Lynx AES16 card and ??

[not_so_new]

Hi all.

I already have a AES16 card and it is working great with Samplitude. I have an Apogee AD-16x to get into my DAW and a Benchmark DAC-1 to monitor my DAW outs.

I just purchased a new Apogee DA-16X and I need to get it working with my system.

I would like to use the exesting AES16 card for the input and output to the Apogee units. If it matters I only use sample rates of 96khz and down. What card can I get that would work with my AES16 and that can feed two channels of my DAC-1?

Thanks.

[not_so_new]

Bump.... anyone?

[True North]

I am considering the same thing and the same questions.

I have called Lynx on a couple of technical questions and have found their tech service to be top notch. I don't even own any of their gear yet and they were very friendly to deal with over the phone.

I know this doesen't answer your question but if you do give them a call about this I would love to hear the response. If I don't see something posted here I will eventually call them about this as well.

Any reason why you didn't consider using the Aurora convertors?

[lukejs]

HI. I think that up to four AES16´s can be daisy chained via internal header connections. So just go buy another AES16 and you´ll be in like Flynn... But maybe there is a way you can buy an L stream ADAT or AES card , which would be cheaper, and allow more than 16 channels of output.... hey... when you find out, please post your findings.... I´m interested too ! P.S. Is the DAC-1 much better than the Apogee mini DAC ?

[broken head]

You could use either an L22 or a 2nd AES16 card for this purpose.
Both are comparable in price.

The L22 would offer an additional pair of hi-quality analog
ins/outs and a single AES I/O with Sample Rate Conversion

The AES16 would offer 16 channels of AES I/O, with our SynchroLock clocking technology. Both would integrate seamlessly with your existng AES16. You would need to either clock them together with our ICC (Internal Clock) cable, or slave both cards to an external source.

Regards,

[jcschild]

HI Paul,

that pic your using.. well its just not right

self portrait on friday after having to tech support some bone head in KY.
after an already long week?

Scott
ADK

[broken head]

Originally Posted by jcschild

HI Paul,

that pic your using.. well its just not right

self portrait on friday after having to tech support some bone head in KY.
after an already long week?

Scott
ADK

no Way - that's a shot of me Monday morning after NAMM.
Note the disabled state of the speaking apparatus...

[not_so_new]

Originally Posted by broken head

no Way - that's a shot of me Monday morning after NAMM.
Note the disabled state of the speaking apparatus...

LOL


Actually that pic is confusing because someone else (a mod actually) uses that same pick.

Anyway thanks for the email Paul and the post here. I guess my problem is that I just don't need or want 16 more channels of I/O. I only need exactly 2 outputs so most of these would go to waste in my set up. $650 is a pretty steep hill to climb for just two outputs.

No offense to Paul or Lynx, great guy and a great company, but the RME stuff inlcudes break out cards that will let you expand on the main card with a daughter board so you don't have to buy a full card.

Honestly the Lynx solution of "go buy another full card" kind of pisses me off. If it was not such a good unit with great service I would have kicked the AES16 to the curb already. I kind of wish I would have went with the RME cards now for just this reason....

Sorry, end of rant.

[AdamJay]

damn, if you were on Mac, i'd say just use the Mac's optical out for the DAC-1, and set it up as an aggregate device in OSX. 16in/18out.

i'm not familiar with samplitude, and if/how it allows multiple interfaces.
but a simple PCI digital output card would do the job,.

LynxOne, etc. ...

[broken head]

Originally Posted by not_so_new

LOL

No offense to Paul or Lynx, great guy and a great company, but the RME stuff inlcudes break out cards that will let you expand on the main card with a daughter board so you don't have to buy a full card.

Michael,

I Understand your frustration about the cost to benefit from this scenario. Just to clear some things up though and expand on this idea:
Unless I'm missing something the RME expansion cards are similar to ours in that they add a different I/O format to the host card, not increasing the channel count of the host, but offering a different format. Our expansion cards (the LS-ADAT and LS-AES) do the same thing.

The reason I didn't suggest this was presuming that you wanted the additional AES I/O to be independent of your existing 16 channels. If that's not neccesary you could add the LS-AES, which provides 8 additional channels of AES/EBU. The outputs will mirror existing outputs, and the inputs would be selectable on a per-channel basis between the onboard I/O and LS-AES I/O.

Otherwise adding some other make of card just for a digital output wouldn't work with ASIO. ASIO apps can only negotiate with one ASIO driver at a time.

Hope this helps....

[lukejs]

does this mean that if he buys the LS - AES , he would have more than 16 digital AES outs ?

[broken head]

Originally Posted by lukejs

does this mean that if he buys the LS - AES , he would have more than 16 digital AES outs ?

No - there would be 16 total ins and outs. 8-channels of output would be sent simultaneously to the LS-AES and AES16 outputs. Ins would be switchable between LS-AES and onboard inputs - which is kind of a non-issue here.

So, what couldn't be done is have 16 channels of audio playing out the AES16/DA16X, and a Unique play stream out the DAC-1.

Make sense?

[not_so_new]

Originally Posted by broken head

No - there would be 16 total ins and outs. 8-channels of output would be sent simultaneously to the LS-AES and AES16 outputs. Ins would be switchable between LS-AES and onboard inputs - which is kind of a non-issue here.

So, what couldn't be done is have 16 channels of audio playing out the AES16/DA16X, and a Unique play stream out the DAC-1.

Make sense?

Yep.... still sucks.....



Thanks Paul

[tomylee]

Is the adat mirroring somehow off-switchable?
It´s really annoying in my setup.

[Jake Holland]

Hey!

Could you please tell me exactly the details of your system?

I have been trying to get Samplitude to work with my Lynx AES-16 and Aurora 16 for over a year and constant lost ASIO buffer errors plauge my system.

I also installed my entire system on another completely different machine and behaviour was identical.

I'm sorry but I think you are lying!

There is no way that you have Samplitude working with the AES-16 card without ASIO buffer errors.

Prove it!

[broken head]

Originally Posted by tomylee

Is the adat mirroring somehow off-switchable?
It´s really annoying in my setup.

Sorry, no.

[andsonic]

Jake,
There are many folks who have had issues with the AES16 and Samplitude v9 and above. There are also several folks who have posted on the Samplitude forum who have the same card working successfully. Some would point the finger at the video card being the problem. Turning off video acceleration has worked for some.

Computers are complex beasts. No need to call someone's truthfulness in to question.

[siriusbliss]

Originally Posted by Jake Holland

Hey!

Could you please tell me exactly the details of your system?

I have been trying to get Samplitude to work with my Lynx AES-16 and Aurora 16 for over a year and constant lost ASIO buffer errors plague my system.

I also installed my entire system on another completely different machine and behaviour was identical.

I'm sorry but I think you are lying!

There is no way that you have Samplitude working with the AES-16 card without ASIO buffer errors.

Prove it!

You can also try turning off dual-CPU switch in the system.
Optimize your system. Turn off background processes. Refresh your plugins. Try switching from ASIO to MME and back. Do things that can refresh your system and Samplitude configuration.

AES-16s are working just fine for many people.

Greg