Logic ESX / Ultrabeat Multichannel Set Up

loser · 22nd March 2006

Hi there,

this is my first post on this forum as I'm real stuck. I've been watching threads for a while and most people are pretty on the ball with answering tech queries.

My chosen DAW, as the thread title suggests is Mac & Logic (7). With the addition of the Ultrabeat as a standard plug in, I am interested to learn how to set this (and the ESX) up so that different drum parts can be mixed onto seperate mixer channels. I'm told that I have to do this in the environment but I'm really not sure on how it works, and when it is hooked up correctly in the environment - what to do next.

I can see that I am able to select outputs for drum parts on the Ultrabeat interface, but I am unsure of how to actually get the signal to the various mixer channels and which mixer channels they should be. I would really rather do this than have to hook up seperate ultrabeats for different fx or multiple fx bypassed until needed on the one ultrabeat or esx.

If anyone can be of any help, this would be greatly appreciated.

Loser....

tengu · 22nd March 2006

In an audio object (read the manual for definition) change it to an Auxilary channel. Next change the input of the Aux channel to the whatever output you have chosen from Ultrabeat. You don't need to use the environment window, do it in the arrange window.

loser · 22nd March 2006

thanks man. i'll try that when i'm home - if i need some more help i'll shout

mitchell · 25th March 2006

I've done it (actually in Battery)... it's do-able, but kind of a pain, especially if you use a big preset custom mixer in the environment like I do (with a lot of empty open slots for virtual synths).

I haven't done it so much with Ultrabeat, but if you're using EXS24, I recommend just opening up multiple instances. EXS24 has VERY LOW overhead... even when I was still using my G4/867 with OS9, I routinely used twenty instances of EXS24 with no problems at all. I would just open the same sampler instrument in a bunch of them and then you can use each instrument channel with it's own compression/EQ (for the record, it appears that Logic is smart enough that it doesn't load the samples for multiple instances of the same instrument over and over when you have a bunch of the same one open).

Ultrabeat could prove a little dicier as it uses more horsepower than EXS24, but since I generally only use it for a couple of things, I usually only open a couple or 'em. It makes the most badass handclap smashes ever! (I make 'em by messing with the default 808 clap). But still, I'm using a G5/dual 2 gig and I have yet to even come close to running it out of juice, and that's with lots of virtual synths, a fair amount of Waves Ren stuff, and two or three Space Designers in a mix.

22nd March 2006	#1
loser Gear interested Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2 Thread Starter	Logic ESX / Ultrabeat Multichannel Set Up Hi there, this is my first post on this forum as I'm real stuck. I've been watching threads for a while and most people are pretty on the ball with answering tech queries. My chosen DAW, as the thread title suggests is Mac & Logic (7). With the addition of the Ultrabeat as a standard plug in, I am interested to learn how to set this (and the ESX) up so that different drum parts can be mixed onto seperate mixer channels. I'm told that I have to do this in the environment but I'm really not sure on how it works, and when it is hooked up correctly in the environment - what to do next. I can see that I am able to select outputs for drum parts on the Ultrabeat interface, but I am unsure of how to actually get the signal to the various mixer channels and which mixer channels they should be. I would really rather do this than have to hook up seperate ultrabeats for different fx or multiple fx bypassed until needed on the one ultrabeat or esx. If anyone can be of any help, this would be greatly appreciated. Loser....

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22nd March 2006	#2
tengu Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Posts: 672	In an audio object (read the manual for definition) change it to an Auxilary channel. Next change the input of the Aux channel to the whatever output you have chosen from Ultrabeat. You don't need to use the environment window, do it in the arrange window.

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mitchell Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 156	I've done it (actually in Battery)... it's do-able, but kind of a pain, especially if you use a big preset custom mixer in the environment like I do (with a lot of empty open slots for virtual synths). I haven't done it so much with Ultrabeat, but if you're using EXS24, I recommend just opening up multiple instances. EXS24 has VERY LOW overhead... even when I was still using my G4/867 with OS9, I routinely used twenty instances of EXS24 with no problems at all. I would just open the same sampler instrument in a bunch of them and then you can use each instrument channel with it's own compression/EQ (for the record, it appears that Logic is smart enough that it doesn't load the samples for multiple instances of the same instrument over and over when you have a bunch of the same one open). Ultrabeat could prove a little dicier as it uses more horsepower than EXS24, but since I generally only use it for a couple of things, I usually only open a couple or 'em. It makes the most badass handclap smashes ever! (I make 'em by messing with the default 808 clap). But still, I'm using a G5/dual 2 gig and I have yet to even come close to running it out of juice, and that's with lots of virtual synths, a fair amount of Waves Ren stuff, and two or three Space Designers in a mix.