29th February 2012
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#841 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jul 2004 Location: UK
Posts: 473
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Originally Posted by valis As for Mainstage 2.2.1 update only avail via app store purchase, maybe the 2.2.1 update just hasn't been pushed anywhere else yet and it will follow via download/software update today...? | The 2.2.0 update was App Store only. People with boxed copies of Logic Studio can only get Mainstage up to 2.1.3 unless they pay. That's what they're complaining about.
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29th February 2012
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#842 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Northwest USA
Posts: 3,962
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Ah sorry I wasn't thinking when I woke up this am. Certainly that's the last version my boxed copy has...you're right. And I remember the buzz when the store version came out...but $30 is only a pain to me for iOS apps so I'd forgotten about it (I find it funny how I'll balk at a $15 mobile/tablet purchase that may even get a lot of use, but not blink about a $30 desktop purchase for a minor utility or tool of which I own many as proof).
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3rd March 2012
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#843 | | Gear interested
Joined: Mar 2012
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I saw this on Apple's web site and tout I should post it.
Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM
This discussion is to inform current Logic users on the upcoming new features in Logic Pro X. First off the software will not be officially released to the public until the new OSX Mountain Lion hits the market. Second the software will be none of what you expect it to be and everything you didn't expect and never knew you wanted in a D.A.W. Let's start with the basics. The GUI will see a drastic overhaul making Logic's workflow more modern and efficient. I can't go in to specific details about the design features but you will love the new upgrades. The first thing you will notice in the edit view is the new media browser, which has touch gesture, capabilities built in so now you can scroll through various screens of content by swiping left to right and up and down to select content. The mixer is designed to WOW! it has a shock factor that will blow your mind. First off it makes use of sonic modeling, yes that's right just as reason modeled their mixer after the SSL, Logic has modeled their mixer after the__________? I won't spoil it for you but OMG! does that thing sound and look amazing. It has a built in EQ & Dynamics section in every audio channel, Midi & Instruments tracks can be routed to audio channels to utilize the EQ & Dynamics. The master section is AWESOME as well. New Instruments & Effects finally and if the other features did not catch your attention these will. Piano's sound unbelievably realistic, the design team spared no expense in making IMO, the best sounding virtual pianos thus far they take advantage of a new technology called Hyper-Realism it captures every subtle nuance of the Acoustic Piano faithfully. They also have physical models of Pianos that are breathtaking as well they don't require as much CPU as the large boutique sample piano's but nonetheless are right on par with them. The electric pianos sound incredible as well Hyper-Realism, and Physical model technology. Composers will love the orchestral libraries which are moderately extensive instrument, articulation and expression wise but the sound is right up there with VSL and I should mention that the notation component to logic is far more professional and has seen a upgrade as well. Logic now has only two main synths that are capable of producing just about any kind of sound you can possibly imagine, again I can't get into specific details but they are packed full of quality presets and crazy tweak parameters. DRUMS & DRUMS of DRUMS the percussion section will make you **** all over yourself first off there are two components to the percussion section a GUI that represents a physical drum kit with independent tracks for each drum by default and second is a groove machine that is beyond sick. The Physical drum kits have various different layers of drum sounds and articulations which provide a very realistic feel to sequenced drums so much so unless you knew other wise you would have never suspected they came from Virtual Instrument. The groove box at first glance has 16 pads which you can drag and drop samples directly from the browser and edit them from the groove box interface each pad has standalone pitch and time stretch properties and much more. The alternate view is of a step sequencer that you can sequence using the step method by point and click. The EFX have seen a major upgrade as well some EFX plugins you will notice right away and some will be your new favorites. I think this new D.A.W. wins on features alone. Logic Pro X is the new revolution in D.A.W. technology. Of course there are lots and lots of new and interesting features I didn't get to mention but this definitely gives you an idea of some of the coolest stuff going in to the new Logic Pro X. What are your opinons on some of the changes listed?
Logic Studio, Mac OS X (10.7.1)
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3rd March 2012
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#844 | | Gear interested
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3
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I saw this on Apple's Website and thought I should post here.
Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM
This discussion is to inform current Logic users on the upcoming new features in Logic Pro X. First off the software will not be officially released to the public until the new OSX Mountain Lion hits the market. Second the software will be none of what you expect it to be and everything you didn't expect and never knew you wanted in a D.A.W. Let's start with the basics. The GUI will see a drastic overhaul making Logic's workflow more modern and efficient. I can't go in to specific details about the design features but you will love the new upgrades. The first thing you will notice in the edit view is the new media browser, which has touch gesture, capabilities built in so now you can scroll through various screens of content by swiping left to right and up and down to select content. The mixer is designed to WOW! it has a shock factor that will blow your mind. First off it makes use of sonic modeling, yes that's right just as reason modeled their mixer after the SSL, Logic has modeled their mixer after the__________? I won't spoil it for you but OMG! does that thing sound and look amazing. It has a built in EQ & Dynamics section in every audio channel, Midi & Instruments tracks can be routed to audio channels to utilize the EQ & Dynamics. The master section is AWESOME as well. New Instruments & Effects finally and if the other features did not catch your attention these will. Piano's sound unbelievably realistic, the design team spared no expense in making IMO, the best sounding virtual pianos thus far they take advantage of a new technology called Hyper-Realism it captures every subtle nuance of the Acoustic Piano faithfully. They also have physical models of Pianos that are breathtaking as well they don't require as much CPU as the large boutique sample piano's but nonetheless are right on par with them. The electric pianos sound incredible as well Hyper-Realism, and Physical model technology. Composers will love the orchestral libraries which are moderately extensive instrument, articulation and expression wise but the sound is right up there with VSL and I should mention that the notation component to logic is far more professional and has seen a upgrade as well. Logic now has only two main synths that are capable of producing just about any kind of sound you can possibly imagine, again I can't get into specific details but they are packed full of quality presets and crazy tweak parameters. DRUMS & DRUMS of DRUMS the percussion section will make you **** all over yourself first off there are two components to the percussion section a GUI that represents a physical drum kit with independent tracks for each drum by default and second is a groove machine that is beyond sick. The Physical drum kits have various different layers of drum sounds and articulations which provide a very realistic feel to sequenced drums so much so unless you knew other wise you would have never suspected they came from Virtual Instrument. The groove box at first glance has 16 pads which you can drag and drop samples directly from the browser and edit them from the groove box interface each pad has standalone pitch and time stretch properties and much more. The alternate view is of a step sequencer that you can sequence using the step method by point and click. The EFX have seen a major upgrade as well some EFX plugins you will notice right away and some will be your new favorites. I think this new D.A.W. wins on features alone. Logic Pro X is the new revolution in D.A.W. technology. Of course there are lots and lots of new and interesting features I didn't get to mention but this definitely gives you an idea of some of the coolest stuff going in to the new Logic Pro X. What are your opinons on some of the changes listed?
Logic Studio, Mac OS X (10.7.1)
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3rd March 2012
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#845 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,186
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That sounds like a fanboy written rumour.
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3rd March 2012
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#846 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 439
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Any link ? I can't find it…
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3rd March 2012
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#847 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2010 Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 141
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Some of the stuff in the post sounds about right, the post itself - I call BS - when have apple *ever* made such a post?
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3rd March 2012
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#848 | | Gear interested
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3
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I will try to find it.
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3rd March 2012
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#850 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2009 Location: Germany
Posts: 494
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I saw this on Apple's Website and thought I should post here.
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3rd March 2012
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#851 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Recording Studio Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,764
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We're not that gulible are we now?
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3rd March 2012
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#852 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2011 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia
Posts: 467
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Originally Posted by b-pole the user has only 3 threads...  | We all know what Apple do with people who spreading their secrets... Quote:
Originally Posted by AcoosticZoo We're not that gulible are we now? | Well... to be honest he wrote nothing extraordinary.
Except of "SSL" and "Hyper-Realism" maybe.
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3rd March 2012
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#853 | | Gear interested
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 16
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Let me guess...Logic will finally have a "Magic" button installed on every channel now too???
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3rd March 2012
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#854 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2010 Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 141
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Originally Posted by Michael E Well... to be honest he wrote nothing extraordinary.
Except of "SSL" and "Hyper-Realism" maybe. | Rumours have been floating around for along time that Logic X would add analog console modelling kind of like propellerhead's record.
An SSL model would be the obvious choice if only a single console was modelled, however if they are going down that route, be good to see a few others as well including some smaller more characterful tube console perhaps - if a decent job of it is done.
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3rd March 2012
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#855 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 229
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Maybe Apple will release Logic X simultaneously for OSX and iOS.
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3rd March 2012
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#856 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Birmingham/UK
Posts: 1,515
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As long as you can switch it off ! Analog modelling desk colour is not always needed
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3rd March 2012
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#857 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,682
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Originally Posted by Huslineveryday I saw this on Apple's Website and thought I should post here. | Sure you didn't write it? This is your 1st post on GS.
It reads like bad fanfic ... 'cause it is.
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3rd March 2012
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#858 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Recording Studio Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,764
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I like the current interface with logic 9. However, I'd like to be able to highlight a selection of plugins on the mixer/arrange window and bypass them all together (instead of having to individually clicking bypass).
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3rd March 2012
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#859 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,071
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Originally Posted by Huslineveryday I saw this on Apple's Website and thought I should post here.
Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM
This discussion is to inform current Logic users on the upcoming new features in Logic Pro X. First off the software will not be officially released to the public until the new OSX Mountain Lion hits the market. Second the software will be none of what you expect it to be and everything you didn't expect and never knew you wanted in a D.A.W. Let's start with the basics. The GUI will see a drastic overhaul making Logic's workflow more modern and efficient. I can't go in to specific details about the design features but you will love the new upgrades. The first thing you will notice in the edit view is the new media browser, which has touch gesture, capabilities built in so now you can scroll through various screens of content by swiping left to right and up and down to select content. The mixer is designed to WOW! it has a shock factor that will blow your mind. First off it makes use of sonic modeling, yes that's right just as reason modeled their mixer after the SSL, Logic has modeled their mixer after the__________? I won't spoil it for you but OMG! does that thing sound and look amazing. It has a built in EQ & Dynamics section in every audio channel, Midi & Instruments tracks can be routed to audio channels to utilize the EQ & Dynamics. The master section is AWESOME as well. New Instruments & Effects finally and if the other features did not catch your attention these will. Piano's sound unbelievably realistic, the design team spared no expense in making IMO, the best sounding virtual pianos thus far they take advantage of a new technology called Hyper-Realism it captures every subtle nuance of the Acoustic Piano faithfully. They also have physical models of Pianos that are breathtaking as well they don't require as much CPU as the large boutique sample piano's but nonetheless are right on par with them. The electric pianos sound incredible as well Hyper-Realism, and Physical model technology. Composers will love the orchestral libraries which are moderately extensive instrument, articulation and expression wise but the sound is right up there with VSL and I should mention that the notation component to logic is far more professional and has seen a upgrade as well. Logic now has only two main synths that are capable of producing just about any kind of sound you can possibly imagine, again I can't get into specific details but they are packed full of quality presets and crazy tweak parameters. DRUMS & DRUMS of DRUMS the percussion section will make you **** all over yourself first off there are two components to the percussion section a GUI that represents a physical drum kit with independent tracks for each drum by default and second is a groove machine that is beyond sick. The Physical drum kits have various different layers of drum sounds and articulations which provide a very realistic feel to sequenced drums so much so unless you knew other wise you would have never suspected they came from Virtual Instrument. The groove box at first glance has 16 pads which you can drag and drop samples directly from the browser and edit them from the groove box interface each pad has standalone pitch and time stretch properties and much more. The alternate view is of a step sequencer that you can sequence using the step method by point and click. The EFX have seen a major upgrade as well some EFX plugins you will notice right away and some will be your new favorites. I think this new D.A.W. wins on features alone. Logic Pro X is the new revolution in D.A.W. technology. Of course there are lots and lots of new and interesting features I didn't get to mention but this definitely gives you an idea of some of the coolest stuff going in to the new Logic Pro X. What are your opinons on some of the changes listed?
Logic Studio, Mac OS X (10.7.1) | What a bullsh*t post, asking for opinions in this stage is totally nonsense, as if it is of any use or influence. Besides that, looks like a fantasy post anyway.
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3rd March 2012
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#860 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2004 Location: london
Posts: 1,160
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What strikes me as very odd is the project management up at Apple HQ...
Logic has some very nice features that has been part of the app for quite a while but weirdly never expanded on....
Ultrabeat is a fantastic drum synthesiser. Why hasn't it been upgraded with an internal mixer, plugins and groove functions?? It's been there for years now....
(The fxpansion boys must've gone, damn...ok well if they won't do something about this we might as well make some dollars here.....)
Strip silence.... you gotta be ****ing kidding me....... Give me zoom and an region analyse function....and...it's...as... good...as....beat detective!
Yes I know we have flex time slicer now but this thing has been here for bloody years without emagic or apple papple people re-touching it....Why??
Pro tools will always win hands down over LP as long as Apple insist on hatting between new features and functions catering for whatever target consumer audience the latest market research poll implies they should cater for........
I'm sorry but I could not give a monkeys about LPX (nerd pun) unless it's the version that once and for all capitalises on the strengths of this app and resolves the system overload issues etc..............
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4th March 2012
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#861 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Northern Calif.
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The backlash against FCPX - which included being mocked on national TV by Conan O'Brien's team - is the kind of attention Apple is very sensitive to. They will not want that to happen again. Apple enjoys a huge amount of good will from the music business - lots of artists use Macs. They don't want to burn that bridge.
I have no info, but here's my positive spin on what we might see.
Apple develops core technologies that make apps that use them better. For example, upgrading an app to use Grand Central Dispatch can make it use multiple cores much more efficiently, leading to more tracks and plugins without stalling. There are several such technologies that could be used in Logic.
There may be wonderful new instruments and effects, and these may be separate App Store purchases. If one isn't interesting to you, you can skip it. I think all the current ones will remain part of the product.
Tighter integration between MainStage and Logic. I'd like to record a MIDI track per instrument in Mainstage, push a button, and flip from the live set to a multitrack recording project in Logic.
If not a full iPad version, a sophisticated iPad remote control app. One that wirelessly links multiple iPads to your Mac for any kind of real time touch control you could want.
'iPad Track' feature that lets you wirelessly stream audio from a musical iPad app directly to a Logic track, and also route Logic audio to an 'iPad bus' to do the reverse. I think it's possible now, but it's not easy to set up.
Of course, it's easy to dream stuff up, and damn hard work to implement and test it.
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4th March 2012
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#862 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2005 Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 1,384
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Originally Posted by j-uk I'm sorry but I could not give a monkeys... unless it's the version that once and for all capitalises on the strengths of this app and resolves the system overload issues etc.............. | |
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4th March 2012
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#863 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Belgica
Posts: 1,785
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Originally Posted by Biolumin3sc3nt Let me guess...Logic will finally have a "Magic" button installed on every channel now too??? | It's Apple - there will be no 'Magic' button. However, there will be a 'just absolutely gorgeous' button. |
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4th March 2012
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#864 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2010 Location: Australia
Posts: 886
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The only button on LogicX that I give a monkeys about is the one on the app store that says '"install"!
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4th March 2012
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#865 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,508
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I have no inside knowledge but I think people will be pretty happy with Logic X if it's true that they have done a complete re-write ditching all the old buggy Emagic code. Some bugs have been there since v6. When they went from 7 to 8 it was a huge leap. I think we will see another big leap but it will probably take as long as the update from 7 to 8 took.
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4th March 2012
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#866 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 852
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Originally Posted by work2do I have no inside knowledge but I think people will be pretty happy with Logic X if it's true that they have done a complete re-write ditching all the old buggy Emagic code. Some bugs have been there since v6. When they went from 7 to 8 it was a huge leap. I think we will see another big leap but it will probably take as long as the update from 7 to 8 took. | Sounds pretty realistic..it was three years between 7 and 8 and this summer it has been three years since logic 9 (my goodness time flies!)
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4th March 2012
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#867 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 56
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Patience peepole!
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4th March 2012
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#868 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2005 Location: Lost Angeles |
I hope the logic comes with 20 more shades of red for track color coding |
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4th March 2012
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#869 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Birmingham/UK
Posts: 1,515
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Originally Posted by Nu-tra I hope the logic comes with 20 more shades of red for track color coding  | Lol
Very important !!!
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4th March 2012
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#870 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Jordan
Posts: 943
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Originally Posted by Nu-tra I hope the logic comes with 20 more shades of red for track color coding  | Hahaha! Best post yet |
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