]

Thanks for the update Mitch, it really makes a difference to hear your explanation. I had felt for the last 6-12 months like soundtoys and UA were really slacking on 64 bit. Now I realize that it is a serious undertaking and understand that it is tricky to do while maintaining reasonable pricing. I own every plugin you guys sell and really appreciate how great you guys are at what you do!

[lxm]

Thanks for the update but I personally dont feel that your prices are "low" by any means......

[DITN]

Originally Posted by lxm

Thanks for the update but I personally dont feel that your prices are "low" by any means......

They're incredibly good plugins at a very reasonable price.

[lxm]

Originally Posted by DITN

They're incredibly good plugins at a very reasonable price.

right back at ya buddy.

i have my opinion you have yours. i think $500 is far from cheap. never said they werent good... did i?

[soulata]

Originally Posted by lxm

Thanks for the update but I personally dont feel that your prices are "low" by any means......

Same here :(

AudioDamage seems to keep things cheap and well, they're 64bit

No RTAS/AAX though ...


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[Phaidon]

Originally Posted by lxm

Thanks for the update but I personally dont feel that your prices are "low" by any means......

This!

[trock]

I dont't Have Soundtoys plugs and i am still on a 32 bit cubase platform

but i have been looking at them and been impressed with them

and because of your post mitch, which i found refreshing and honest

i am now buying them

thanks

[dankin]

Originally Posted by trock

I dont't Have Soundtoys plugs and i am still on a 32 bit cubase platform

but i have been looking at them and been impressed with them

and because of your post mitch, which i found refreshing and honest

i am now buying them

thanks

You won't regret it!