7th August 2012
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#1471 | | Gear interested
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: NY
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Originally Posted by deft_bonz  Sounds coool 
They still have 100 billion $ to spend. I vote for buying Pro Tools and let it look like Logic 7 *muahaha*  | Sad but I think the company only made like $100,000 last year. Apple probably next to nothing to acquire it.
Sorry on the dates, May it is.
I'm not in Logic as much as before Studio One 2 Has my attention at the moment. Very easy to move around, click here drag, drop here and you're making music. But I still have faith in Apple....
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7th August 2012
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#1472 | | Lives for gear
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What do you think folks, what will be the price of Logic X? Something similar like the current one?
My guess is that it will be something similar like Final Cut X which is currently 240€.
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7th August 2012
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#1473 | | Lives for gear
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Don't know why they would bump up the price unless there was some breakthrough in the soft.
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7th August 2012
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#1474 | | Lives for gear
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It may be a free update for existing owners through the App Store. Or it will be a new download/purchase. (The Mac App Store does not currently allow upgrade pricing.) But there's nothing to suggest that Apple intends to raise the price of any of it's apps: once in the MAS prices for all Apple's software has been reduced, sometimes dramatically, and stayed at the low price.
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7th August 2012
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#1475 | | Lives for gear
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Apple never does free upgrades for clients. Even going back to iLife before the Mac App Store. And judging from Logic Pro 9 in the store the current users won't get discount prices. If you are a Logic Pro 8 user you get the same price as the new user. My feeling is they're going to really change a lot of thing in X and keep it at the same price. We'll see when it comes out...
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7th August 2012
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#1476 | | Guest |
There will be no update pricing. The current full price of $199 is lower than the old update price. Apple has explained this. $199 is what Logic X will be set at. The question is what are the extras (sample sets, mainstage, etc.) going to cost.
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7th August 2012
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#1477 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by MediaMix $199 is what Logic X will be set at. | Although I believe that I never read any press release from Apple stating that. In fact Apple has a strict policy of not discussing future releases. Can you post that link?
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7th August 2012
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#1478 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by phas3d Although I believe that I never read any press release from Apple stating that. In fact Apple has a strict policy of not discussing future releases. Can you post that link? | They stated the new price of Logic will now be $199. When was the last time Apple ever raised software prices?....Never.
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7th August 2012
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#1479 | | Lives for gear
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They stated for Logic 9. There is no info from Apple on release date, features or prices of Logic X. How do you know it won't be $149?
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7th August 2012
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#1480 | | u don't wanna know
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Yes maybe less, but then probably here and there 49$ for some extras. Plus an Logic Ultimate version with WUP for only 4999.-$
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7th August 2012
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#1481 | | Guest | Quote:
Originally Posted by phas3d They stated for Logic 9. There is no info from Apple on release date, features or prices of Logic X. How do you know it won't be $149? | Point proven. Apple does not raise software prices. Maybe they will lower it again.
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7th August 2012
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#1482 | | Lives for gear
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Logic pro at $199 is too cool.
If your running 10.6.6 or over..........and don't have to wup your-self and other 3rd parties.
And other daw (eg, Pt).
Next step in Logic 10 "IS" going to be probes into the brain stem and all you gotta do is think it.............which will be the $4999.00, plus wups,
plus multi user sterile probes.
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7th August 2012
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#1483 | | Lives for gear
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Logic X at $200 will probably put Avid, MOTU, & Steinberg out of business. Competition is needed. The best move for all of us might be to move to one of these other daws, and give our money to companies commited to pro audio. What do you guys think?
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7th August 2012
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#1484 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Munich, Germany
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Stripped down "Logic X Pro" for $149, Instruments ranging from $29 to $99 and a Box Edition "Logic X Studio" for $499 is my best guess.
And I'd love it. I don't use a single virtual instrument anymore. A stripped down Logic X taking similar steps as Final Cut X did, with resource efficient editing and good sounding PlugIns, would be absolutely perfect for me.
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7th August 2012
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#1485 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jul 2004 Location: UK
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Originally Posted by dergit Stripped down "Logic X Pro" for $149, Instruments ranging from $29 to $99 and a Box Edition "Logic X Studio" for $499 is my best guess.
And I'd love it. I don't use a single virtual instrument anymore. A stripped down Logic X taking similar steps as Final Cut X did, with resource efficient editing and good sounding PlugIns, would be absolutely perfect for me. | I'm not sure it makes sense that the app price would drop if the instruments were sold separately.
Splitting the instruments from the app would involve extra work, therefore increasing the costs.
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7th August 2012
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#1486 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by kelvyn Melodyne integration and I'll be happy. | yes! or their own version of it, surely they can pull something even more integrated off by them self, it´s probably gonna happen and i think it will work like flex-time, but for pitch..name will be flexy-pitch
Oh, one thing I would really like is spectrogram visualization of audio regions.
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7th August 2012
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#1487 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2007 Location: UK
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And Cuabase-esq plug in organisation so you're not scrolling down zillions of plugs.
Is it out yet? I'll check back tomorrow
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7th August 2012
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#1488 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden
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Originally Posted by claesbjo yes! or their own version of it, surely they can pull something even more integrated off by them self, it´s probably gonna happen and i think it will work like flex-time, but for pitch..name will be flexy-pitch | This perhaps is intended for Logic? POLYPHONIC NOTE DETECTION - Patent application | |
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7th August 2012
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#1489 | | Gear addict
Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Mexico City
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Originally Posted by Mini-Dan |  | |
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7th August 2012
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#1490 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Mini-Dan | very plausible
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8th August 2012
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#1491 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by dergit Stripped down "Logic X Pro" for $149, Instruments ranging from $29 to $99 and a Box Edition "Logic X Studio" for $499 is my best guess. | Highly doubtful. Apple is download only, friend. No more boxes.
And they have not shown any inclination or reason to unbundle anything from Logic to drop the price any more... or to do anything to more than double the current price.
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8th August 2012
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#1492 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Munich, Germany
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Mmmh... I don't know. But you may have a point seeing how downloading 4+ GB is the only way of updating your Mac OS these days.
I'm not sure about them not showing any inclination to unbundle stuff... not with Logic particularly, yes - but they've never been known to talk about upcoming software too much. The trend is very visible in Final Cut X, though!
And I for one use Logic almost exclusively for recording and mixing so saving money and disk space on VIs would make it all the more attractive to me. I'm sure I'm not alone?
On another note... this may be a noob-question but how is the Mac App Store distribution going to work with multi-computer licenses? Surely, I won't have to buy Logic individually for my MacBook, Mac Pro etc... most likely the license is going to be linked to my Apple ID? What if my Mac Pro at work isn't on the same Apple ID as my MacBook, though? I know quite a few people who like to take projects home to edit stuff in a different environment from time to time....
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8th August 2012
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#1493 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia.
Posts: 607
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Originally Posted by dergit
On another note... this may be a noob-question but how is the Mac App Store distribution going to work with multi-computer licenses? Surely, I won't have to buy Logic individually for my MacBook, Mac Pro etc... most likely the license is going to be linked to my Apple ID? What if my Mac Pro at work isn't on the same Apple ID as my MacBook, though? I know quite a few people who like to take projects home to edit stuff in a different environment from time to time....
| It all seems to be connected to the user and their devices. ie If you have an Apple account (Apple ID) associated with a device, then you can use the software on it, as you've suggested. I not sure how the multi/volume licensing works.
I have two Apple IDs, but they somehow know about each other, so it's not really a problem. You can have multiple apple IDs associated with a device AFAIK.
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8th August 2012
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#1495 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2011
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Originally Posted by dergit The trend is very visible in Final Cut X, though! | They actually bundles in parts of apps like Motion and Color. Quote:
Originally Posted by dergit I for one use Logic almost exclusively for recording and mixing so saving money and disk space on VIs would make it all the more attractive to me. I'm sure I'm not alone? | So delete the uwanted VIs.
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8th August 2012
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#1496 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2010 Location: Australia
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Originally Posted by Hint Splitting the instruments from the app would involve extra work, therefore increasing the costs. | It would not involve extra work with a complete rewrite, which is what we know is happening. I believe all the plug-ins will be new or redesigned from the ground up. I personally much prefer an "a la carte" DAW with my own favorite plug-iIns and VSTs, none of which are apple products........or maybe they may have a cool granular synth that could peek my interests?
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8th August 2012
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#1497 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2004 Location: Somewhere between France and Absurdistan
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Originally Posted by skira So delete the uwanted VIs. | You can't. Logic's instruments are embedded in the software itself, they're not in AU or VST ( or other ) formats.
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8th August 2012
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#1498 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by drumdrumdrumdrum a complete rewrite, which is what we know is happening. ? | Are you thinking of this ad?
The stuff mentioned in that ad, like eg this....
"Designing visual interfaces for Music Applications on OS X and iOS
Creating new interfaces (from "scratch") and working with existing Design Guidelines
Guiding the entire VI design development process (from first draft to final implementation) in cooperation with the Development team"
... may not be about Logic, but about some new plugins - or about a completely different app, like an ear training app, or a remote control for Logic - or something else.
But if you are referring to something else than this ad, I wonder who "we" are, and also about what it is that you know is happening - and how you know it. :-)
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Apple - please bring back the focus on *creating* music in Logic! The need for great songs is much bigger than the need for great sounds!
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8th August 2012
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#1499 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2005
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Originally Posted by Mini-Dan | The key part to me is "For example, this method allows detection of each note in a strummed guitar chord to provide feedback on the tuning of each string in a strummed chord or allows detection and feedback of the timing and pitch errors for guitar chords played along with a reference track."
This is already in use for Garageband Lessons. That's not to say that it doesn't have broader applications or uses.
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9th August 2012
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#1500 | | Lives for gear
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