Originally Posted by Bill@WelcomeHome
FOH magazine just did a complimentary piece about it. Tesla is using it on the road. Kenny Rogers is using it. Michal LeGrand.
FOH found it interesting as a concept, but did not like it that much. Michael LeGrand used it ONCE ... about a year ago .... while sub-mixing through a 56 channel Midas H3000 analog console to get 56 down to 16. Whoopee.
I know for a fact that Kenny Rodgers uses Avid Venue D-Show systems for both FOH and monitors EXCLUSIVELY. I'm familiar with the story. Kenny's roadie attempts to build custom SAC racks but has sold NONE (or very few) that I am aware of.
The front end is where you can win or lose in terms of sound. The 'standard' setup seems to be mostly Behringer ADA-8000s tied to an RME RayDAT card. I'm okay with the RayDAT, but I sure would prefer a better preamp. I can imagine three ATI 8mx2s with Auroras or Myteks or something. But that ups the cost significantly. Using the behringers, building the system costs about what a Mackie 32*8 cost, back when it first came out.
Yes, perhaps a SAC rack built out of the cheap components you mentioned may compete with a Mackie system, but that is EONS away of the claims of replacing Midas, Soundcraft or Yamaha digital offerings for the concert stage.
By the time you add the high end pre-amps you suggest, and a serious control surface, the cost escalates into the range of the A&H iLive or Yamaha MC7L or even the PM5D, which include the redundant back up systems necessary for concert hall work. And the pre amps you mentioned are not even recallable.
But here's the caveat. SAC does not support a decent control surface with more than 8 faders, and the $200 Behringer is the popular solution. Many users have been burned by this.
SAC may be suitable for a church, which is the majority of it's user base, or perhaps small rental system for seminars, etc. and perhaps even a small combo playing in the local park.
SAW used to have a pretty impressive user base, but they all moved on, as you and I did, because the designer refused to add common everyday features needed by the masses. No seamless looping? Only six aux buses? Sub-masters and main outputs share the same faders? Come on. The same is going on with requests for SAC improvements.
The current target audience is the extreme low end of the live audio market, the speakers on sticks crowd. That's fine. If you visit the support forum, it is dominated by a few morons with no audio experience whatsoever, who do their best to discourage discussion of any improvements, insisting that their church system can handle baseball stadium level concerts mixing with a mouse and no plug-ins.
So sure, you can build something. Go ahead.