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Old 24th June 2011   #1
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PT9.0.3 corrupt audio files

Hi,

I just had an scary experience on an mobile recording. I'm just
recording an orchestra for an production.

I'm recording about 10 tracks. When I have the PT project open everything
is recorded and playable.

Yesterday I closed the project and reloaded it and some files are missing. They
are still in the audio folder but have a different icon and cant be played in the finder,
and also quicktime don't play them.

It seems that it happened while saving or closing the project.

What I did today was:

before closing the project I looked in the audio files folder and found again some
wav's with a different icon. I then exported the still playing file within PT from the
regions box. This time the exported file is fine and safe. After closing the project and opening
again, as expected PT is missing these audio files...

Thank god PT could record different tracks with same input. So I duplicated all
tracks and record double, just to minimise loosing takes ...

Any ideas ?

And any ideas how I could try to repair the WAVs ? File size is still 48,6MB like the
other takes. Tried to import into Logic, but it has only fullscale noise on it...

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Just installed this on a Windows 7 64 bit laptop for mobile work as well.
Are you MAC or 32 bit? I know MACs can have problems with some files
being corrupted at times. That's more rare in PCs. Not to start debates
on MAC/PC. It would be good to see if that plays a role in your problem
to try to isolate it. I've not recorded in it yet, so I will be following this.
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http://www.railjonrogut.com/downloads/WavFixer.dmg.zip

This will fix the WAV files which have lost their FMT chunk.

You may select multiple files and need to tell the program the sample rate and resolution of the files.

It will create a copy of the bad file and then repair the copy - it will not allow the source and destination folders to be the same.

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Hi,

I just had an scary experience on an mobile recording. I'm just
recording an orchestra for an production.

I'm recording about 10 tracks. When I have the PT project open everything
is recorded and playable.

Yesterday I closed the project and reloaded it and some files are missing. They
are still in the audio folder but have a different icon and cant be played in the finder,
and also quicktime don't play them.

It seems that it happened while saving or closing the project.

What I did today was:

before closing the project I looked in the audio files folder and found again some
wav's with a different icon. I then exported the still playing file within PT from the
regions box. This time the exported file is fine and safe. After closing the project and opening
again, as expected PT is missing these audio files...

Thank god PT could record different tracks with same input. So I duplicated all
tracks and record double, just to minimise loosing takes ...

Any ideas ?

And any ideas how I could try to repair the WAVs ? File size is still 48,6MB like the
other takes. Tried to import into Logic, but it has only fullscale noise on it...

wolfgang
I had tons of scary experiences with Avid PT9 (the scariest was when I realised I might never be able to logon to my system again), but when I stopped using this software all those experiences were suddenly gone.

My recommendation is to build your platform around a different DAW software, this software is NOT at the quality level of a pro recording context, maybe 9.1 would be OK, don't know, all I know is that the early 9 versions of this software were a disaster: You need to have bla-bla, but you can't have that if you have bla-bla. And if you're running this on Windows 7 it can't work really bla bla, so you need Mac Pro bla bla, what MIDI interface are you using, no that won't work because bla bla. Arghhhhhhhhhhhh!
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http://www.railjonrogut.com/downloads/WavFixer.dmg.zip

This will fix the WAV files which have lost their FMT chunk.

You may select multiple files and need to tell the program the sample rate and resolution of the files.

It will create a copy of the bad file and then repair the copy - it will not allow the source and destination folders to be the same.

Rail
Hi Rail,

thanks, I have the last orch. session day today and I hope to be safe with my dupl. record tracks. Will try the program tomorow and hope it will rescue the file.

wolfgang
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I had tons of scary experiences with Avid PT9 (the scariest was when I realised I might never be able to logon to my system again), but when I stopped using this software all those experiences were suddenly gone.

My recommendation is to build your platform around a different DAW software, this software is NOT at the quality level of a pro recording context, maybe 9.1 would be OK, don't know, all I know is that the early 9 versions of this software were a disaster: You need to have bla-bla, but you can't have that if you have bla-bla. And if you're running this on Windows 7 it can't work really bla bla, so you need Mac Pro bla bla, what MIDI interface are you using, no that won't work because bla bla. Arghhhhhhhhhhhh!
thanks rainbowstorm,

that was my first reaction when I shockingly found the disaster......
Crappy stoneage software, I told it since years ;-) ..... Never had such thing with
DP or Logic. But clients demand PT all the time, especialy the producer of that recent
project. So we are serving clients not educating them ;-)

However I think that there must be a solution to it. And I must say I recorded beginning
of this year two album production in PT and never had that, worked great so far. This
was with the early 9.0 version. I just updated to 9.0.3 this week for the recent production.

Maybe it's the combination of 9.0.3 and something else on the OSX .....

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Just a follow up for the ones having the same problem...

The program from Rail worked perfect. Thanks again...

Still haven't found why and PT did it again on all 4 session days, with
new PT sessions each day. Always with files on track 1 labled "schoeps_l" (the
main stereos) but think that's pure chance I guess.

cheers,

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Rail, you just saved my life. I lost an entire song's worth of lead vocals to the same error today. That program fixed it, thank you!
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You're welcome.

If possible, please post to this thread on the DUC and list your system details and any info on what you were doing when this happened:

corrupt audio files PT 8.0.3 - Avid Audio Forums

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One more try. Is anyone having this problem on a PC (Windows 7)?
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One more try. Is anyone having this problem on a PC (Windows 7)?
I have seen no reports of this exact issue on Windows

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AIF?

I realize this topic is slightly old, but does any one know if this happens with .aif's?
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I realize this topic is slightly old, but does any one know if this happens with .aif's?
There have been no reports with AIFF files.

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Rail (or anyone else)... this problem has cropped up this week on my system. I've literally done thousands of sessions without issues. Nothing on my setup has changed... but now every session I open (old or new) is sprouting this file corruption. Over a dozen bands this week had the "Where's my lead gtr?" freakout. Not cool.

Does anyone know what might be causing it? Or how to fix it? I've done the usual (rep permissions, reinstall, trash databases/prefs, new drive, etc).
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Rail (or anyone else)... this problem has cropped up this week on my system. I've literally done thousands of sessions without issues. Nothing on my setup has changed... but now every session I open (old or new) is sprouting this file corruption. Over a dozen bands this week had the "Where's my lead gtr?" freakout. Not cool.

Does anyone know what might be causing it? Or how to fix it? I've done the usual (rep permissions, reinstall, trash databases/prefs, new drive, etc).
What PT version? I saw it a few times on early PT9 - have been running 9.0.6 for a while and haven't seen it since.
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Rail (or anyone else)... this problem has cropped up this week on my system. I've literally done thousands of sessions without issues. Nothing on my setup has changed... but now every session I open (old or new) is sprouting this file corruption. Over a dozen bands this week had the "Where's my lead gtr?" freakout. Not cool.

Does anyone know what might be causing it? Or how to fix it? I've done the usual (rep permissions, reinstall, trash databases/prefs, new drive, etc).
What OS are you running? Easiest fix is to upgrade to PT10

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