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Old 7th March 2011   #1
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Which DAW is best for ME

This is what I am doing:

Metal - Orchestrations, Choirs, Drums, Bass and Massive (Native-Instruments)

Classical/New Age/Flamenco - Orchestrations, Choirs, Massive
Electronic Music - Dubstep, Psy-trance, House

Artists that I would compare myself to:

Metal - Wintersun, Opeth
Classical - Andrew York, Nobuo Uematsu
Electronic Music - Skrillex, Noisia, Infected Mushroom

I have a macbook pro (Apple - MacBook Pro - Technical specifications of the 17-inch model.)

I know its a matter of taste, but what would some of your suggestions be for what im doing? Thank you very much!
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I don't use Reaper myself, because I got used to using other DAWs before Reaper was released, but I think that it's hard to fight the great pricing on that product.

I'd probably buy that and then investigate some further sound libraries (EastWest, vir2, etc.) with the money I had saved.
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DAW has less to do with style of music (despite stereotypes on here) and more to do with how yo like to work. Unfortunately, you won't really know without spending some time. So I'd demo a few and see what feels intuitive and what feels wonky. Over time, it may change -- it did for me.
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DAW has less to do with style of music (despite stereotypes on here) and more to do with how yo like to work. Unfortunately, you won't really know without spending some time. So I'd demo a few and see what feels intuitive and what feels wonky. Over time, it may change -- it did for me.
It's a shame you can't demo Logic though.
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Logic, Digital Performer, Cubase etc. - they're all capable.
Unfortunately Sonar is PC only...
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Sorry to ask but is anyone having issues with Nebula 3 on Windows 7 ? Like... that issue that... just doesn't works?!
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nebula pro 3 works fine with win7 x32/x64

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Sorry to ask but is anyone having issues with Nebula 3 on Windows 7 ? Like... that issue that... just doesn't works?!
This is absolutely untrue and absolutely not the place.

BTW, I can't believe no-one's suggested Pro Tools!
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Since you mentioned the electronica element to you music, I would recommend Ableton Live. Then you have a great tool for live performance as well....
I am a huge fan of the tools within Ableton...
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This is absolutely untrue and absolutely not the place.

BTW, I can't believe no-one's suggested Pro Tools!

It was true until i uninstalled and installed again. Now it works fine, but it's not loading inside Sony Soundforge.
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DAW makes absolutely zero difference in terms of style. It's merely work flow. So recommendations are just personal tastes.
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Since you mentioned the electronica element to you music, I would recommend Ableton Live. Then you have a great tool for live performance as well....
I am a huge fan of the tools within Ableton...
Totally agree. Give Ableton a try. That's LOTS of tutorials over YouTube and Vimeo.
Last but not least, download Reaper to feel the power. I'm about to start using both.
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I was just going to ask which one has the most tutorials.. Thanks
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DAW makes absolutely zero difference in terms of style. It's merely work flow. So recommendations are just personal tastes.
Exactly^ Live is good for sketching ideas, but I find it a poor environment for mixing. I use dp for that.
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I can see the point of Live for sketching, I guess. I've never used it for that. I personally don't like the idea of algorithms coming up with ideas for me. Loops within loops within loops within loops are cool and quick and randomizing is cool too, I guess. I just like to pull the ideas of of my own head before I go to my DAW and then take it from there. But I know a lot of people like to work that way.
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I personally don't like the idea of algorithms coming up with ideas for me. Loops within loops within loops within loops are cool and quick and randomizing is cool too, I guess. I just like to pull the ideas of of my own head before I go to my DAW and then take it from there. But I know a lot of people like to work that way.
I guess Live does indeed have the reputation of being loopy and algorithmic (you're referring to Live I think?). I must say I've been using it for a good while now and I've never made anything loop-based or randomized or algorithmically generated. I like it because it's simple, works well in the studio as well as live, and has a bunch of effects and instruments I like. Like you I work from my head and use the DAW simply to record and realize the ideas. I also really like to mix in Live, but I'm in the minority in that regard I think.

That said, given the kind of music the OP works on, I'd have to recommend Logic. As much as I like Live, I don't think I'd want to do a lot of orchestration in it, both because it doesn't host big sample libraries as well as Logic, and also because there's not sheet music facility built into it.

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Try them all if possible. .....they all do pretty much the same job.

Cubase user here though for more than 20 years in one form or another...know it inside out...does everything I want it to and more.


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Try them all if possible. .....they all do pretty much the same job.
LOL! Well then why waste your time trying them all, even if possible? I agree they all do essentially the same thing. DP does everything for me, like Cubase for you. I have Logic and it gives me a headache, but that's just because I'm not as familiar with it. I have PT and that's cool with no headaches. Why can't Logic be headache free? LOL. I've been using PT a fair amount. I have Live and Garage Band too.

It's been more convenient for a few different types of projects for me to get my feet wet with PT and Logic, (Live too) but I'd have been happy to never touch them.

I suggest get a DAW and stick with it. Learn it like the back of your hand so it's intuitive, regardless of what the program is. And realize the grass is always greener, but 99% of that is marketing bullshit and user brags.
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I suggest get a DAW and stick with it. Learn it like the back of your hand so it's intuitive, regardless of what the program is. And realize the grass is always greener, but 99% of that is marketing bullshit and user brags.
Absatively. Posalutely. The learning curve to expert is fairly involved so the idea of checking them all out means you'll just scratch the surface.
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Exactly^ Live is good for sketching ideas, but I find it a poor environment for mixing. I use dp for that.
True? I record and create a bunch of ideas in Ableton. (also lot of guitars)
But really don't know if it's good to mix them all. Some fellas suggested to create/sketch in Ableton in mix&master over Reaper or Logic, for example.
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