Master Buss Limiter

Playback · 9th March 2006

This is for all Slutz.
What is your favorite Master Buss limiter plugin or outboard.
To use for sending your mixes to the mastering engineer?

lordmiguel · 9th March 2006

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Originally Posted by Playback

This is for all Slutz.
What is your favorite Master Buss limiter plugin or outboard.
To use for sending your mixes to the masting engineer?

why are you limiting before you send to master? this is a big no-no.

rodhmos · 9th March 2006

Sometimes the band or the artist do not have the budget to send their work to a mastering studio. So one of the tools I prefer to use in such a situation is the Voxengo Elephant.

lordmiguel · 9th March 2006

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Originally Posted by Playback

To use for sending your mixes to the masting engineer?

hmmm, i don't think i read this incorrectly.

Playback · 10th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodhmos

Sometimes the band or the artist do not have the budget to send their work to a mastering studio. So one of the tools I prefer to use in such a situation is the Voxengo Elephant.

Hey Rodhmos thanx.

Improv · 10th March 2006

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Originally Posted by Playback

This is for all Slutz.
What is your favorite Master Buss limiter plugin or outboard.
To use for sending your mixes to the mastering engineer?

Don't limit if the tracks will be processed further (i.e. mastering)

If you're doing the mastering, try the free Endorphin. Lots of cool mastering tricks in that plugin, and it sounds really good!

Playback · 10th March 2006

I meant Compressor/limiter master buss comp like an L2.

lordmiguel · 10th March 2006

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Originally Posted by Playback

I meant Compressor/limiter master buss comp like an L2.

Again, L2 is a limiter, the ME will be doing that. You will be working against yourself and him by making it harder to master, with potentially inferior results.

For light buss comp to mix into, I use the STC-8.

Improv · 10th March 2006

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Originally Posted by Playback

I meant Compressor/limiter master buss comp like an L2.

Yes, I know. Did you go to the link I just gave you? It's what you're looking for, and it's free.

Playback · 10th March 2006

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Originally Posted by Improv

Yes, I know. Did you go to the link I just gave you? It's what you're looking for, and it's free.

Yeah I just checked that out it is cool.
I would love to get the STC-8 from Cranesong instead I think I will buy one tomarrow.
Thanks!!

ShamansDream · 10th March 2006

Limiting is a mastering function, not something you want on the master bus in a mix. A mix should remain full of dynamics with headroom available for mastering.

You may want to limit or compress certain tracks for effect. I find L1 a great source limiter before effects. This introduces fewer artifacts. Compression too is used on individual tracks for effect mostly to play with the feel of an instrument. If all you are trying to do is 'limit' those few transients to get more headroom, you might compress the individual tracks GENTLY

If you're not trying to cram all your dynamics into the top 1db of your work in a mastering session, many limiters will give you great results. I have Maxim from Digidesign but that is a bear to get right. I also use Izotope Ozone 3 which has some great mastering capabilities. Ozone 3 is a very powerful plugin for the money including a very good limiter (still not as powerful L2 but very clean) and some very nice dithering control when you need it AND multiband compression. I haven't reached for my L2 since I installed Ozone 3. Try the fully functional demo from Izotope.

Life's to short for

WUP, so I am never one to recommend Waves products. I have Waves' Platinum Bundle so I have done the comparisons.
I also do not work for Izotope and it took some time to sell me on their product.
I am now sold on Izotope and purchased their 64bit bundle which is a heck of deal for what you all that you get.

lordmiguel · 10th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playback

Yeah I just checked that out it is cool.
I would love to get the STC-8 from Cranesong instead I think I will buy one tomarrow.
Thanks!!

I think its great for tracking vox too!

axtrak · 10th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playback

This is for all Slutz.
What is your favorite Master Buss limiter plugin or outboard.
To use for sending your mixes to the mastering engineer?

none, but if i have to use a limiter it´s UA´s Precision Limiter

lordmiguel · 10th March 2006

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Originally Posted by axtrak

none, but if i have to use a limiter it´s UA´s Precision Limiter

whats your secret with that, i can't get it to sound as good as the waves L2 or L3 plugs? then again i have that PCI controller chipset issue so i might as well be using waves.

axtrak · 10th March 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordmiguel

whats your secret with that, i can't get it to sound as good as the waves L2 or L3 plugs? then again i have that PCI controller chipset issue so i might as well be using waves.

I dont have the l2 or l3, but i like it alot more on the masterbus than the l1, it seems to do less damage to me

ShamansDream · 10th March 2006

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Originally Posted by axtrak

I dont have the l2 or l3, but i like it alot more on the masterbus than the l1, it seems to do less damage to me

L1 is pretty weak for overall limiting. It works much better on solo unprocessed instruments.

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Playback Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 175 Thread Starter	I meant Compressor/limiter master buss comp like an L2.

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ShamansDream Gear addict Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 392	Limiting is a mastering function, not something you want on the master bus in a mix. A mix should remain full of dynamics with headroom available for mastering. You may want to limit or compress certain tracks for effect. I find L1 a great source limiter before effects. This introduces fewer artifacts. Compression too is used on individual tracks for effect mostly to play with the feel of an instrument. If all you are trying to do is 'limit' those few transients to get more headroom, you might compress the individual tracks GENTLY If you're not trying to cram all your dynamics into the top 1db of your work in a mastering session, many limiters will give you great results. I have Maxim from Digidesign but that is a bear to get right. I also use Izotope Ozone 3 which has some great mastering capabilities. Ozone 3 is a very powerful plugin for the money including a very good limiter (still not as powerful L2 but very clean) and some very nice dithering control when you need it AND multiband compression. I haven't reached for my L2 since I installed Ozone 3. Try the fully functional demo from Izotope. Life's to short for WUP, so I am never one to recommend Waves products. I have Waves' Platinum Bundle so I have done the comparisons. I also do not work for Izotope and it took some time to sell me on their product. I am now sold on Izotope and purchased their 64bit bundle which is a heck of deal for what you all that you get.